Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service 1.0

[chronicsurfer]

https://twitter.com/JLeiper/status/1167182914657894401

[jchilds72]

https://www.octranspo.com/en/news/article/welcome-aboard/

The table has no service on Line 1 between 9:30pm-11pm Mon-Fri?

[Corvulpes]

Originally Posted by jchilds72

https://www.octranspo.com/en/news/article/welcome-aboard/

The table has no service on Line 1 between 9:30pm-11pm Mon-Fri?

There is a gradual reduction of service through that time so it's more frequent than 15 minutes but not guaranteed at a specific time interval.

[CityTech]

For Friday and Saturday its listed at 8 minutes until 2am, but 9:30 to 11:00 is still listed as blank. Does it ramp down from 5 minutes to 8 minutes? Seems like a long time just to phase down 3 minutes?

[J.OT13]

Rail grinding at Scott Street trench starting this weekend.

Rail grinding is set to begin even as soon as this weekend on the LRT line - one of the potential mitigations for the elevated noise levels being experienced by some Mechanicsville and Hintonburg residents. Please click on the attached .pdf attached notice for more details.

I had the opportunity this morning to press our city manager about the LRT noise in this location, and continue to be confident that the City is taking this issue seriously, including incorporating lessons learned into Stage 2.

http://kitchissippiward.ca/content/lrt-rail-grinding-commence-soon

[Gat-Train]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Rail grinding at Scott Street trench starting this weekend.


http://kitchissippiward.ca/content/lrt-rail-grinding-commence-soon

Why don’t they just plant grass on the guideway? Plenty of light rail lines have that.

[mxg308]

I never understood why the city hasn't considered using the tracks that the city owns through Kanata North. You could extend the confederation line 1 km further from Moodie Station to the railroad junction and run a FLIRT back and forth for the 5km to March and Carling or if you really want to get creative you could relay a few km of track on the Beachburg subdivision and create a small stop around Terry Fox and March Valley/Helmsdale Dr. If you really wanted to get ambitious maybe even lay some track and create a small spur to Innovation Park & Ride. What that would create is direct access to the two major employment centres on either side of March Road. You have a stop near Ciena and you would have a stop near Ericsson and Nokia.

Right now we know that CN wants to abandon Beachburg and whatever else is left in Ottawa and Nylene only runs a train once a week usually on Wednesday's so I don't really see any conflict. The real question would then become: what is the state of track? If it's only class 1 or 2, how much would it cost to bring it up to class 3? Depending on cost, this could be a pilot project just like the original O-Train.

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by mxg308

I never understood why the city hasn't considered using the tracks that the city owns through Kanata North. You could extend the confederation line 1 km further from Moodie Station to the railroad junction and run a FLIRT back and forth for the 5km to March and Carling or if you really want to get creative you could relay a few km of track on the Beachburg subdivision and create a small stop around Terry Fox and March Valley/Helmsdale Dr. If you really wanted to get ambitious maybe even lay some track and create a small spur to Innovation Park & Ride. What that would create is direct access to the two major employment centres on either side of March Road. You have a stop near Ciena and you would have a stop near Ericsson and Nokia.

Right now we know that CN wants to abandon Beachburg and whatever else is left in Ottawa and Nylene only runs a train once a week usually on Wednesday's so I don't really see any conflict. The real question would then become: what is the state of track? If it's only class 1 or 2, how much would it cost to bring it up to class 3? Depending on cost, this could be a pilot project just like the original O-Train.

The City owns the right of way, but the tracks belong to Nylene IIRC.

Kanata North is a nice terminus for a line like that, but where would you expect people to be getting on at the other end? The track dips too far south of most other major transit corridors for there to be an efficient transfer point other than maybe Greenboro.. The best place might be Bell's Corners, but there's no good place to build a good transfer station type thing without stepping into the Greenbelt which may be a no-no.

The track is pretty poor. It's only really maintained at the bare minimum for freight use. Some very rough estimates on the commuter rail page put such a pilot at $5-10 million per kilometre.

If you'd need to shuffle everyone down to Bell's Corners, and with LRT on the way, what ends up being the point?

I'd like that rail to be used for something like this, but the city in its current state would never take that kind of risk even for a pilot.

[mxg308]

Originally Posted by OCCheetos

The City owns the right of way, but the tracks belong to Nylene IIRC.

Kanata North is a nice terminus for a line like that, but where would you expect people to be getting on at the other end? The track dips too far south of most other major transit corridors for there to be an efficient transfer point other than maybe Greenboro.. The best place might be Bell's Corners, but there's no good place to build a good transfer station type thing without stepping into the Greenbelt which may be a no-no.

The track is pretty poor. It's only really maintained at the bare minimum for freight use. Some very rough estimates on the commuter rail page put such a pilot at $5-10 million per kilometre.

If you'd need to shuffle everyone down to Bell's Corners, and with LRT on the way, what ends up being the point?

I'd like that rail to be used for something like this, but the city in its current state would never take that kind of risk even for a pilot.

I guess I'm my little scenario you would extend the current Confederation Line about 1km further so it would meet the track at around 1/3 down Corkstown next to 417W. You would still have your bus loop at Moodie Station but for those going to Kanata North they would go 1km further at a transfer only station I guess.

[OCCheetos]

A great thread on Twitter from Ken Woods on a lot of the work that's been done in the last two years to get the Confederation Line up and running. It includes some very neat pictures and videos.

https://twitter.com/drivesincircles/status/1168175386984964096

[Norman Bates]

Another Confederation Line rail operator’s twitter feed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/brent68075343

[Corvulpes]

I believe Ken is no longer an operator. He has moved up.

[pattherat]

Originally Posted by Corvulpes

I believe Ken is no longer an operator. He has moved up.

He is both.

[DarthVader_1961]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/comfort-commute-public-transit-health-1.5258299

[J.OT13]

Memo: Achievement of the Revenue Service Availability for the O-Train Confederation Line

Shane Seguin Tuesday, September 03, 2019
O-Train Fans



The City of Ottawa media relations has just released the following memo regarding RSA.

The purpose of this memorandum is to advise Mayor and Members of Council that the Rideau Transit Group (RTG) has achieved Revenue Service Availability for the O-Train Confederation Line.

Rideau Transit Group (RTG) submitted their notice for the Revenue Service Availability (RSA) milestone on August 30, 2019, which includes the required verification by the City's Independent Safety Auditor (ISA) that compliance with safety requirements for the RSA milestone has been met.

Following receipt of the RSA notice, the City issued an opinion to the Independent Certifier indicating that requirements of this milestone have been achieved. Pending completion of final open items and documentation that the City requires just prior to public launch, any remaining work will be tracked as minor deficiencies for completion within six months. A further follow up on procedures and documentation will be completed by the ISA as the final step in their safety verification just prior to public service.

The Independent Certifier reviewed RTG's notice and the City's opinion this weekend and certified that the requirements for the Revenue Service Availability milestone were achieved as of August 30, 2019.

As announced by Mayor Watson last week, the service launch date for the public is Saturday, September 14, 2019. Staff continue to undertake the operational readiness activities required to ensure that the Confederation Line seamlessly integrates into the OC Transpo network prior to opening day, including additional City-led system practice, simulated system operations and staff training.

We are looking forward to launching the system to our City. Our priority remains to provide Ottawa with a safe, reliable and world-class transit system and to protect the interests of Ottawa residents and transit users.

​Source : City of Ottawa

https://www.otrainfans.ca/news/memo-achi...ility-for-the-o-train-confederation-line

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

We haven't built rail past the Greenbelt yet.

Yet. With Stage 2 we are.

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

We originally orient all suburbs towards cars. That is the big problem. We build rail too late, therefore, you can't really influence the design of suburbs. Complain all you want about developers but they have to provide what the market wants otherwise they are out of business.

They build what’s profitable. Not necessarily what the market wants. Just look at shoebox condos in the downtown cores of any city. There’s active criticism elsewhere that this is a direct result of developer insisting that every floor of a condo net $2-3 million instead of $1-2 million.

Moreover, you don’t need rail to build transit-friendly development. These developers don’t even build suburban neighbourhoods that are pedestrian and bus friendly. Transit-oriented development doesn’t have to just be rail. And using the lack of rail as an excuse, just shows what bad faith actors developers are.

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

The more you restrict housing development, the higher the price of housing everywhere in the city. It forces price conscious people to go even further out and commute even longer distances. Nobody wins.

I get it now. You’re a boomer who really doesn’t think about climate change at all. It’s why you think that it’s a god given right to have a two storey house on 0.1 acres for a quarter million. There’s no way to have compact, livable cities that are half decent for the planet and low density suburban homes for cheap. It’s one or the other. And quite frankly, I don’t want to live in the Boomer’s fucked up paradise where they call mind-numbingly boring auto parks “residential neighbhourhoods”.

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

If we take draconian measures to force people to live in the inner city, do you think Westboro and the Glebe would remain what they are today? Property prices would sky rocket and demolition would accelerate. The wealthier home owners will leave for more stable locations. You can't claim that the status quo would remain when interfering with market forces.

So you’re saying the rich snobs in Westboro and the Glebe would leave and make room for working class families who would regularly walk and use transit? I fail to see the downside here.

[J.OT13]

Quick comparison of the Lyon Station concourse rendering vs. reality.


https://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/the-build/lyon/gallery/#jp-carousel-13771


https://www.otrainfans.ca/forum/gallery/image/94-lyon-station-concourse/?context=new

Close, but something went horribly wrong with the ceiling!!

Still a very impressive space, but I wonder if the destruction of the wood salvaged from the dead ash trees contributed to the value-engineered ceilings, particularly at the Lyon and Rideau caverns.

[lrt's friend]

So you’re saying the rich snobs in Westboro and the Glebe would leave and make room for working class families who would regularly walk and use transit? I fail to see the downside here.

I don't see the economics working that way, unless we are letting those neighbourhoods decline into rot. As it stands, we are building expensive condos particularly in Westboro, which will move the area further away from affordability. Increasingly, working class families have to live in the suburbs. The alternative is substandard housing in rundown old buildings. We will not see a lot of low rent community housing built next to the Confederation Line. The land is too valuable for housing that will not generate a profit for a developer.

[lrt's friend]

They build what’s profitable. Not necessarily what the market wants. Just look at shoebox condos in the downtown cores of any city. There’s active criticism elsewhere that this is a direct result of developer insisting that every floor of a condo net $2-3 million instead of $1-2 million.

Moreover, you don’t need rail to build transit-friendly development. These developers don’t even build suburban neighbourhoods that are pedestrian and bus friendly. Transit-oriented development doesn’t have to just be rail. And using the lack of rail as an excuse, just shows what bad faith actors developers are.

You build what the market wants, which goes hand and hand with profitability. Developers need both. They are not building a 50 storey luxury condo in Orleans, if buyers are not interested in buying at that location.

We see how much TOD is built based on an hourly bus service, typical in suburbs.

Cyrville is very suburban, in many ways, the worst of surburban for the most part. It is very fortunate that it is in line with the Confederation Line. If that was replaced with the low frequency Pineview bus route, there would be little incentive to consider plans to intensify the area.

[rocketphish]

Rideau Transit Group’s work on the Confederation Line LRT is officially complete

By: Craig Lord, OBJ
Published: Sep 3, 2019 12:38pm EDT

After four missed deadlines and more than six years of work, the consortium building Ottawa’s light-rail transit line received the all-clear that substantial construction on the city’s $2.1-billion LRT project is complete.

Rideau Transit Group submitted its final paperwork for revenue service availability – the point at which nearly all work on the east-west LRT line has wrapped up – to the city on Friday, Ottawa transit boss John Manconi told councillors in a memo Monday. Both city staff and an independent certifier have since given their stamps of approval to RTG, entitling the construction consortium to a final $202-million payment, minus penalties and overrun costs deducted by the city.

Finally achieving the RSA date means RTG has officially handed over the keys to the city – despite already having a symbolic handover ceremony at City Hall on Aug. 23, when Mayor Jim Watson announced LRT service will launch to the public on Sept. 14.

The RTG consortium, which is led by Toronto-based ACS Infrastructure and includes engineering firm SNC-Lavalin, construction company EllisDon and Ottawa’s BBB Architects, has missed four RSA deadlines in the past, blowing past the original May 24, 2018 date and ending up two weeks past the most recent plan for an Aug. 16 handover. Work on the enormous infrastructure project began in 2013 with a projected 2018 completion date, but delays including the Rideau Street sinkhole above the LRT tunnel in 2016 pushed back the timeline.

Any remaining work required from RTG in the next six months will be tracked as minor deficiencies. The consortium will then shift to providing 30 years of maintenance on the LRT system.

https://obj.ca/article/rideau-transit-groups-work-confederation-line-lrt-officially-complete