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Old Posted Nov 1, 2019, 3:35 AM
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Highrise fire at 1111 Beach, Sunset Plaza.


Fire extinguished at West End highrise on Vancouver's Beach Avenue

"Vancouver fire crews have extinguished an apartment fire that broke out at a West End highrise on Thursday evening.
Three fire crews attended to the blaze at Sunset Plaza, a 28-storey building located at 1111 Beach Avenue, at the corner of Beach and Thurlow and near the popular tourist destination Sunset Beach.
The fire broke out around 6 p.m. The building was quickly evacuated as firefighters rushed to the site and into the burning structure to reach the source of the fire, a 16th floor studio suite. There were no reported injuries. The cause is under investigation."



source: https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...le-blaze-at-beachfront-west-end-highrise
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2019, 12:05 PM
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I am currently in Kuala Lumpur and oh boy is this city a dream destination for those of us loving both architecture and really tall buildings. The iconic Petronas Towers are truly something to behold and I was surprised by how impressive they are in person. The observation deck up top is meh, but they look great no matter where you are looking. I have taken hundreds of photos of them, yet they always catch my eye when I see them...

For that reason, I cannot comprehend why other super tall skyscrapers are going up right next to them. First one is the 343-meter Four Seasons tower which is impressive on its own, but totally unfit as a neighbor. And they are building several more towers just as tall next to it! There is a bunch of brand new 200-250 meters tall towers nearby, but since they are 200 meters shorter than Petronas, they don't really take away from its dominance.

Outside of KLCC, the 445-meter tall The Exchange 106 is just about complete. It looks ridiculously tall as its neighbors (around ten 200+ skyscrapers!) are not yet really rising but will soon. I also love the LED lighting on the tower which is similar to some remarkable towers in China.

Not too far from The Exchange 106 is the new tallest building in making. The 118-storey and 666 meters tall Merdeka PNB 118 has its core currently at level 80 and it looks ridiculously tall from everywhere. It will be the new second icon for the city once completed in 2021 and it looks great so far.

Besides this, dozens of skyscrapers above 200 and even several above 300 meters under constructions, that it is mind-boggling. How are these mega projects able to find tenants to justify their construction? For example, The Exchange 106 has almost 5 million sqft of leasable space in that one building alone! It puzzles my mind how many office projects there are vs. what we have back in Canada.

I also have to mention transportation, as it is pretty amazing how Kuala Lumpur is able to have such a vast highway system and is also currently building many public transit lines. There will soon be 11 lines which are either called LRT or MRT, but it all looks heavy rapid transit to me. Their "LRT" is a heavier system than our SkyTrain from what I can tell.

Traffic jams don't also actually look that bad to me and it is interesting how a city can prioritize building for both modes of transportation rather than hating on cars like back home.

There are still problems, one being very poorly planned connections between intersecting lines that requires long walks in the scorching hot and humid weather. Another interesting problem is vandalism of commuter trains, where roughly one fifth of all windows on those trains are cracked from rock-flinging vandals along the railway. It is a very sad sight when trains themselves are very new.

Kuala Lumpur has been an interesting city to explore and I look forward to doing the same next in Singapore. Their buildings may not be as tall as in KL, but their city planning sounds super exciting to see!
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2019, 5:11 PM
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So glad you're enjoying KL Klazu! Don't forget the malls - Pavilion is especially impressive! And if you liked KL, Singapore will blow your mind.
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Kuala Lumpur is the only city in the country though that would house offices.

Canada has too many cities with offices, Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Halifax, Regina, Saskatoon etc. If you took all the offices across Canada and put them in one city it would be unreal.
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LRT has a completely different meaning in Asia. IIRC, Kuala Lumpur uses the same Bombardier automated LIMs that we do.

Not surprised by the lack of connectivity. Malaysia's like much of Latin America right now: giant megaprojects soaring above rampant corruption and poverty, none of it well-coordinated. Admire their spending power and development, but also note that they're the same people who came up with the Crooked Bridge and who bulldoze their ancient ruins for condos.

You'll like Singapore as a city. Clean, urban and forward-thinking (practically half the downtown core is one big PATH network)... though it often seems like they're building just for the hell of it. Also, don't bring any gum.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2019, 12:54 AM
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I am currently in Kuala Lumpur and oh boy is this city a dream destination for those of us loving both architecture and really tall buildings. The iconic Petronas Towers are truly something to behold and I was surprised by how impressive they are in person. The observation deck up top is meh, but they look great no matter where you are looking. I have taken hundreds of photos of them, yet they always catch my eye when I see them...

For that reason, I cannot comprehend why other super tall skyscrapers are going up right next to them. First one is the 343-meter Four Seasons tower which is impressive on its own, but totally unfit as a neighbor. And they are building several more towers just as tall next to it! There is a bunch of brand new 200-250 meters tall towers nearby, but since they are 200 meters shorter than Petronas, they don't really take away from its dominance.

Outside of KLCC, the 445-meter tall The Exchange 106 is just about complete. It looks ridiculously tall as its neighbors (around ten 200+ skyscrapers!) are not yet really rising but will soon. I also love the LED lighting on the tower which is similar to some remarkable towers in China.

Not too far from The Exchange 106 is the new tallest building in making. The 118-storey and 666 meters tall Merdeka PNB 118 has its core currently at level 80 and it looks ridiculously tall from everywhere. It will be the new second icon for the city once completed in 2021 and it looks great so far.

Besides this, dozens of skyscrapers above 200 and even several above 300 meters under constructions, that it is mind-boggling. How are these mega projects able to find tenants to justify their construction? For example, The Exchange 106 has almost 5 million sqft of leasable space in that one building alone! It puzzles my mind how many office projects there are vs. what we have back in Canada.

I also have to mention transportation, as it is pretty amazing how Kuala Lumpur is able to have such a vast highway system and is also currently building many public transit lines. There will soon be 11 lines which are either called LRT or MRT, but it all looks heavy rapid transit to me. Their "LRT" is a heavier system than our SkyTrain from what I can tell.

Traffic jams don't also actually look that bad to me and it is interesting how a city can prioritize building for both modes of transportation rather than hating on cars like back home.

There are still problems, one being very poorly planned connections between intersecting lines that requires long walks in the scorching hot and humid weather. Another interesting problem is vandalism of commuter trains, where roughly one fifth of all windows on those trains are cracked from rock-flinging vandals along the railway. It is a very sad sight when trains themselves are very new.

Kuala Lumpur has been an interesting city to explore and I look forward to doing the same next in Singapore. Their buildings may not be as tall as in KL, but their city planning sounds super exciting to see!
SG's city planning is interesting for sure. They do a lot of things right and a lot of things very wrong. Excited to hear what you think of my old home!

PS if you're still there and want a great view of Petronas check out the poolbar at the Traders Hotel, head up for sunset and stick around for the night views of the towers.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2019, 2:19 AM
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Thanks for that post. I was just in KL and Singapore several months ago and was blown away by a region of the world I had previously paid very little attention to. Perhaps life for the average resident of these cities is very poor but you have to admire what they're able to put up in a short span of time. We think our track of consultations and consideration of public interest is an ideal and perhaps it is but can't deny it slows the hell out of things and stifles wonder projects that could have been, but isn't.

Also I'm pretty sure KL is not the only Malaysian city that houses offices as it's still a fairly large country with multiple metropolitan areas such as Penang and Johor, each with their own independent regional economies.
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Thanks for that post. I was just in KL and Singapore several months ago and was blown away by a region of the world I had previously paid very little attention to. Perhaps life for the average resident of these cities is very poor but you have to admire what they're able to put up in a short span of time. We think our track of consultations and consideration of public interest is an ideal and perhaps it is but can't deny it slows the hell out of things and stifles wonder projects that could have been, but isn't.

Also I'm pretty sure KL is not the only Malaysian city that houses offices as it's still a fairly large country with multiple metropolitan areas such as Penang and Johor, each with their own independent regional economies.
No, it's really just KL. Penang and JB are smaller cities, with decent populations but little to no major commerce. It's all centralized in KL.

Also the regular citizens of SG live very good lives by a global standard. Malaysia a little less so, but still better than average.
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We think our track of consultations and consideration of public interest is an ideal and perhaps it is but can't deny it slows the hell out of things and stifles wonder projects that could have been, but isn't.
Well, Singaporeans sometimes complain that everything gets decided too fast and from inside an echo chamber, with a focus on speed and efficiency over consequences. I think the best solution lies somewhere in the middle.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2019, 3:11 PM
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Thanks for the replies, guys. I appreciate the insight and will have more questions once back home next week.

Meanwhile, few notes and comments from Singapore, after spending now three days exploring it. I have to say that it has lived up to its reputation and my expectations, everything being so clean and feeling so safe. I feel perfectly fine to be carrying my expensive DSLR even after dark with normal street smarts and oh boy, is there a lot to take photos of! Everything in the streetscape is so well-planned and thought out that it is incredible. I also knew what to expect from Gardens by the Bay, but it still blew my mind - especially the Cloud Forest dome. Just WOW and I ended up visiting both day and night (they give free re-entry stamps) for the different setting.

Main sights aside, it is pretty incredible to be in a city that is also a nation, where one can take subway anywhere in the country. The system is very well connected, however I am surprised by how much walking one still has to do. They could use a lot more horizontal escalators on stations and I have only seen few so far.

One of the best sights I visited was the free city planning museum. Now, that was an interesting visit and you wouldn't think one can fill three floors with interesting things! One can tell that Singaporeans like to think long-term and I was surprised to learn that both Marina Bay and Changi expansion were reclaimed from sea already in the 80s! The former has been sitting empty for decades and there are dozens of empty lots, although skyscrapers keep going up.

Related to skyscrapers, I hope they could ditch their height restrictions as they have a risk of having a tabletop skyline in the future. It was very clearly visible in the city planning museum models. By the way, we should definitely have such a museum in Vancouver to boast about our successful city planning principles, like vancouverism.

Singapore could also take some note from Vancouver about adding more housing in Downtown, as the area gets pretty quiet after hours excluding the touristy shoreline area. It seems that more residential towers are going up in the future, which should also help with MRT overcrowding, which doesn't seem too bad but is likely going to get worse with all the development in the suburbs.

Another interesting bit to learn was that Singapore is planning and is actually already in the process of relocating its vital cargo terminals into the Tuas Super Harbour, which will open huge areas of new and central waterfront for development. I am sure one can fit one million people into those areas, which will definitely require extra investments in expanding the MRT. Singapore seems to be building a new crosstown line in anticipation of this and few other developments, which shows them thinking forward.

One thing I have been surprised by is that I haven't seen a single electric car during my three days walking all around the city. One would think Singapore being so ideal for electric cars, they would be common, but apparently not. Another thing I do like, and the city planning museum confirmed is, that Singaporeans do not hate cars and they building for ALL modes of transportation. Most roads seem tolled but they don't view car as the anti-christ like back home. Something for us to learn about, as you need all models of transportation in a city.

I also like how Singapore's streets are wide with 4-5 lanes in one direction, making the traffic move fast and not be crowded. Vancouver should also give up trying to have two-way streets everywhere and turn more streets one-way to have more lanes for better traffic flow. Now our streets are trying to do EVERYTHING at the same time; being two-way, allowing street parking, having bike lanes on arterial roads and not having left-turn bays, and we are unsuccessful in all of those things working out very well.

I can definitely see why Singapore is considered a highly livable city and is a top-tourist destination, but I have to say that even with all the awe-inspiring sights and spectacular architecture, the city is a bit... dull. Everything is so predictable and work so well, and while that is all great for those living here, I don't find it the most exciting place to visit. I am sure to return at some point, but something got me a lot more excited about Kuala Lumpur and it wasn't just the supertalls...

Anyways, those are some of my thoughts after few days here, so just scratching the surface. Few more days to go before flying back to ah, so much cooler Vancouver. I wouldn't be able to stand this hot and humid weather year-round and will be so happy to be back a climate more suitable for my Scandinavian self. And hey, ski season is almost here, which is something you cannot do in Singapore.
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Thanks for the replies, guys. I appreciate the insight and will have more questions once back home next week.

Meanwhile, few notes and comments from Singapore, after spending now three days exploring it. I have to say that it has lived up to its reputation and my expectations, everything being so clean and feeling so safe. I feel perfectly fine to be carrying my expensive DSLR even after dark with normal street smarts and oh boy, is there a lot to take photos of! Everything in the streetscape is so well-planned and thought out that it is incredible. I also knew what to expect from Gardens by the Bay, but it still blew my mind - especially the Cloud Forest dome. Just WOW and I ended up visiting both day and night (they give free re-entry stamps) for the different setting.

Main sights aside, it is pretty incredible to be in a city that is also a nation, where one can take subway anywhere in the country. The system is very well connected, however I am surprised by how much walking one still has to do. They could use a lot more horizontal escalators on stations and I have only seen few so far.
Hah so stronger policing and criminal laws works? Who knew.
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Hah so stronger policing and criminal laws works? Who knew.
A) Singapore's penal code also includes hanging, caning, and anti-sodomy laws. Less of a role model and more of a curio.

B) When your government and society is basically like Tropico, anything is possible; not only did LKY have the authority to regulate the temperature of AC units in every government office (he read somewhere that administrations in temperate climates were more productive and less stressed), he also had a country where such a regulation could be carried out and enforced to the letter.

In other words, apples to oranges. That kind of system doesn't even work in China, much less Canada.
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Hah so stronger policing and criminal laws works? Who knew.
You would want Canada to adopt Singapore's criminal laws? Or should I say "soft authoritarianism"? Canada would cease to be Canada.


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One of the best sights I visited was the free city planning museum. Now, that was an interesting visit and you wouldn't think one can fill three floors with interesting things! One can tell that Singaporeans like to think long-term and I was surprised to learn that both Marina Bay and Changi expansion were reclaimed from sea already in the 80s! The former has been sitting empty for decades and there are dozens of empty lots, although skyscrapers keep going up.
That's great that you went to the museum. I worked for the URA, and photographed that museum. The highlight was the hawker's market across the street .

Singapore is a weird one to me. It's clean, green, safe, modern and the food is glorious, but if there is a city that is the antithesis to the world spontaneity, it's Singapore. Unless you're over there on a work package with a family, the city gets boring real quick. Having Malaysia so close by is a major plus though.
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....One of the best sights I visited was the free city planning museum. Now, that was an interesting visit and you wouldn't think one can fill three floors with interesting things! One can tell that Singaporeans like to think long-term and I was surprised to learn that both Marina Bay and Changi expansion were reclaimed from sea already in the 80s! The former has been sitting empty for decades and there are dozens of empty lots, although skyscrapers keep going up...
Sounds cool. You should post some pics of it in the Museums thread:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=188729
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Many Singaporeans are creative.... apparently, just not in the places where non-locals can see it.
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Japanese school in Vancouver becomes a National Historic Site

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VANCOUVER - For more than a century, a small school in Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside has kept British Columbia's rich Japanese tradition alive.

Now, the Vancouver Japanese Language School and Japanese Hall is receiving one of Canada’s highest honours: a National Historic Sites designation.

“It brought back fond memories of my childhood days," said Akira "Aki" Horrii, who was a student at the school before the Second World War.

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https://bc.ctvnews.ca/japanese-school-in-vancouver-becomes-a-national-historic-site-1.4684777
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Wasn't sure where to post this so here it is. I was riding the bus going west on Broadway recently and noticed this bike ahead of the bus with a light sign on his backpack. At first it read "99" and then it changed to "B Line" and then "Bus Full". I only managed to get pics of the last two.

Perhaps he was a former bus rider and is now poking fun at or trolling people stuck on the bus.



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Wasn't sure where to post this so here it is. I was riding the bus going west on Broadway recently and noticed this bike ahead of the bus with a light sign on his backpack. At first it read "99" and then it changed to "B Line" and then "Bus Full". I only managed to get pics of the last two.

Perhaps he was a former bus rider and is now poking fun at or trolling people stuck on the bus.
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99 B-line cyclist highlights congestion on North America’s busiest bus route

BY KRISTEN ROBINSON GLOBAL NEWS
Posted November 28, 2019 8:57 am
Updated November 28, 2019 11:58 am

A UBC student is commuting to and from classes with a message he hopes will spark a conversation about congestion and the need for more transit funding.

Along the busy Broadway corridor, cyclist Ashcon Partovi is hard to miss: the sign on his backpack reads “99 BUS FULL,” a daily reality for hundreds of commuters...

...Tired of waiting in line, Partovi decided to start cycling in protest to highlight what he sees as a lack of funding for transit projects.

“Were only building the SkyTrain halfway to UBC and really, that’s not acceptable,” said Partovi.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6227952/99-b-...ion-on-north-americas-busiest-bus-route/
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