DENVER | Main Development Thread #7 - Page 371

COtoOC · #**7401** Posted **Nov 18, 2019, 9:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

I don't think that's a resounding amount of development given that Forest City (now Brookfield) has been working the TOD site for nearly a decade. They've been marketing the hell out of the area and just cannot get commercial office tenants to bite. Now compare that lack of success with Lone Tree's wins and that's my beef with the TOD in Stapleton.

Oh, and who do I have to knife to get a Costco out here?

And whatever happened to the proposal for the SE corner of MKL and CP Blvds? I remember some high density condos or apartments were proposed, neighbors screamed, then nothing happened.

That really pissed me off. You bought a new house next to a lot at a busy intersection with a sign that says, "High Density Development Coming" and then complain when it's proposed. But then people bitched about the Eastbridge town center, claiming "traffic"

The Dirt · #**7402** Posted **Nov 18, 2019, 10:50 PM**

People that move to Denver: "I bought a house in the middle of the largest city in a 500 mile radius. Why isn't my house the last thing to be built ever?! Waaaah!"

jbssfelix · #**7403** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 4:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Oh, and who do I have to knife to get a Costco out here?

Hell, I just want a dry cleaner north of 70...

wong21fr · #**7404** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by jbssfelix

Hell, I just want a dry cleaner north of 70...

I heard we're getting another taco joint instead. That makes four in the area I believe.

twister244 · #**7405** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 4:32 PM**

I honestly can't remember if this is a proposed office building in RiNo that we have discussed already.... My apologies if it has already....

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2019/11/18/paradigm-river-north-denver.html#g/463803/1

SnyderBock · #**7406** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 6:05 PM**

Stapleton was master planned to eventually have 30,000 residents and 30,000 jobs. Last I heard from this forum, Stapleton is on pace now for a full build out of only 15,000 people and is falling well short of 10,000 jobs, not to mention 30,000 jobs. It's close to being a complete failure in the since that the entire master plan was for a new urbanist medium density, mix use community.

wong21fr · #**7407** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 6:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by SnyderBock

Stapleton was master planned to eventually have 30,000 residents and 30,000 jobs. Last I heard from this forum, Stapleton is on pace now for a full build out of only 15,000 people and is falling well short of 10,000 jobs, not to mention 30,000 jobs. It's close to being a complete failure in the since that the entire master plan was for a new urbanist medium density, mix use community.

Yeah. No. The neighborhood has about 29,000 residents at last estimate and the last ~1,000 SFH/duplex/townhomes have still to break ground. This doesn't include a couple thousand more residential units slated for the TOD site, multi-family sites, and affordable housing sites throughout the neighborhood. Place is packed with wealthy folks with a sprinkling of affordable homes as well. Now if we can just get the auditorium and indoor pool for the high school....

Not sure about the job number, but it's certainly above 10,000.

jbssfelix · #**7408** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 6:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

I heard we're getting another taco joint instead. That makes four in the area I believe.

Future Taco Bell up in Beeler Park to join:

Torchy's
Fuzzy's
Del Taco
Wahoo's Fish Taco
Qdoba
La Sandia
Costa Vida

And that's just Northfield. Throw in the rest of Stapleton and add:

Chipotle
Comida
Los Chingones

bunt_q · #**7409** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Now if we can just get the auditorium and indoor pool for the high school....

Pay to build your own dang indoor pool, New Denver. Or make Aurora pay for it!

Denver Dweller · #**7410** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 7:46 PM**

https://denverite.com/2019/11/18/denver-...cG8x2kkJP0frLnzYpS6I6Evwtp2RqRmsojrYWF-s

wong21fr · #**7411** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

Pay to build your own dang indoor pool, New Denver. Or make Aurora pay for it!

Quiet, blue blood, as least we have more than SFH's on our streets and welcome developers with open arms. Isn't there a DCC gala for you to attend?

Rumor is that the master community association is looking at ways to fund it so that the community could use it too. Excluding the rest of Denver of course.

SirLucasTheGreat · #**7412** Posted **Nov 19, 2019, 9:55 PM**

The parking lot at 10th and Acoma is closed and concrete barriers are being placed. In addition, I saw some fencing and activity around 955 Bannock. Not sure if they are ready to demolish that building.

CONative · #**7413** Posted **Nov 20, 2019, 12:21 AM**

Whoops. See below...

CONative · #**7414** Posted **Nov 20, 2019, 12:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Yeah. No. The neighborhood has about 29,000 residents at last estimate and the last ~1,000 SFH/duplex/townhomes have still to break ground. This doesn't include a couple thousand more residential units slated for the TOD site, multi-family sites, and affordable housing sites throughout the neighborhood. Place is packed with wealthy folks with a sprinkling of affordable homes as well. Now if we can just get the auditorium and indoor pool for the high school....

Not sure about the job number, but it's certainly above 10,000.

Yeah, my latest knowledge is that Stapleton is over 27,000 and counting. Should definitely be over the original estimate of 30,000 by full build-out...so that would exceed the "new-urbanism" expectation from the original plans.

As far as the developments in those large vacant parcels for multi-family (i.e. MLK and CPB), the developers need to come and fully commit, and the land isn't cheap...but the low-income slated spots also often gets subsidies. They will eventually, and they HAVE filled those multi-family (including low-income) spots in many of what was previously vacant parcels forever. A lot of building with SF and multi-family homes have been built in Stapleton over the years ...and pretty quickly. Give it time to fill in the holes.

The jobs and office/hotel/retail components still have a lot of land and potential as well. This is also still certainly not at build-out yet. Jobs are definitely over 10,000 -- maybe over 15,000. More to come for sure.

coolmandan03 · #**7415** Posted **Nov 20, 2019, 12:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by SirLucasTheGreat

The parking lot at 10th and Acoma is closed and concrete barriers are being placed. In addition, I saw some fencing and activity around 955 Bannock. Not sure if they are ready to demolish that building.

Which side of 10th and Acoma? If on the southwest side, that's proposed to be a huge 17 story development.

CONative · #**7416** Posted **Nov 20, 2019, 12:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by COtoOC

I agree, as a 15 year Stapleton resident. I walk to the Eastbridge town center and the Stanley, so something like 15 local restaurants, the grocery store, a rec center.... I'm pleased with how it's turned out so far.

You also have a number of parks out your front door and nearby to walk to. Pretty walkable for most folks indeed.

SirLucasTheGreat · #**7417** Posted **Nov 20, 2019, 2:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by coolmandan03

Which side of 10th and Acoma? If on the southwest side, that's proposed to be a huge 17 story development.

It's this one on the Southwest corner of 10th and Acoma. She's goin' be a biggin

Sam Hill · #**7418** Posted **Nov 20, 2019, 2:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by twister244

I honestly can't remember if this is a proposed office building in RiNo that we have discussed already.... My apologies if it has already....

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2019/11/18/paradigm-river-north-denver.html#g/463803/1

First time I've seen it. Looks great. Love those "aerial" renderings.

jbssfelix · #**7419** Posted **Nov 20, 2019, 3:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Now if we can just get the auditorium and indoor pool for the high school....

I believe an auditorium is part of the current build-out. It wasn't originally, but then they just decided to go balls-to-the-wall and build the entire plan in one phase. I'll find a source and edit today.

EDIT: Scratch that...I read music/drama addition as auditorium. Boo.

"1) a two story 46-classroom building, 2) a music/drama addition, 3) 2 new auxiliary gyms, 4) 4 new tennis courts, and 5) a new soccer field"

https://www.stapletondenver.com/whats-ha...ver-public-schools-paul-sandoval-campus/

COtoOC · #**7420** Posted **Nov 20, 2019, 3:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by jbssfelix

Future Taco Bell up in Beeler Park to join:

Torchy's
Fuzzy's
Del Taco
Wahoo's Fish Taco
Qdoba
La Sandia
Costa Vida

And that's just Northfield. Throw in the rest of Stapleton and add:

Chipotle
Comida
Los Chingones

Mexican food... it doesn't get any more American that that!

We primarily go to Comida and Los Chingones. Not bad, and we can walk to them.