Phoenix Development News (3)

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Creighton tower crane going up today

[xymox]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Been watching on the webcam - which unfortunately doesn't show us the top of the crane...

Let's get a couple more of those cranes up in midtown!

Is this the first tower crane midtown since the end of the 90s?

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by xymox

Been watching on the webcam - which unfortunately doesn't show us the top of the crane...

Let's get a couple more of those cranes up in midtown!

Is this the first tower crane midtown since the end of the 90s?

I do believe so...with any significant height anyway which is about as tall as the Wexford crane. So pretty decent for an 8 story building.

Obadno, your pic is almost the exact opposite direction that I took mine!



Also took a closer one when I was having lunch at Pita Jungle:

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by azliam

That's fucked up. I see X Phoenix on their webpage, but no Cambria nor Kenect.

Here's the new webcam page replacing UEB's. Update your bookmarks!
https://www.katerra.com/webcams/

[azliam]

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Here's the new webcam page replacing UEB's. Update your bookmarks!
https://www.katerra.com/webcams/

Awesome, thanks!

[MAPAZ]

Friends,
A latest version of the Downtown Phoenix high-rise map... updated with recent and 'proposed' projects.

https://imgur.com/a/TIbhRrj

Enjoy... and as always, comments, criticisms and corrections are welcomed.
Thanks
MAPAZ

[PHX-DUDE-MAN]

Found an interesting article from AZCentral from April 8, 2019. The article title: "Why doesn't downtown Phoenix have more skyscrapers?"

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loc...ine-empire-state-sears-tower/3332681002/

I thought the article was good and the city seems to be moving in the right direction now with urbanization.

[FireMedic]

Originally Posted by MAPAZ

Friends,
A latest version of the Downtown Phoenix high-rise map... updated with recent and 'proposed' projects.

https://imgur.com/a/TIbhRrj

Enjoy... and as always, comments, criticisms and corrections are welcomed.
Thanks
MAPAZ

Awesome !! Need one for Tempe

[Obadno]

Interesting Development

Big brand new FOR SALE sign up at the Northwest corner of Indian School and Central

Looks like Toll Brothers is going to offload that piece of land rather than build a high rise.

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Interesting Development

Big brand new FOR SALE sign up at the Northwest corner of Indian School and Central

Looks like Toll Brothers is going to offload that piece of land rather than build a high rise.

Doesn't surprise me. Downtown and Midtown are just not their cup if tea IMO. I'm wondering if they'll sell off the lot on Thomas now?

[combusean]

^ They would have to be too far off in the development process to bail on Thomas.

On Indian School, I bet the money they're willing to put into it just doesn't match what will get approved.

[TJPHXskyscraperfan]

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

I do believe so...with any significant height anyway which is about as tall as the Wexford crane. So pretty decent for an 8 story building.

Obadno, your pic is almost the exact opposite direction that I took mine!



Also took a closer one when I was having lunch at Pita Jungle:

Pita Jungle?

[pbenjamin]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Interesting Development

Big brand new FOR SALE sign up at the Northwest corner of Indian School and Central

Looks like Toll Brothers is going to offload that piece of land rather than build a high rise.

They are on the agenda for tomorrow night's Encanto VPC meeting. No new information in the packet, same staff report as for the previous meetings. Their plans did not include a high rise, just stick and stucco apartments surrounding surface parking.

[pbenjamin]

Originally Posted by Obadno

Interesting Development

Big brand new FOR SALE sign up at the Northwest corner of Indian School and Central

Looks like Toll Brothers is going to offload that piece of land rather than build a high rise.

They are on the agenda for tomorrow night's Encanto VPC meeting. No new information in the packet, same staff report as for the previous meetings. Their plans did not include a high rise, just stick and stucco apartments surrounding surface parking.

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-18-19.pdf

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by pbenjamin

They are on the agenda for tomorrow night's Encanto VPC meeting. No new information in the packet, same staff report as for the previous meetings. Their plans did not include a high rise, just stick and stucco apartments surrounding surface parking.

https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Documents/PZ/Z-18-19.pdf

It looks like they pushed the thing more to the street, this would be a massive complex regardless of height.

You'd think Toll could at least make the building facing Central and Indian School a little bigger, like bump it to 8 or 9 stories and have the rest of the project stair step down.

[combusean]

I hate this project and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by combusean

I hate this project and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

If history is any guide when it comes to Toll Brothers this lot will sit empty for another 12 years.

[combusean]

They should listen to me.

First, I'd extend 2nd Avenue and 1st Avenue and create the 4100 block of 2nd Drive. I'd get with the Station on Central to turn their fire lane into a public street with the City's help. Abundant townhouse units facing the interior streets. This block is too big and the garbage parking plan is partly from their necessity for fire access. Once you add an internal private street it's easy to do tuck under parking or a long line of stalls or make it full on surface like the current uninvested BS.

On the hard corner of Indian School and Central I'd honestly consider building a gas station/Tesla thing with a Circle K similar to the Louden Center on Camelback. Fueling in back to provide convenience retail as a pedestrian amenity and steal from QT's monopoly since the Chevron was torn down. Not a huge amount of office on top, but something to test the market with the enormous floorplates available on that new block. I'd make sure I could add some floors later up to about 250' or so.

I'd lay out a strip of retail and restaurant uses on the hard corners of the new 1st Ave, 2nd Ave, and 2nd Dr extensions. I'd probably make the block between 1st Ave and 2nd Ave a concrete condo courtyard design similar to Skyline Lofts, the sort of thing does not exist in Phoenix.

Between 3rd Ave and 2nd Ave, I'd break that up and do one side midrise concrete apartments matching the condo complex to save on design and on the fourth block facing 3rd Ave, I'd strongly consider large format retail like something that could support a Whole Foods and amenitize the generic apartments like Tempe's The Local.

[somethingfast]

Is that BofA building remodeled??? I don't think I remember seeing that building as it looks in those pics.

[vwwolfe]

Originally Posted by somethingfast

Is that BofA building remodeled??? I don't think I remember seeing that building as it looks in those pics.

They remodeled it a couple of years and added LED lighting strips to the outside of it.