Edmonton Construction 13 (November 2015)

[Coldrsx]

They wanted to limit it to 10... I provided dozens to choose from.

[DKaz]

An 82 storey mixed use condo/retail proposed in the Lougheed Town Centre area of Burnaby is slated to be roughly 800 feet tall or 244m. A little too close for comfort for Stantec Tower's bragging rights of tallest tower outside of Toronto.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Hardhatdan

Yea, you are and it's not because it's hidden.
This has always been a long term plan tied to both logistics and funding. 66st was in discussion if it should be closed or not.
Now they've decided not, based on community feedback, this over pass is being put into the overall program.

What's so hard to understand?

Not sure the antagonism is warranted but whatever. I'm just going on what I see when I ride that road from one end of the city to the other when I'm in town. It has to be the most-bush league part of the road, particularly when tied in with the horrible road surface to the west of the intersection up to Fort Road.

[s13]

Originally Posted by DKaz

An 82 storey mixed use condo/retail proposed in the Lougheed Town Centre area of Burnaby is slated to be roughly 800 feet tall or 244m. A little too close for comfort for Stantec Tower's bragging rights of tallest tower outside of Toronto.

Well Brookfield in Calgary could theoretically build a wooden shack on top of their tower that's 1.5M tall, and take the title from Stantec? lol

[Black Star]

Urban gondola station planned for Rossdale power plant.

Hope this transpires........

image by BLACK STAR III, on Flickr


https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/urban-gondola-station-planned-for-rossdale-power-plant-1.4662467

[Coldrsx]

Exciting times these be.

[sarathy]

Anyone got to know when the construction is going to kick-off for the proposed Edmonton Central Park?



Photo by me

https://postimg.cc/Q9PXtCv7

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by Black Star

Urban gondola station planned for Rossdale power plant.

Hope this transpires........

image by BLACK STAR III, on Flickr


https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/urban-gondola-station-planned-for-rossdale-power-plant-1.4662467

more creativity and imagination and potential in this than the current planning document for rossdale...

[Black Star]

Originally Posted by kcantor

more creativity and imagination and potential in this than the current planning document for rossdale...

I agree.....

Drove past your construction site today....It's a beehive of activity. It was nice to see the bottom floor glass.

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by Black Star

I agree.....

Drove past your construction site today....It's a beehive of activity. It was nice to see the bottom floor glass.

thanks... the only thing nicer is going to be tenant's behind it.

[itom 987]

Using the power plant as gondola station makes a lot of sense. The building looks like a perfect fit.

[SHOFEAR]

Can't help but assume that the city is going to be responsible for a huge chunk of cash to fix the old PP. and infrastructure to support the gondola.

I'm not sure what bubble our civic officials are living in, but perhaps this isn't the right time to support such vanity projects.

If the city still has money to throw at shit like this, obviously the provincial cuts didn't go deep enough.

[CMD UW]

Originally Posted by SHOFEAR

Can't help but assume that the city is going to be responsible for a huge chunk of cash to fix the old PP. and infrastructure to support the gondola.

I'm not sure what bubble our civic officials are living in, but perhaps this isn't the right time to support such vanity projects.

If the city still has money to throw at shit like this, obviously the provincial cuts didn't go deep enough.

Depends on how the asset is dealt with from a redevelopment perspective. All signs point towards letting the private sector figure it out.

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by SHOFEAR

Can't help but assume that the city is going to be responsible for a huge chunk of cash to fix the old PP. and infrastructure to support the gondola.

I'm not sure what bubble our civic officials are living in, but perhaps this isn't the right time to support such vanity projects.

If the city still has money to throw at shit like this, obviously the provincial cuts didn't go deep enough.

i think you might be conflating two things...

the gondola project's principals and spokespeople have been quoted as follows: "Hansen-Carlson intends to prove the gondola’s viability to the city in just over a week when a feasibility study for the project will be submitted, outlining the technical plans as well as the economic details, which has garnered most of the trepidation from city councillors with concerns about public funding.
…
“We’re not asking anybody for a nickel. In order to back up that statement, we will outline our capital plan and financial structure of this business to assure people we have the financial capacity,” said Hansen-Carlson."

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-n...t-unveils-plan-for-west-rossdale-station

i'm not sure how much clearer they can be that the gondola will not be asking for nor requiring public funds.

as for the power plant, all of the costs involved in rehabilitating and restoring the power plant are already a municipal liability and have been since the city assumed ownership from epcor. the gondola project doesn't change that one way or the other than offering the possibility of city being able to cost-share or download some of those liabilities.

[s4.audios]

Love it, this gondola project is going to be a huge win for the city.

Just like the funicular, it is the type of infrastructure needed to connect people to the river valley. It is the city's most important amenity and largely underused. The more people you get down there the more attractive the city will become for residents and for businesses.

[ronron]

Originally Posted by s4.audios

Love it, this gondola project is going to be a huge win for the city.

Just like the funicular, it is the type of infrastructure needed to connect people to the river valley. It is the city's most important amenity and largely underused. The more people you get down there the more attractive the city will become for residents and for businesses.

I doubt they'll be droves of people trekking down the hill to Rossdale by foot. Driving and parking there is not going to be reasonable option, assuming many visitors. Taking the bus there isn't an attractive mode of travel for a lot of people (comfort, reliability, etc). Honestly, if the development of the Rossdale area is really a top priority for the city, the gondola makes perfect sense. Not to mention, connecting Whyte.

[SHOFEAR]

Originally Posted by kcantor

i think you might be conflating two things...

the gondola project's principals and spokespeople have been quoted as follows: "Hansen-Carlson intends to prove the gondola’s viability to the city in just over a week when a feasibility study for the project will be submitted, outlining the technical plans as well as the economic details, which has garnered most of the trepidation from city councillors with concerns about public funding.
…
“We’re not asking anybody for a nickel. In order to back up that statement, we will outline our capital plan and financial structure of this business to assure people we have the financial capacity,” said Hansen-Carlson."

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-n...t-unveils-plan-for-west-rossdale-station

i'm not sure how much clearer they can be that the gondola will not be asking for nor requiring public funds.

as for the power plant, all of the costs involved in rehabilitating and restoring the power plant are already a municipal liability and have been since the city assumed ownership from epcor. the gondola project doesn't change that one way or the other than offering the possibility of city being able to cost-share or download some of those liabilities.

"costs involved in rehabilitating and restoring the power plant are already a municipal liability",

Yeah, exactly. But is this the time to take on such a project? a stop at the PP very much implies the city spending money on the PP in the very near future.

[SHOFEAR]

Originally Posted by ronron

I doubt they'll be droves of people trekking down the hill to Rossdale by foot. Driving and parking there is not going to be reasonable option, assuming many visitors. Taking the bus there isn't an attractive mode of travel for a lot of people (comfort, reliability, etc). Honestly, if the development of the Rossdale area is really a top priority for the city, the gondola makes perfect sense. Not to mention, connecting Whyte.

I thought Blatchford was a top redevelopment priority for the city?

Or was it East Jasper?

no, it's Fort Road.

wait, I forgot, isn't it now Northlands?

Remember the North Edge?

Edit, I forgot the warehouse district and the new park. How silly of me.

[s4.audios]

Originally Posted by ronron

I doubt they'll be droves of people trekking down the hill to Rossdale by foot. Driving and parking there is not going to be reasonable option,

One of the main reasons for the gondola is it not? People will be parking on Whyte or Downtown, taking the new infrastructure down to Rossdale.

Of course, it is not going to bring people in by droves. You gotta look at the big picture, the long term growth an attraction will create.

[ronron]

Originally Posted by s4.audios

One of the main reasons for the gondola is it not? People will be parking on Whyte or Downtown, taking the new infrastructure down to Rossdale.

Of course, it is not going to bring people in by droves. You gotta look at the big picture, the long term growth an attraction will create.

Oh, I was just making a point that the best form of transportation would likely be a gondola, as all the other options don't seem reasonable with respect to where Rossdale is located. I totally agree with you on the post you made that I quoted

I actually think Rossdale has the potential to bring in a lot of people, just the idea of a bunch of people walking down the hill to get there seems awkward.