Phoenix Development News (3) - Page 784

TJPHXskyscraperfan · #**15661** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 5:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

I hax0red the Link's website and my 1337 computer systems counted 155 available Link units of 330, under 47% availability.

$ curl -s https://thelinkphx.com/availability |grep -o ml-4|wc -l
155

The Link is only about 250 units total.

TJPHXskyscraperfan · #**15662** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 6:09 AM**

I hope Google Earth downtown gets updated soon. It’s been a couple years. Anyone have any idea when that might be updated?

CrestedSaguaro · #**15663** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 4:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by TJPHXskyscraperfan

The Link is only about 250 units total.

257 to be exact according to construction articles. This would bring occupancy up quite a bit of combu's occupancy numbers are correct...about 60%.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15664** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 4:18 PM**

RFP issued for bike commuter space at CityScape:

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Downtown Phoenix Inc. Opens RFP For New Bike Commuter Facility At CityScape Phoenix

As more businesses, residents and students move in to Downtown Phoenix, the need for pedestrian-friendly sidewalks, bike lanes and multi-modal transit options is only going to increase.

To help serve the growing number of people looking for car-free or parking-free transportation options in the urban core, Downtown Phoenix Inc., in partnership with Valley Metro and RED Development, is launching a bike commuter facility on the ground floor of CityScape Phoenix.

In order to help get the space off the ground, RED Development is offering to provide all necessary improvements to the facility, with the help of downtown design firm and Phoenix Community Alliance member, SmithGroup.

All it needs is the right bike vendor, which will maintain full responsibility and control of the space. Downtown Phoenix Inc. opened a request for proposals (RFP) on Oct. 14, and is currently accepting applications until Nov. 15. The final selection will be announced before the end of the year on Dec. 16, and build-out of the space is slated to begin in 2020.

The first of its kind in the area, the proposed bike commuter space is located at 1 E. Washington Street in the space formerly occupied by Jos. A. Bank, and adjacent to one of four new light rail platforms constructed as part of the Valley Metro Downtown Hub.

It will offer various amenities, such as shower stalls, changing rooms, lockers, secure bike storage, and space for a retail operation. The goal is to make commuting to, from and around downtown easy and convenient for cyclists of all abilities.

It will be membership-based, offering 24-hour access via key card to locker rooms and bike storage, and during daytime business hours, offering bike repairs, maintenance, valet and other bike-related services.

A portion of the 3,506-square-foot space will be shared with Valley Metro, and be used as an information and transit hub.

Source: https://dtphx.org/2019/11/06/downtown-ph...d-development-on-bike-commuter-facility/

Edit: I probably should've posted this in transportation developments. Mods, please move if you appropriate.

muertecaza · #**15665** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 4:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

RFP issued for bike commuter space at CityScape:

Source: https://dtphx.org/2019/11/06/downtown-ph...d-development-on-bike-commuter-facility/

Edit: I probably should've posted this in transportation developments. Mods, please move if you appropriate.

Awesome development. Sounds similar to Bike Cellar in Tempe, but a step better with the 24-hour access--Bike Cellar is closed midnight - 4 AM. I haven't had to use the bike storage/shower facilities there because I have them at work, but I do use the bike shop occasionally and having a commuter-oriented bike shop is very helpful.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15666** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 4:44 PM**

Here we go! Pre-app submitted for Central Station:

PHX · #**15667** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 4:46 PM**

That is so steamy!

PhxMatt · #**15668** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 4:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Looks like they currently have 79 units available out of 312. So roughly 74% occupancy right now.

I live in the Stewart, they aren’t even near the 50% mark yet; though there have been several new move-ins over the past few weeks.

Obadno · #**15669** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 4:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Here we go! Pre-app submitted for Central Station:

Im dead this is too much, how much more can we build, its too much.

Also what does that mean we are about a year from groundbreaking?

CrestedSaguaro · #**15670** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 4:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by PhxMatt

I live in the Stewart, they aren’t even near the 50% mark yet; though there have been several new move-ins over the past few weeks.

The Stewart website list all current units available which totals 79. If they have more than that available, maybe you could verify it with property leasing and get an accurate count?

CrestedSaguaro · #**15671** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

Im dead this is too much, how much more can we build, its too much.

Also what does that mean we are about a year from groundbreaking?

I think they wanted to break ground by Spring 2021. So a year or so sounds about right. Too long!

combusean · #**15672** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

Im dead this is too much, how much more can we build, its too much.

Also what does that mean we are about a year from groundbreaking?

The Central Station project is dragging too much ass and if it didn't get off the ground I'd be fine with it. A PAPP is something they should have had shortly after the RFP. Every fly by night non-developer during condomania had one of those.

The project is an everything and the kitchen-sink development designed to maximize points on the RFP only to disappear into the skyline rather than being an iconic, legacy, new tallest sort of thing.

Also, thank you TJPHX for that correction on the Link's unit count. I must be getting senile in my advanced age...

CrestedSaguaro · #**15673** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 9:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

The Central Station project is dragging too much ass and if it didn't get off the ground I'd be fine with it. A PAPP is something they should have had shortly after the RFP. Every fly by night non-developer during condomania had one of those.

The project is an everything and the kitchen-sink development designed to maximize points on the RFP only to disappear into the skyline rather than being an iconic, legacy, new tallest sort of thing.

Well, they did state a Spring 2021 start date from the get go. A PAPP now would put them around that time frame. But I agree it's dragging.

With Apirant announcing potential plans for new tallest on 2nd Ave, I'm not so worried about Central Station being a new tallest anymore. And I honestly think Aspirant has a much better shot at building it than any of the failed Central Station proposals since the city seems to not want anything taller than the current proposal. If Central Station actually does get built as is, it will be no more than an infill project by the time everything else has started going up around it.

PHX-DUDE-MAN · #**15674** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 9:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

The Central Station project is dragging too much ass and if it didn't get off the ground I'd be fine with it. A PAPP is something they should have had shortly after the RFP. Every fly by night non-developer during condomania had one of those.

The project is an everything and the kitchen-sink development designed to maximize points on the RFP only to disappear into the skyline rather than being an iconic, legacy, new tallest sort of thing.

Also, thank you TJPHX for that correction on the Link's unit count. I must be getting senile in my advanced age...

Although I don't understand all of this, I agree with you in the sense that the city of Phoenix does not seem to take risks or push for something better. Phoenix seems to just settle and grab what they can. I was not impressed with the winning proposal. It was very non-iconic for such a prime location. But does Phoenix have much leverage to negotiate and get something better?

Obadno · #**15675** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 10:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHX-DUDE-MAN

Although I don't understand all of this, I agree with you in the sense that the city of Phoenix does not seem to take risks or push for something better. Phoenix seems to just settle and grab what they can. I was not impressed with the winning proposal. It was very non-iconic for such a prime location. But does Phoenix have much leverage to negotiate and get something better?

No, maybe in another decade.

combusean · #**15676** Posted **Nov 7, 2019, 11:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHX-DUDE-MAN

Although I don't understand all of this, I agree with you in the sense that the city of Phoenix does not seem to take risks or push for something better. Phoenix seems to just settle and grab what they can. I was not impressed with the winning proposal. It was very non-iconic for such a prime location. But does Phoenix have much leverage to negotiate and get something better?

The problem with Phoenix projects is every single one of them with the noted exception of Chase Tower was built to be sold. Things like new tallests represent significant, long-term investment into a city given their enormous costs that don't often pencil out for the typical developer.

The RFP assigned points to submittals based on a few specific categories, none of which meant anything to us like height or good design but mostly on economic return to the city. If the RFP asked for things like that, we possibly would have got it, but a developer would have to make a long-term bet on Phoenix. That's hard to do given our previous cycles of booms and busts.

Obadno is right about maybe in another decade because we are finally starting to emerge as an economically sustainable city. We would have to be very far off from being the second-worst city to be hit by the worst recession in 80 years.

azliam · #**15677** Posted **Nov 8, 2019, 12:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by PHX-DUDE-MAN

Although I don't understand all of this, I agree with you in the sense that the city of Phoenix does not seem to take risks or push for something better. Phoenix seems to just settle and grab what they can. I was not impressed with the winning proposal. It was very non-iconic for such a prime location. But does Phoenix have much leverage to negotiate and get something better?

The Davis proposal was the best-looking IMO.

https://thedavisexperience.com/project/phoenix-central-station

ASU Diablo · #**15678** Posted **Nov 8, 2019, 1:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by azliam

The Davis proposal was the best-looking IMO.

https://thedavisexperience.com/project/phoenix-central-station

Yep but that was from the first round of RFPs when another proposal was selected. The 2nd time around, their proposal looked nothing like that

ASU Diablo · #**15679** Posted **Nov 8, 2019, 1:53 AM**

Took a little stroll around downtown today and took some crappy cell phone pics of the Hyatt Regency Adams streetscape improvements plus I also noticed that the Fry Building got a new paint job. I guess it's an improvement over the tan color but it's brick facade under all that stucco right? They should just do that...

combusean · #**15680** Posted **Nov 8, 2019, 1:57 AM**

Man, the Hyatt looks terrible. What were they thinking?!

Not a fan of the Fry Building paint job either. The blue awnings and white paint are a really bad combination for Phoenix.