The Ultimate Vancouver Rumour Thread!

[LeftCoaster]

Especially since you don't need 100% to force a sale anymore.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Let the rumours fly:

The strata corporation of 850 Burrard has put themselves up for sale, opening up prime sizable lot to redevelopment.

https://goo.gl/maps/GLMGRXSg71y7Kxtq7

Doubtful this goes tall with Robson Square adjacent but it is a very notable location.

Yeah, they kept Electric Avenue / Paramount Place short to prevent shadows over Robson Square.

[osirisboy]

Even the height of Electra should still see a huge increase in density

[Changing City]

Looking at the City's VanMap, it looks to me as if the residential strata lots are all an air right parcel on top of the parking shared with the office tower to the north, so it's going to be a complicated legal extraction to create a straightforward development opportunity. That older (1983) office building has a valuation over $200m, so it's not likely to redevelop. The adjacent 2-storey building appears to be in separate ownership, and it's probably impossible to develop on its own, but easy enough if incorporated with the residential site. That would be where the big density increase could occur. It was built in 1938 as a car garage and dealership, with rooftop parking.

The density here is 7.3FSR (because of the office) and Electric Avenue is 8.1FSR, so it would almost certainly have to be a rezoning if the office stays.

[Prometheus]

And the southern half of that block is smothered by the city's viewcone restrictions (less than 250 feet).

Given the city's intransigent stubbornness on its viewcone (and now shadow) restrictions, nothing transformative can be built here under current policy, in spite of its prime downtown location. I find it impossible to get excited about new developments on prime downtown sites that are far less consequential than projects built generations earlier.

Thanks for the info, though.

[Metro-One]

Hate to agree but I feel the same.

There are only a few lots in downtown where any rumor would give me true excitement.

Even several traditionally mid rise European cities have built / are building / proposing taller buildings than Vancouver, not to mention the rest of North America, Australia and Asia.

These days in regards to height a rumor in the suburbs gets me more interested.

This is not to say that there aren’t many fantastic mid rise projects underway and that I don’t appreciate the few taller towers that are U/C and proposed downtown, but the peninsula really does need a handful of towers taller than the Shanghai-La. Even just 2 or 3 would do wonders for the skyline and big city feel of downtown.

My perfect scenario would be a tallest around 260m (preferably office)

2nd around 230m

3rd around 215m

4th Shanghai-La

[bb1510]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

And the southern half of that block is smothered by the city's viewcone restrictions (less than 250 feet).

Given the city's intransigent stubbornness on its viewcone (and now shadow) restrictions, nothing transformative can be built here under current policy, in spite of its prime downtown location. I find it impossible to get excited about new developments on prime downtown sites that are far less consequential than projects built generations earlier.

Thanks for the info, though.

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[bb1510]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

If there's a restaurant at the top floor, it'll almost be like the Empire Landmark never left!

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[Feathered Friend]

Several sources are saying to expect a busy Fall. There are more MIRHPPs coming, and expect to see a few towers in Vancouver, mid / upper 20s in floor count, be made public soon.

[ranvancan]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

Several sources are saying to expect a busy Fall. There are more MIRHPPs coming, and expect to see a few towers in Vancouver, mid / upper 20s in floor count, be made public soon.

OH BOY!!!!! Sky Towers.......and upper 20s in floor count. We are a mega metropolous now.
Sorry FF, not worth the click for me on Rumour Thread.

[Metro-One]

I’m split. On one hand there are not strict rules for this thread and it is nice for someone to keep it alive.

On the other hand, it kind of is reserved for major announcements (towers over 150m / new tallest / etc...).

[scryer]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I’m split. On one hand there are not strict rules for this thread and it is nice for someone to keep it alive.

On the other hand, it kind of is reserved for major announcements (towers over 150m / new tallest / etc...).

Well with all the loud NIMBY's around, I think that we should start to seriously consider lowering the bar on rumours for major announcements. 2022 will be the year where we will absolutely lose our minds over an 8fl proposal in the downtown core lol.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

On the other hand, it kind of is reserved for major announcements (towers over 150m / new tallest / etc...).

Maybe that's how you view it, but the thread, as stated on the initial post, is for rumours of "Both the midgets and the tall freaks!"

If you want a new tall rumour I know of a previously undiscussed 150m+ tower in development for downtown. Not a new tallest or anything but definitely a tower of note.

[GenWhy?]

Rumblings that the Granville strip heights might be adjusted in some areas...

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

If you want a new tall rumour I know of a previously undiscussed 150m+ tower in development for downtown. Not a new tallest or anything but definitely a tower of note.

Thanks. Commercial or residential?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Maybe that's how you view it, but the thread, as stated on the initial post, is for rumours of "Both the midgets and the tall freaks!"

If you want a new tall rumour I know of a previously undiscussed 150m+ tower in development for downtown. Not a new tallest or anything but definitely a tower of note.

Is it possible you might let us in on it in the near future? Sounds exciting. I just hope the design is sleek. Thank you.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Is it possible you might let us in on it in the near future? Sounds exciting. I just hope the design is sleek. Thank you.

Not my project, but I'm sure the developers will be making their plans public one of these days.

[Melroy]

Is there any rumor of Vancouver getting a highrise that's over 700' someday. Not Surrey or some other place out in the middle of nowhere, but Vancouver the city?

[logan5]

There is only speculation. There are very few sites where view cones and height restrictions will allow a tower up to, but not above 700'. The City will allow towers that exceed height restrictions under special circumstances, such as a major heritage retention project. When St. Paul's is redeveloped, there will be costly heritage retention component to this. The city will likely allow heights well above what would normally be allowed. Likely well above 700'. But again, that is pure speculation at this point, and this is years away.

[bb1510]

Originally Posted by Melroy

Is there any rumor of Vancouver getting a highrise that's over 700' someday. Not Surrey or some other place out in the middle of nowhere, but Vancouver the city?

No comment but refer to the posts which I deleted above and the original posts