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  #2001  
Old Posted Aug 16, 2019, 12:22 AM
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I noticed a nice recent high-angle aerial photo of Vancouver House on Trish Jewison's blog.



Source: https://twitter.com/TrishJewison/status/1159667945687015425
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It almost looks normal there.
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601 Beach Avenue will compliment it nicely.

Anyone know what is the maximum height for the last remaining empty parcel south of Beach Avenue? There is clearly a place for another tower there.
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I think that's another social housing site.
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As if there wasn't enough in the area already... I wonder how many social housing units actually exists in Yaletown and Downtown (not counting DTES)?
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I think that's another social housing site.
Not sure if anything is happening with the memorandum but Concord was allowed to develop three of the lots into mixed-used market housing.

https://www.vancourier.com/real-estate/h...ordable-housing-on-expo-lands-1.23485536



There was a big lawsuit with Concord against Li Ka Shing as well

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...n-affordable-housing-plan-was-inevitable

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news...or-families-and-seniors-finally-be-built
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So those lots were reserved for city to pay to build? Isn't it nowadays that developers themselves have to pay and build the associated social housing components as part of the main development, or have I misunderstood?
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[QUOTE=truenorth44;8614484]Or a good traffic helicopter shot. (hint hint)

truenorth44, I think Global TV's traffic helicopter lady Trish Jewison is keeping up with this thread.
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So those lots were reserved for city to pay to build? Isn't it nowadays that developers themselves have to pay and build the associated social housing components as part of the main development, or have I misunderstood?
The parcels were identified when the overall plan for the Expo Lands was made with Concord, and the other Expo developers (Henderson at International Village and Bosa at Citygate). In the era that deal was put together, there were federal and provincial funds to pay for non-market housing, and so the City got the right to purchase the land at a fixed cost (which hasn't gone up since the agreement) and then found other funding to build the various non-market buildings. There are co-ops and seniors buildings on former Concord sites, there's Sorella at International Village, and there is a co-op and non-market rental at Citygate. There was a similar approach in Coal Harbour - there's a co-op, and a mixed tenure building called C-Side, developed by the City, and a private project with a seniors complex as part of it called Performing Arts Lodge. There's another site for non-market housing, owned by the City, but not funded until now as it was also reserved for a school, and funding for that has taken decades to come through.

For most of the past 20 years it became impossible to get any federal funding, and harder to get provincial funds - although Sorella is a Provincially funded project, one of the initial 12 (later 14) non-market buildings funded by the province in the later 2000s on City owned land.

Some new non-market buildings are still following that model of City land and provincial funds - the new Roddan Lodge under construction in the DTES for example.

Once it became apparent that neither the Province or Feds would fund enough non-market housing, the City got creative. There's non-market housing and a co-op in Woodwards, there's a housing co-op owned by the City as part of Concert's SEFC project, there are two co-ops included in the Olympic Village and two other Provincially funded non-market buildings for the hard-to-house on welfare, First Place and the Marguerite Ford apartments.

Private developers have also built non-market units as a benefit instead of paying a CAC. There are seventy units in Strathcona Village, built by Wall, for example. You're probably aware of the buildings with the lowest income, most difficult to house tenants because they attract the most attention. But there are many more that don't have those problems - some of which you might not realise are non-market. A now retired Director of Planning greatly enjoyed touring visitors to the city around Concord getting them to play 'spot the non-market housing'.

With no shortage of need for subsidized units - at welfare, low-income and less-than-market, there are a whole series of new buildings coming forward with non-market units; increasingly they have a mix of all three levels of tenants renting in them. Some will be purpose-built, and others like The Jervis and Mirabel in the West End will be privately developed and also have condos above.

You asked "I wonder how many social housing units actually exists in Yaletown and Downtown (not counting DTES)". One answer is - not enough.
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Concord also paid cash in lieu of a social housing site at the first Marinaside phase - the corner above the HSBC was supposed to be a social housing block, but the inconvenience and added cost of building as a future phase led the City to accept a payment instead.
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truenorth44, I think Global TV's traffic helicopter lady Trish Jewison is keeping up with this thread.
Seems like it! Or she just thinks this building is really cool.

Can't quite see that BMU track layout though - maybe get clearance for a lower altitude? ;-)
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Super informative reply, Changing City! Thank you.
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Thank-you mcminsen ! I wish you could record everything like you have this project. Great photos in many ways: incl. quality, artistry (angles and cropping and such), and informative coverage of construction.
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How can you not love this tower? Such a great addition to Vancouver,
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is the building white or silvery grey?

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is the building white or silvery grey?

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I would say silvery grey. Depends on the light and the angle you're looking from. It seems like a brushed metal finish and is fairly reflective so on the sunny side it can look blinding white but away from the sun it picks up on the blue of the sky. On a cloudy day it might look different again, maybe much darker grey. And there are still some areas where the protective wrap hasn't been removed yet. The copper undersides of the balcony roofs on the tower add yet another colour but you generally don't see that unless you're right underneath the tower looking up.



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It appeared totally white before because of the pre-finish white stickers. Actually miss that look now that it's dull stainless steel colour. I think it looked gorgeous being white as it would stand out from the surrounding seafoams, akin to the Canada Place building and hotel. Now it kinda blends into the seafoam neighbourhood. Probably disappears from our sight once the gray weather rolls in towards the end of the year.
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