Edmonton Construction 13 (November 2015) - Page 709

itom 987 · #**14161** Posted **Sep 17, 2019, 11:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Visioning workshop this morning at City Hall for 103 Avenue between 100-101st.

https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_plans/roads/design_planning/103-avenue-streetscape.aspx

The only thing that needs 'visioning' is what to do with the impark lot on 101 St. and 103A Ave. I don't think we should be beautifying streets that have surface parking lots, as it is exactly what the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 that own those parking lots want. Those surface parking lot owners made life for Edmontonians miserable for a very long time, it's about time we turned the tables around and made their lives miserable.

kcantor · #**14162** Posted **Sep 17, 2019, 11:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by itom 987

The only thing that needs 'visioning' is what to do with the impark lot on 101 St. and 103A Ave. I don't think we should be beautifying streets that have surface parking lots, as it is exactly what the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 that own those parking lots want. Those surface parking lot owners made life for Edmontonians miserable for a very long time, it's about time we turned the tables around and made their lives miserable.

i'm pretty sure any beautification efforts would be addressed to the thousands of people who walk those sidewalks every day or look at them every day, not the person that owns the parking lot.

itom 987 · #**14163** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 12:07 AM**

The people that own those parking lots that had beautified streets see their property value rise. Those same beautified streets still offer no reason for anyone to go there, offering little return on investment. You will see better return on investment on streets that have no surface parking lots.

kcantor · #**14164** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 12:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by itom 987

The people that own those parking lots that had beautified streets see their property value rise. Those same beautified streets still offer no reason for anyone to go there, offering little return on investment. You will see better return on investment on streets that have no surface parking lots.

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that's not actually the case here though is it? it's already a pretty busy pedestrian corridor and the surface parking lot fronts less that a quarter of its length.

itom 987 · #**14165** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 1:23 AM**

25% surface parking lot is still too much. Revera Retirement Living ignores the street. The same goes for the City of Edmonton Assessment review board, Subdivision & Development review board, Community Standards & Licence Appeal committee. (Gee, no wonder why this workshop is happening) City Centre Mall ignores the street except for the MNP Tower entrance. The only building that activates the street is the Main Street rental tower. If the city wants to extend "Oiler Way" then do it the same way it was done in the ice district but I wouldn't go ahead on it until something happens with that parking lot and commitments are made from the Seniors residence and City Centre Mall to activate the street.

SHOFEAR · #**14166** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 1:34 PM**

These types of improvements should be addressed by a local improvement charge on adjacent property.

If it's above and beyond maintenance and replacement of like for like, let the locals pay for it.

kcantor · #**14167** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by SHOFEAR

These types of improvements should be addressed by a local improvement charge on adjacent property.

If it's above and beyond maintenance and replacement of like for like, let the locals pay for it.

aren't all edmontonians local???

Coldrsx · #**14168** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 3:15 PM**

Unrealized examines the lesser-known projects that would have shaped Edmonton, and the reasons they did not become a reality.

About this Event
You can learn as much about a city from its existing buildings as you can from the ones that never made it past the drafting table.

Join us for the Unrealized grand opening event as part of Edmonton Design Week. View the newest exhibit produced by Media Architecture Design Edmonton (MADE) and close out a packed week celebrating Edmonton's design accomplishments with this final event!

Cash Bar | Refreshments | 18+

Info/tickets
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/unrealized-e...tickets-72853949123?aff=ebdssbdestsearch

rapid_business · #**14169** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 5:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

They have begun swapping out the dark blue glass at Quest, for transparent glazing on the podium.

...more to come

I saw that yesterday. That has been one of my biggest pet-peeves for a long time. It was terrible for the businesses and pedestrians alike.

What is happening there?

Coldrsx · #**14170** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 5:51 PM**

The podium was sold to a new owner... a very good thing... more to come.

s211 · #**14171** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 6:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Unrealized examines the lesser-known projects that would have shaped Edmonton, and the reasons they did not become a reality.

About this Event
You can learn as much about a city from its existing buildings as you can from the ones that never made it past the drafting table.

Join us for the Unrealized grand opening event as part of Edmonton Design Week. View the newest exhibit produced by Media Architecture Design Edmonton (MADE) and close out a packed week celebrating Edmonton's design accomplishments with this final event!

Cash Bar | Refreshments | 18+

Info/tickets
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/unrealized-e...tickets-72853949123?aff=ebdssbdestsearch

Sounds interesting. I wish I were there to check it out.

Coldrsx · #**14172** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 7:40 PM**

Capital
A few shots from yesterday:

https://twitter.com/IanOyeg/status/1174407478479470593
@ianoyeg

s4.audios · #**14173** Posted **Sep 18, 2019, 11:39 PM**

Wow those window frames are huge.....

Sheesh if trying to go for same size as the existing building, at least make them span across as well.

Worst retrofit (and addition)... and on Capital Blvd, such a shame.

Hardhatdan · #**14174** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 12:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Capital
A few shots from yesterday:

https://twitter.com/IanOyeg/status/1174407478479470593
@ianoyeg

Is that wood framing on the new portion? What the heck.

Coldrsx · #**14175** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 1:34 AM**

Under 6 storeys will almost always be wood. Economics.

CMD UW · #**14176** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 3:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Under 6 storeys will almost always be wood. Economics.

Yes, exactly. And there's nothing 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 wrong with it. Yes believe it or not in beloved Vancouver most low-rises are wood frame.

Coldrsx · #**14177** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 3:41 PM**

https://thegriff.ca/2019/09/revitalization-for-whom/

DOWNTOWN UNCATEGORIZED
Revitalization for whom?
How the reality of Rogers Place differs from its original proposal
JACKSON SPRIN

hree years after its opening, it seems the dust has settled around Rogers Place. It has not taken long for the arena to establish itself as an integral part of the downtown scene — in spite of the constant construction around it. Droves of people now stream in and out of the doors on a semi-daily basis, since there are several events held there on any given week, all of which are guaranteed to draw a crowd of one fandom or another, and the selection of built-in amenities has been concocted specifically to provide for all of one’s needs over the course of a night out.

s4.audios · #**14178** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 4:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

Yes, exactly. And there's nothing 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 wrong with it. Yes believe it or not in beloved Vancouver most low-rises are wood frame.

Yah, totally agree, nothing wrong with wood frame.... in Oliver, Queen Mary, Boyle Street, etc..

But right in the heart of downtown? On Capital blvd and practically right on Jasper ave....

It's a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 project all in all. And IMO kinda sheds light on downtown's attractiveness for investors to do business when comparing to what Strategic is building in Calgary as we speak.

s211 · #**14179** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 5:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by s4.audios

Yah, totally agree, nothing wrong with wood frame.... in Oliver, Queen Mary, Boyle Street, etc..

But right in the heart of downtown? On Capital blvd and practically right on Jasper ave....

It's a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 project all in all. And IMO kinda sheds light on downtown's attractiveness for investors to do business when comparing to what Strategic is building in Calgary as we speak.

The rendering of the low rise portion in and of itself looks firmly suburban, and in a cheap way.

kcantor · #**14180** Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

Yes, exactly. And there's nothing 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 wrong with it. Yes believe it or not in beloved Vancouver most low-rises are wood frame.

true enough... but i don't think you'll find too many new wood frame buildings in downtown vancouver.

or downtown burnaby or downtown surrey for that matter.

even much if the new product in the broadway and main street corridors is migrating from frame to concrete not because of code as much as because of market expectations. both in the condo market and in the purpose built rental market, the available end premiums for better quality product justify the added cost (which is a much smaller differential now than it used to be).