What Is The Weather Today? (No Mercury Jockeying!)

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by giallo

I'd love for Canada to have a region with reliably warm weather, but it's not the end of the world that we don't.

Living in southern Taiwan, the constant heat got old fast. By my third year there, I was so excited to have winter come as the nights would cool down, and I didn't have to constantly run the AC. Only problem is that sometimes winter didn't come, and you still had days in the high 20s/low 30s in January. By February, you knew that it was too late to have any chance at some cool/cold nighttime temps, and you'd have to wait another 8-9 blistering hot months until you had a chance at it again.

I began to loathe the spring and summer; humid, smelly, and those zebra mosquitoes were everywhere.

I feel that summer here is a similar experience to winter in many regions of Canada. The first couple months of hot humid weather is okay and you can get your fill of summer, by the third month you are more or less just dealing with it, by the fourth month of hot sticky weather you just want it to end...

[lio45]

Originally Posted by giallo

......for this come January.

xiaoliuqiao right

^^^ Oceanfront property in Maple Creek in January, right?


(Okay, I promise, if a year goes by without our friend from over there bragging about how tropical the place is, I'll drop the teasing.)

[lio45]

One thing I hate about this time of year in Quebec is that it's always a rush to finish exterior real estate improvements/projects as the window is closing really fast. And then whatever couldn't be done has to wait 6+ months. In FL we don't have that problem, and it's incredibly convenient. I've done roofing work in July/August over there (the worst season for it, obviously, but still perfectly doable)... by contrast if you realize something's leaking in Quebec in early winter you probably are going to have to (ask your tenants to) endure it until the next window of opportunity... next spring.

For a real life example from right now: we have to change two septic tank systems in FL very soon. Not sure when exactly I'll give them the green light, but there's no race against the clock. If this was Quebec it would absolutely have to be either right now or else (if I miss that boat) late next spring at the earliest.

[Nicko999]

Freeze List - 2019

1) - Whitehorse YT - September 9th, (-0.3C)
2) - Iqaluit NU - September 13th, (-0.1C)
3) - Saint John NB - September 18th (-0.7C)
4) - Moncton NB - September 19th (-0.3C)
5) - Fredericton NB - September 19th (-0.2C)
6) - Charlottetown PEI - September 19th (-0.2C)
7) - Yellowknife, NWT - September 24th (-0.1C)
8) - Calgary, AB - September 27th (-2.6C)
9) - Prince George, BC - September 27th (-0.3C)
10) - Edmonton, AB - September 27th (-0.2C)
11) - Regina, SK - September 28th (-3.3C)
12) - Lethbridge, AB - September 28th (-2.1C)
13) - Winnipeg, MB - September 28th (-1.3C)
14) - Sherbrooke, QC - September 29th (-0.2C)
15) - Kelowna, BC - October 1st (-1.7C)
16) - Kamloops, BC - October 1st (-0.2C)

Vancouver BC
Victoria BC
Saskatoon SK
Thunder Bay ON
Sudbury ON
Windsor ON
London ON
Toronto ON
Kingston ON
Ottawa ON
Montreal QC
Quebec City QC
Halifax NS
Sydney NS
Corner Brook NL
St. John's NL

Kamloops and Kelowna added to the list.

Saskatoon will be added tomorrow. After 5 days of escaping the freezing mark by decimals.

[MonctonRad]

Freeze list seems a bit topsy-turvy this year, with the early additions of cities in NB, PEI and the southern interior of BC,

[megadude]

Originally Posted by lio45

One thing I hate about this time of year in Quebec is that it's always a rush to finish exterior real estate improvements/projects as the window is closing really fast. And then whatever couldn't be done has to wait 6+ months. In FL we don't have that problem, and it's incredibly convenient. I've done roofing work in July/August over there (the worst season for it, obviously, but still perfectly doable)... by contrast if you realize something's leaking in Quebec in early winter you probably are going to have to (ask your tenants to) endure it until the next window of opportunity... next spring.

For a real life example from right now: we have to change two septic tank systems in FL very soon. Not sure when exactly I'll give them the green light, but there's no race against the clock. If this was Quebec it would absolutely have to be either right now or else (if I miss that boat) late next spring at the earliest.

I work in commercial real estate and we have loans on hundreds of apartment buildings in every province and territory, vast majority of them CMHC insured. As a condition of the CMHC insurance, mandatory repairs are often required and there is a timeline for when they must be done. Could be a few months, could be a couple of years.

We are the ones that have to follow up with the borrower on the status of the repairs. As the repairs are not strictly enforced we get borrowers procrastinating because they don't want to spend the money. If we contact them in September they'll say we'll it's getting too close to winter and we don't wanna rush the roof or balcony job or dig into the ground. It'll have to wait until spring.

[Nicko999]

13C and mainly cloudy conditions. In fact, I don't really know what the conditions were for most of the day. Morning and evening were overcast.

It was milder this morning at 15C actually.

The warmspot was Harrow, ON at 23.9C.
BTW-The low in Harrow was 21.1C. Nice tropical night in October.

In case you are wondering, Windsor had an even more impressive low of 20.8C on October 9th last year.

EDIT: The downpours we had yesterday were something... the total of 48.4 mm rain at Trudeau airport are the most in 1 day since August 16th, 2016.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by megadude

I work in commercial real estate and we have loans on hundreds of apartment buildings in every province and territory, vast majority of them CMHC insured. As a condition of the CMHC insurance, mandatory repairs are often required and there is a timeline for when they must be done. Could be a few months, could be a couple of years.

We are the ones that have to follow up with the borrower on the status of the repairs. As the repairs are not strictly enforced we get borrowers procrastinating because they don't want to spend the money. If we contact them in September they'll say we'll it's getting too close to winter and we don't wanna rush the roof or balcony job or dig into the ground. It'll have to wait until spring.

It may sound like an excuse but it's actually very true too (not saying it's not sometimes also a convenient reason to delay by ~6 months, don't get me wrong...)

One time, I've had the City force me to completely wrap up a balcony job in a heritage area downtown where they didn't want to let my building be a tiny bit of an eyesore until the following spring, and the (late Oct/early Nov) painting job turned out to be pretty much a total waste of both time and money (though it lasted long enough to pass the City's inspection at least...)

[giallo]

Finally starting to cool down in Seoul thanks to a weekday storm. It was starting to get pretty hazy in the city, but the rain pushed it away.

roaming 3 by Andrew Rochfort, on Flickr

[SignalHillHiker]

Still cold. Still 🞵🞵🞵🞵. I've lost hope that we will have any fall. We've just gone straight into winter.

[SignalHillHiker]

Ugh. Since I'm a glutton for punishment, decided to check the stats.

It's currently 4C.

Normal high for October 3 is 12.7C.
Normal low is 5.1C.
Record high is 22.1C (1988).
Record low is -1.6C (1979).

Saturday is supposed to be 6C and raining.

Normal high for that date (October 5) is 12.3C.
Normal low is 4.8C.
Record high is 22.8C (1961).
Record low is -1.1C (1955).

[mcminsen]

Overcast, dry, cool, calm. Wednesday's high at Vancouver Harbour was 15 C, the low was 10 C.




False Creek, Vancouver, Oct.2 '19, my pics

fullsizeoutput_8cd1 by mcminsen, on Flickr


fullsizeoutput_8cdc by mcminsen, on Flickr


fullsizeoutput_8cd8 by mcminsen, on Flickr


fullsizeoutput_8ce0 by mcminsen, on Flickr

[Acajack]

Cool 3-4C on the bike this morning. Was actually pretty nice as there was basically no wind.

Both Ottawa and Gatineau got down to 2C overnight. Forecast low was 3C.

[flar]

Cloudy and rainy again today, forecast high of 21.

Yesterday's high was 22.5 and the low yesterday morning was 20.2.

Tomorrow is the big cool down with a high of 14 and low of 9 predicted. That will likely bring our streak of 10C+ lows to an end.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by DrJoe

All I'm saying is clear sunny winter days don't seem too infrequent to me. I would guess December sees the least sunlight. The bright sunny days usually accompany arctic highs, milder days are overcast. London, ON seems to be an outlier even within Southern Ontario.

This is my take as well. I've lived in various places in all three Maritime provinces, Ontario and Quebec.

I never got the impression that the coastal places had significantly more bright sunny days in winter than more continental places in Ontario and Quebec.

At most it's a wash.

[SignalHillHiker]

Originally Posted by Acajack

This is my take as well. I've lived in various places in all three Maritime provinces, Ontario and Quebec.

I never got the impression that the coastal places had significantly more bright sunny days in winter than more continental places in Ontario and Quebec.

At most it's a wash.

I didn't notice a huge difference in the Maritimes or ON/QC (big city haze was the striking difference there; and, of course, more extreme heat and cold). But I really noticed a difference on the prairies. In Winnipeg, unless it was a storm, it was sunny. If I woke up in he morning and the sun wasn't shining, it was notable, I had to check if it was pouring or snowing or whatever else.

[stevanford1]

Rainy and 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Average people generally have a tolerance for temperatures that range between +35C and -20C. They also "need" at least a couple of months of reasonably summerlike weather during every year, and they don't want it to -40C all winter or +40C all summer.

That's a pretty wide window and almost all of inhabited Canada falls into that range.

I think we like to overplay the differences regarding our respective climates here on this forum. Based on these graphs, the BC coast is the only "real" outlier.

Every other region is subject to snow, extreme heat and extreme cold within the same windows, just at different degrees. The shape of the first 4 graphs are a good indication of that, they all look similar except that some regions will be enjoying spring earlier than others, winter will come earlier in other regions, but the lag is generally just 2 or 3 weeks and the differences are minor.

When we look at other cities around the world the pattern is completely different in regions with a more moderate climate.

[goodgrowth]

"I didn't bother to look at any stats but my gut tells it's pretty much the same"...again ground zero of where the ignorance and misconceptions about the differences in weather across the country come from

Vancouver
Cloud amount(hours with)

8-10 tenths(heavy cloud) 0-2 tenths (clear skies)
Nov 522.2 ---------------- Nov 93.6
Dec 542.9 ---------------- Dec 99.2
Jan 560.3 ---------------- Jan 92.8
Feb 454 ------------------ Feb 114
March 488.9 ------------- March 124.1


Calgary
Cloud amount(hours with)

8-10 tenths(heavy cloud) 0-2 tenths (clear skies)
Nov 375.8 ---------------- Nov 187.9
Dec 375.9 ---------------- Dec 202.6
Jan 391.3 ---------------- Jan 195.7
Feb 361.1 ---------------- Feb 175.5
March 412.1 ------------- March 161.4


Toronto
Cloud amount(hours with)

8-10 tenths(heavy cloud) 0-2 tenths (clear skies)
Nov 481.4 ---------------- Nov 129.7
Dec 520.2 ---------------- Dec 125.2
Jan 511.2 ---------------- Jan 139
Feb 427.6 ---------------- Feb 149.6
March 423.8 ------------- March 205.9


Fredericton
Cloud amount(hours with)

8-10 tenths(heavy cloud) 0-2 tenths(clear skies)
Nov 436.4 ---------------- Nov 151.9
Dec 400.6 ---------------- Dec 205.3
Jan 373.9 ---------------- Jan 237.6
Feb 342.5 ---------------- Feb 210
March 395.7 ------------- March 219

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by le calmar

I think we like to overplay the differences regarding our respective climates here on this forum. Based on these graphs, the BC coast is the only "real" outlier.

Every other region is subject to snow, extreme heat and extreme cold within the same windows, just at different degrees. The shape of the first 4 graphs are a good indication of that, they all look similar except that some regions will be enjoying spring earlier than others, winter will come earlier in other regions, but the lag is generally just 2 or 3 weeks and the differences are minor.

When we look at other cities around the world the pattern is completely different in regions with a more moderate climate.

Great illustrations!