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pbenjamin · #**15461** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 8:10 AM**

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Here is the staff report for the NWC of Central and Thomas. Encanto VPC Monday night.

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-41-19.pdf

Unanimous recommendation of approval.

Obadno · #**15462** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 3:10 PM**

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Unanimous recommendation of approval.

Great News I hope this guests built that corner is so strange with two office buildigns a strip mall and an empty lot.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15463** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 3:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by TJPHXskyscraperfan

Anyone have any idea on when Punch Bowl Social is opening? Was at First Friday and saw the coming soon sign. That place is really going to bring that whole area of bars together. Hopefully something comes to that old Milk Bar location, I used to like that place. Also, any word on whatever that development is called that they are doing behind The building with Traphouse Bar b que and Taco Chelo? It almost looks like another Church Hill. Anyone know what they will have there? Sooooooo much stuff happening.

Speaking of Milk Bar, the owners have been working on the interior for a while now and there is now a For Lease sign posted in front. Hopefully a tenant will be found soon. That location should do really well with Link opening.

CrestedSaguaro · #**15464** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by pbenjamin

Unanimous recommendation of approval.

244'. is not too bad. Would have liked to seen at least around 260'. It will blend in nicely with the intersection and get rid of an eyesore billboard and dirt lot.

downtownphxguy12 · #**15465** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 7:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by TJPHXskyscraperfan

Anyone have any idea on when Punch Bowl Social is opening? Was at First Friday and saw the coming soon sign. That place is really going to bring that whole area of bars together. Hopefully something comes to that old Milk Bar location, I used to like that place. Also, any word on whatever that development is called that they are doing behind The building with Traphouse Bar b que and Taco Chelo? It almost looks like another Church Hill. Anyone know what they will have there? Sooooooo much stuff happening.

From the construction schedule, looking like March.

muertecaza · #**15466** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 9:57 PM**

PUD for the Phoenix Country Club residences:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-51-19n.pdf

Pretty unobjectionable plan, especially considering the outsized controversy it caused.

combusean · #**15467** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 10:03 PM**

I seriously don't understand the Thomas/Central project as approved.

It has even less parking than existing struggling buildings and the size of its floorplates are nothing to write home about.

I wouldn't approve it. If it does get built as a spec project, it smells like a problem later.

Obadno · #**15468** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 10:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

I seriously don't understand the Thomas/Central project as approved.

It has even less parking than existing struggling buildings and the size of its floorplates are nothing to write home about.

I wouldn't approve it. If it does get built as a spec project, it smells like a problem later.

Are we really going to complain about parking limitations and small floor plates on an urban developemnt forum

Mr.RE · #**15469** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 10:39 PM**

Yeah, come on! Lets see more beautiful high rises instead. People can ride their scooters to work.

Edifice · #**15470** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 2:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

Are we really going to complain about parking limitations and small floor plates on an urban developemnt forum

Yeah, apparently...

pbenjamin · #**15471** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 7:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

I seriously don't understand the Thomas/Central project as approved.

It has even less parking than existing struggling buildings and the size of its floorplates are nothing to write home about.

I wouldn't approve it. If it does get built as a spec project, it smells like a problem later.

The ground floor is retail. The next 3 levels are parking (648 spaces). The surface parking (31 spaces) is for the retail. The parking provided exceeds the minimum requirement which is reduced by 25% due to the proximity of the light rail stop.

pbenjamin · #**15472** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 7:43 AM**

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244'. is not too bad. Would have liked to seen at least around 260'. It will blend in nicely with the intersection and get rid of an eyesore billboard and dirt lot.

The plan that was submitted was 244' but as approved they can go to 350', which is similar to the buildings across Central.

Clear Channel has a perpetual easement for the billboards which is one of the reasons why the site is vacant. The plan gives them video boards on the south and east sides of the building and a traditional billboard on the north side.

biggus diggus · #**15473** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 12:43 PM**

I'm a world where almost every one of us has a billboard in our pocket the fact that billboards still exist is kind of interesting to me.

Obadno · #**15474** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 3:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by muertecaza

PUD for the Phoenix Country Club residences:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-51-19n.pdf

Pretty unobjectionable plan, especially considering the outsized controversy it caused.

Is this any different from what was shot down?

pbenjamin · #**15475** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 3:56 PM**

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Is this any different from what was shot down?

It wasn’t shot down.

https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/2930024002

azsunsurfer · #**15476** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 5:44 PM**

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It wasn’t shot down.

https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/2930024002

It looks two stories shorter? Time for the height is blight brigade again?

Obadno · #**15477** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 6:51 PM**

I find it amazing that they put up a fight for this condo when the other two south-side corners are abandoned gas stations.

I still assume this is a couple of homeowners in the countryclub that are worried about being able to see the building from their backyards. Somebody with cash that has the city councils ear.

DesertRay · #**15478** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 8:33 PM**

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I find it amazing that they put up a fight for this condo when the other two south-side corners are abandoned gas stations.

I still assume this is a couple of homeowners in the countryclub that are worried about being able to see the building from their backyards. Somebody with cash that has the city councils ear.

These condo owners will now get to see all of the meth cooking that these Breaking Bad Club Types are doing (not to mention all of the — shuffleboard).

pbenjamin · #**15479** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 9:12 PM**

The new proposal is a PUD, which is a change. The height at 110 is less than what was proposed in the previous plan, but 110 was what was approved by City Council. Here is the staff report for the previous plan:

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-41-18.pdf

Obadno · #**15480** Posted **Oct 9, 2019, 9:43 PM**

So is this set to get moving soon? Those condos are going to have some sweet views