stal̕əw̓asəm (Riverview) Bridge (Pattullo Bridge Replacement) | U/C

[libtard]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

Well it was the widest bridge in the world for a brief period of time. That doesn't exactly shout "underbuilt" to me...

That’s because if you look at the new Oakland bay bridge the opposing lanes are on two separate bridges and then on a double decker section. So it could never be counted as one bridge or else it would definitely be wider than the new port mann

[retro_orange]

Pattullo Bridge replacement clears environmental assessment, on track to start construction this year Sean Boynton

The Pattullo Bridge replacement has cleared another hurdle that keeps it on track to start construction later this year.

B.C.’s environment and municipal affairs ministries awarded the Ministry of Transportation an environmental assessment certificate for the $1.4-billion project Thursday after the environmental assessment office (EAO) recommended giving the green light.

“The ministers are confident that construction, demolition, and operational activities would be conducted in a way that ensures that no significant adverse effects are likely to occur,” the ministries said in a joint statement.

Construction is expected to start this summer, with the replacement opening by 2023 to the roughly 68,000 vehicles that use the bridge daily.

The new four-lane bridge is planned to be constructed 100 metres upstream and roughly parallel with the existing crossing that connects Surrey to New Westminster and which has stood for more than 80 years.

The plans include separated cycling and pedestrian paths on both sides while keeping direct connections to King George Boulevard in Surrey and McBride Boulevard in New Westminster. New ramps will be constructed to connect to Highway 17 and East Columbia Street.

“The new bridge will make it easier and safer for people to cross the Fraser River whether driving, cycling or walking,” Transportation Minister Claire Trevena said in a statement.

“The environmental assessment certificate is a significant step for the project and will set out the conditions of how the new bridge will be designed and built. As we move ahead to the next stage, it is important to continue meaningful consultation and engagement with Indigenous groups and local communities.”

The certificate comes with 20 legally binding conditions, including assuring minimal impacts on fish, wildlife, and the area’s marine and fishery industries. Construction and demolition environmental management plans are also required.

The conditions listed in the decision will require further consultations with Indigenous groups, who will also be included in a monitoring plan. The EAO consulted with 14 Indigenous groups while writing its initial report.

The Ministry of Transportation is still required to obtain other federal, provincial and local permits, along with project and environmental review permits from the Vancouver Fraser Port Authority.

The project is set to be built through the province’s new and controversial community benefits agreement (CBA), which prioritizes local, First Nations, women, and apprentice workers on the job, while requiring all contractors to use union labour.

The province has yet to choose a contractor for the replacement but has narrowed the selection down to three project teams.

Among the firms involved in the teams are SNC-Lavalin — which is largely responsible for the region’s SkyTrain infrastructure — and Kiewit, which led the construction of the new Port Mann Bridge.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5234752/pattullo-bridge-replacement-environmental-assessment/

[officedweller]

SNC-Lavalin drops out of the running for Broadway Subway and Pattullo Bridge contracts
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/snc-lavalin-broadway-subway-july-2019

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by officedweller

SNC-Lavalin drops out of the running for Broadway Subway and Pattullo Bridge contracts
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/snc-lavalin-broadway-subway-july-2019

good. the only thing to come out of Quebec is corruption anyways.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

good. the only thing to come out of Quebec is corruption anyways.

That sounds a little discriminatory

[retro_orange]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

That sounds a little discriminatory

Lol, see their immigration fraud scheme where they keep all the profits from the Immigrant investment program where people buy their way into residency and most end up in BC or Ontario who get to foot the bill for the extra services they require while reaping no benefit.

Rich investors granted Canadian residency despite suspicions of fake documents and dubious assets

Special immigration track meant to lure wealthy to Quebec sees most end up in B.C., Ontario

Some rich foreigners seeking Canadian residency under a special Quebec program for wealthy investors couldn't point to the province on a map, while others submitted fake documents or disguised their assets — yet many of them were still accepted for immigration, former civil servants say.

The officials, charged with administering the Quebec Immigrant Investor Program (QIIP), say they were sometimes pressured into ignoring signs that applicants' fortunes were founded on corruption or other ill-gotten gains.

"It's a program that has lots of gaps, that permits people with dubious or even illicit business to launder money through the program and to buy themselves citizenship inexpensively," said one former immigration officer...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebec-immigrant-investor-program-civil-servants-1.4830231

[red-paladin]

Let's drop the SNC Lavalin and Quebec topics

[dharper]

When are they going to start building this damn thing, or at least have some construction info on the website. The website is basically a 'brochure' of the project.

[flipper316]

Originally Posted by dharper

When are they going to start building this damn thing, or at least have some construction info on the website. The website is basically a 'brochure' of the project.

Who knows Probably been "delayed" like the Massey bridge in favour of more studies.

[Cypherus]

Originally Posted by flipper316

Who knows Probably been "delayed" like the Massey bridge in favour of more studies.

I believe they are doing a study, of the studies that were done prior...

[dharper]

They sure wasted enough money advertising it on the radio, along with Horgan's 'friend and family', construction deal.

[DKaz]

Has traffic reduced significantly since the removal of the Port Mann Bridge tolls that four lanes will be good enough, especially with wider lanes? I remember how bad it was in 2014-15 when it was the only option on my 49cc scooter.

[s211]

Originally Posted by dharper

When are they going to start building this damn thing, or at least have some construction info on the website. The website is basically a 'brochure' of the project.

Probably trying to figure out how much more money they can direct to union endeavours without the public finding out.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by dharper

When are they going to start building this damn thing, or at least have some construction info on the website. The website is basically a 'brochure' of the project.

That's what I'd like to know, too, exactly. Can't they at least find consensus on key iissues, finalize the design, and somehow quit quibbling abd debating, and just get on with it.
Or is that asking for too much?

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

That's what I'd like to know, too, exactly. Can't they at least find consensus on key iissues, finalize the design, and somehow quit quibbling abd debating, and just get on with it.

Or is that asking for too much?

its politics, it IS asking too much.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

its politics, it IS asking too much.

PHOOEY!! but thanks for the response. Looking at the render:



https://images.dailyhive.com/20180103133021/new-pattullo-bridge-f.jpg


It has no provision for future rail transit, and is still only 4 langes wide, despite oh! bravo the bike lanes! Pls excuse the facetiousness, but it is not long-term-conceived.
Or ... what is that space down the middle for? If for transit, or extra lanes, I retract my criticism. (it just doesn't seem quite wide enough, somehow, correct me if I'm wrong)

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

PHOOEY!! but thanks for the response. Looking at the render:



https://images.dailyhive.com/20180103133021/new-pattullo-bridge-f.jpg


It has no provision for future rail transit, and is still only 4 langes wide, despite oh! bravo the bike lanes! Pls excuse the facetiousness, but it is not long-term-conceived.
Or ... what is that space down the middle for? If for transit, or extra lanes, I retract my criticism. (it just doesn't seem quite wide enough, somehow, correct me if I'm wrong)

space down the middle is the cables, it wont be for anything else. to expand to 6 lanes, they would need to cantilever off the sides such as below.


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/new-pattullo-bridge-replacement-surrey-new-westminster

[osirisboy]

I wonder how many ppl would be walking over the bridge

[Mininari]

How much extra would it cost them to just build the extra cantilevered width NOW, and just provide extra-wide pedestrian and cycling facilities until the 2 extra lanes are needed, and save everyone the dreaded 18-month, single-lane construction closures for the expansion.

(And probably a few ten's of millions in construction inflation?)

[Metro-One]

Yeah, opening with 4 lanes (and especially without the potential expansion pre-built) is asinine.

At the very least it should be opening with 5 lanes.

2 northbound, 3 southbound (the third south bound being an add drop between the west to southbound on ramp from Columbia and the off ramp to SFPR west.

Just one glance at the diagrams and it becomes obvious.

Also still dismayed with the loss of the Surrey side interchange. (Surrey also isn't happy with that).