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Failed Costco/Club Price location:
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5125038,...IMBrd8fRn3Hc2uy9dyMUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Failed Zellers location right next door (now a Government of Canada warehouse):
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5115822,...47JxoR1hUhRCT4SRkRqmw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Don't let those cinder blocks fool you. The parking lots are accessible and great places to teach your kids how to drive.
I've driven by at night and noticed while on A-50 some suspicious looking car to car deliveries occurring there.

I look out for parking lots like that as I've been trying to teach my kids how to drive a manual transmission car.
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I've driven by at night and noticed while on A-50 some suspicious looking car to car deliveries occurring there.

I look out for parking lots like that as I've been trying to teach my kids how to drive a manual transmission car.
I think that parking lot is used by some motorcycle school, actually.

I think a Costco in the west end of the city would probably be a hit. Never understood why they built one here. Highway access, I guess.
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I think that parking lot is used by some motorcycle school, actually.

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Yes, that too. I had forgotten.
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I think a Costco in the west end of the city would probably be a hit. Never understood why they built one here. Highway access, I guess.
Yes, in the western part of the Plateau would be a good location, though the city is less and less open to big box developments these days.

The council's recent approval of a (grandfathered?) big box development called Destination Vanier (as in Chemin Vanier, not Vanier east end Ottawa) was very controversial and drew a big hue and cry.
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Yes, in the western part of the Plateau would be a good location, though the city is less and less open to big box developments these days.

The council's recent approval of a (grandfathered?) big box development called Destination Vanier (as in Chemin Vanier, not Vanier east end Ottawa) was very controversial and drew a big hue and cry.
Funny you mention Vanier.. I noticed they have put up a big blue fence at the lot on the SE corner of Plateau/Vanier. I wonder if they are getting ready to raze the lot for some more commercial development?
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Funny you mention Vanier.. I noticed they have put up a big blue fence at the lot on the SE corner of Plateau/Vanier. I wonder if they are getting ready to raze the lot for some more commercial development?
I think that is Destination Vanier - what I was talking about.
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I think that is Destination Vanier - what I was talking about.
Oops. My bad.

The signage they have up on that lot features a lot of big-box type stores (much like what is currently there at Allumettières and Vanier).

That intersection is getting overwhelmed... adding more car oriented development is going to make things even worse.
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It is moving forward, as reported in the Aylmer Bulletin last week.



I'm of mixed opinion on this. I guess it depends on what the retail/business tenants will be, but there will be major work needed to clear up what is already a messy traffic site on Ch Vanier north of Allumettières
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It is moving forward, as reported in the Aylmer Bulletin last week.



I'm of mixed opinion on this. I guess it depends on what the retail/business tenants will be, but there will be major work needed to clear up what is already a messy traffic site on Ch Vanier north of Allumettières
Thanks for the update.

I take that road everyday to get home. From Plateau to Allumettieres is a nightmare at rush hour. It's extremely bottlenecked with that stupid light at the Maxi entrance.

I think there were plans to create a WB-only exit to Katimavik from the 148. That would probably funnel a lot of traffic off Vanier (and just move the problem to Katimavik/Plateau).

Maybe eventually there will be an interchange at Vanier one day, but there is not much room to work with.
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Decision day for Stonebridge residents on golf course deal
Homeowners asked whether they want to pay levy to preserve Stonebridge Golf Club

Amanda Pfeffer · CBC News
Posted: Nov 08, 2019 8:30 AM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago




It's decision day for 3,300 residents of Barrhaven's Stonebridge neighbourhood, who must decide whether they want to kick in to buy a golf course to stave off more development.

If the community votes yes, each homeowner will have to pay an annual levy to $7 million to buy the majority of the property from Mattamy Homes. The developer would still be able to build on a portion of the land, but the rest could remain as a golf course, or be converted to green space.

The issue has been the source of heated debate for weeks, pitting residents who support the purchase against those who don't.

"My biggest hope is that the community can heal," said Peter Nikic, who has been canvassing in the residential community to convince homeowners to vote against the plan.

"We're divided, we've had people screaming at each other in the street."

Nikic said he will accept a yes vote if that's what residents want, but he's concerned the process leading up to it has been opaque, with few details about what residents are truly getting for their money.

Mattamy proposed last year to build 158 homes on the land, but retreated amid enormous backlash from residents.

The purchase proposal was developed by a working group including members of the community association, city officials and the developer.

The purchase would allow Mattamy to build some homes, but would cap further development. It would also redesign the course so Stonebridge Golf Club maintains its "championship" class, and doesn't drop to a lower level.

To do that, residents would need to pay a levy of between $166 and $460 a year, depending on the value of their property. The levy would be applied to each resident's tax bill over the next nine years.

"This vote is what gets them the things that they said they wanted last year," said Rideau-Goulbourn Coun. Scott Moffatt. "Now it's up to them."

He acknowledged the debate has been fraught with emotion.

"It's unfortunate it's been divisive," Moffatt said. "Any time you're dealing with financial impacts, it's going to be emotional. People are going to be passionate about it on either side of the equation."

Moffatt said he's hoping for good voter turnout before imposing the levy on homeowners.

"There isn't a set criteria, but in my opinion If we only had 10 per cent of the [eligible voters], I wouldn't be in favour," he said.

"It has to be a significant amount of residents in that area that are impacted by this in order to really make a decision."

Moffatt said a no vote doesn't necessarily mean the deal is dead, but residents would only have until March to come up with another way to raise the money.

Most voters mailed in their ballots, but residents can also hand in their vote to the city clerk as long as it arrives by 4 p.m. Friday.

The result will appear on the City of Ottawa website on Saturday.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/stonebridge-golf-course-barrhaven-vote-plan-1.5352433
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2019, 3:44 AM
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Stonebridge residents vote in favour of a golf course levy

Andrew Duffy, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: November 8, 2019


Residents of Barrhaven’s Stonebridge neighbourhood have voted by a two-thirds margin in favour of investing in the preservation of their local golf course.

Results of votes cast by a Friday afternoon deadline showed that residents voted 1,470 to 741 in favour of an annual tax levy to raise $7 million for the potential purchase of Stonebridge Golf Cub from its current owner, Mattamy Homes.

The levy would be in place for nine years at a rate based on the assessed value of each home. A resident with a home valued at $595,000 would pay an annual levy of $283.

“It has not been an easy process, but we are extremely pleased with the result — and number of households in Stonebridge that took the time to vote,” the Stonebridge Community Association working group said in a written statement Friday evening.

About 66 per cent of eligible homeowners cast votes in the city-run consultation process.

The working group said it would move ahead with the next step in the process involving formalizing an existing letter of intent as a legally binding agreement between Mattamy, the Stonebridge Community Association and the City of Ottawa. The city must also sign off on the deal.

If it’s finalized, the special levy would be applied starting in 2021 to 3,385 homes in the area surrounding the golf course.

Under terms of the deal, Mattamy will develop 158 new homes in the southeast corner of the 198-acre golf club. It will also redesign the golf course and continue to operate it for 10 years, at which point Mattamy will have the option to sell it to the community for $6 million.

The community, if it acquires the land, will have to maintain it as a golf course or convert it to parkland. The extra $1 million it’s raising would be used to pay for taxes, legal fees and to either operate the golf club or convert it to greenspace.

The city will be responsible for maintenance of the greenspace if the community decides to transfer its ownership.

The unusual compromise came about a little more than a year after Mattamy announced it intended to build on the golf course and shrink it in size.

Mattamy withdrew its development application in the face of strong local opposition to the plan, but then entered into negotiations with local homeowners when tempers cooled.

The city-sponsored talks were facilitated by planning consultant Jack Stirling, who helped engineer the deal just approved by Stonebridge residents.

The vote settles one of Ottawa’s two golf course controversies.

In late October, hundreds of people jammed a west end community meeting to discuss ClubLink’s controversial development plan for the Kanata Golf and Country Club. The company wants to close the golf course and build 1,502 units: a mixture of homes, townhouse and apartments.

Local residents, however, contend that a long-standing legal agreement guarantees that 40 per cent of the Kanata Lakes development is to remain greenspace. ClubLink contends that deal is invalid.

That issue is now before the courts.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...nts-vote-in-favour-of-a-golf-course-levy
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That whole lot has been cleared now.. that didn't take very long.
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Barrhaven's 'final piece' could be a new downtown core
Plan to guide future development goes to planning committee Thursday

Kate Porter · CBC News
Posted: Nov 25, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: November 25


Barrhaven's city councillor has spearheaded a plan to create a downtown for the Ottawa suburb, and she sees a new performing arts facility and library at its heart.

Staff are recommending the city's planning committee, which Coun. Jan Harder chairs, approve the updated document at its meeting Thursday in a bid to stimulate activity on a large tract of land near the Jock River.

"It's just time," said Harder, explaining the current plan from 2006 has yet to give her community of nearly 100,000 a proper core.

That plan, she said, revolved around condo buildings springing up around the north-south rail line project that was cancelled a decade ago.

Thirteen years later, the area north of the Jock River and south of Strandherd Drive near Greenbank Road remains a field with some big box stores.

Harder said that area needs to be Barrhaven's heart as it's set to become an intersection of two rapid transit lines — the existing north-south bus line on Riocan Avenue, and a future bus Transitway line in the middle of Chapman Mills Drive when that road is eventually extended.

Secondary plans are usually led by a municipality, but they can take years to be enacted. This one was led by developers Richcraft and Minto.

"Somebody had to pay for the process and somebody had to get it going," Harder said, adding she was the one to approach the area's two main landowners.

"It was about two years ago I was in touch with Richcraft and Minto and I said, 'You know what folks? We've got to get this thing going. It's not going to get going with the deal that was put into place and approved by council back in 2006.'"



Richcraft and Minto held a couple of meetings in 2017 with local businesses and the community, and then this past June ran the plan past other area developers including Caivan, Claridge, Mattamy and RioCan.

If the new secondary plan is approved, minimum building heights would be lowered to two storeys and maximum heights raised to 30 storeys.

While the old plan broke the area up into city blocks divided by streets, the new plan leaves large blocks with their layouts to be determined later.

It also lays out Riocan Avenue as a walkable main street featuring buildings with ground-floor uses, and Harder sees the big box retail parking lots eventually being built up with denser developments.

The plan also includes a large park on the Jock River floodplain, as well as a linear park.

The suburb's future downtown should be one where residents can go for a night out and visit local stores and residents, said Jason MacDonald, a local realtor who chairs Barrhaven's business improvement area.

"When I say a downtown core, I mean like [one from] a Hallmark movie," said MacDonald.

"Barrhaven is a 100,000 people now. We need that central gathering spot,."

The plan also includes space for a civic building in the middle of the tract of land, which Harder now envisions as a performing arts facility and library with an outdoor plaza for events.

Harder said residents have told her they want something like the Shenkman Arts Centre in Orléans.

"This is a final piece. It's like a puzzle. I'm taking that piece and I'm putting it on the board and I'm very excited to be able to have a downtown in what is, really, a large Ontario city," said Harder.

Harder expects the City of Ottawa will need help from the private sector to make Barrhaven's planned downtown a reality, even if she is not the councillor to see it through — she plans for this term to be her final one on city council.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/downtown-barrhaven-secondary-plan-committee-1.5370302
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This should hopefully bring a bit of density to Barrhaven, rather than the usual sprawl.
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Planning committee endorses refreshed vision for Barrhaven 'downtown'

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: November 28, 2019


The planning committee on Thursday approved a refreshed concept plan for a Barrhaven “downtown.”

Barrhaven’s town centre is considered to be the area south of Strandherd Drive, west of Longfields Drive, north of the Jock River and east of the Kennedy-Burnett Stormwater Management Facility. It’s a major commercial area with several box-type stores.

However, the vision is to make the district a true downtown with residential towers near transit stations and a civic square that would be a destination and gathering place for the community.

Other commercial properties in Ottawa have been eyed for similar redevelopments involving apartment or condo towers above ground-level stores.

The Barrhaven plan calls for 11,050 residential units and 9,300 of them would be apartments. Commercial space would provide 12,600 jobs.

The site has a big advantage over other large commercial districts: the southwest Transitway, which runs north-south, and will one day be converted to LRT, bisects the town centre. There’s also a rapid bus corridor on Chapman Mills Drive.

The development of a Barrhaven downtown won’t happen overnight, but the blueprint, which will require an official plan amendment approved by council on Dec. 11, would set the vision.

Minto Communities and Richcraft Homes applied to amend the secondary plan for the district. The companies are major landholders there.

Barrhaven Coun. Jan Harder used the plan, which she fully endorses, to lament the state of transportation infrastructure in the suburb. She said it’s “incredibly awful.”

Harder, the chair of the planning committee, said little has been done to improve the road network to make life easier for residents of booming Barrhaven, which is approaching a population of 100,000.

The city used money earmarked for Greenbank Road to instead widen Strandherd Drive, but now seeing the slow pace of improvements on Strandherd, Harder wants to know if the city can use any money from the Strandherd project on design work to improve Greenbank Road between Chapman Mills Drive and Barnsdale Road, plus extend McKenna Casey Drive to Dealership Drive. Under Harder’s proposal, McKenna Casey would be closed at the Via Rail level crossing for safety reasons.

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Here's a rendering.

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This seems like another instance of rendering bait and switch.
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This seems like another instance of rendering bait and switch.
Going to agree with you on this one.
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Here's a rendering with a wider view. It's nice to see LRT in there.

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Here's a rendering with a wider view. It's nice to see LRT in there.

The LRT just shows how unrealistic this is. The LRT shown is running in the median of Chapman Mills. The City has no plans to extend the Trillium Line to Chapman Mills like the N-S LRT plan did. And even if they were to further extend the Trillium Line - based on their current philosophy they wouldn't run it at-grade as shown.

It's also clear the secondary plan people were not talking to the Barrhaven LRT EA people because the proposed LRT alignment, station placement (and removal of marketplace station), bus loop, and potential P&R are all not reflected in the secondary plan.
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