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Old Posted Jul 30, 2019, 3:30 PM
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All I was saying is that I wouldn't sell Halifax as having a Vancouver-like climate, even though you could look at temperature data and they might not seem all that different.
I find the winter darkness here much worse than the greater amount of snowfall that Halifax gets. In around December it's not clear to me that Vancouver's much better at all; it's about 3 degrees warmer but with half the sun (only 56 hours compared to 105 in Halifax which is already bad). February-April is when Vancouver's climate is significantly better. In March here you can get reliably nice weeks around +10 that pretty much don't happen in Halifax until late April. From May to November, the two cities are very similar except for the fact that Vancouver has a very pronounced wet/dry season while in Halifax it is balanced around the year. It's common here to see weeks in July or August with no rain but by October or November it switches over to what feels like constant drizzle and overcast skies.

The summers here are pretty good but also cool and short and they are prone to poor air quality due to forest fire smoke. Last year we had 3 or 4 weeks when it looked like Beijing and smelled like a campfire outside. I think that was the worst summer I've experienced anywhere. Vancouver and Victoria have also gotten "White Juan" type events; a snow storm that hit in 1996 dumped 65 cm. That registered as a freak event that never happens while White Juan was talked about as a normal winter event for over a decade. People mostly make up their minds based on stereotypes and then discard or emphasize anecdotes that fit with their existing opinion.

If you want a reliably warm-ish and somewhat sunny year-round climate you need to move much farther south to a place like Southern California, Florida, or Hawaii. Nowhere in Canada is like those places.

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I find the winter darkness here much worse than the greater amount of snowfall that Halifax gets. In around December it's not clear to me that Vancouver's much better at all; it's about 3 degrees warmer but with half the sun (only 56 hours compared to 105 in Halifax which is already bad). February-April is when Vancouver's climate is significantly better. In March here you can get reliably nice weeks around +10 that pretty much don't happen in Halifax until late April. From May to November, the two cities are very similar except for the fact that Vancouver has a very pronounced wet/dry season while in Halifax it is balanced around the year. It's common here to see weeks in July or August with no rain but by October or November it switches over to what feels like constant drizzle and overcast skies.

The summers here are pretty good but also cool and short and they are prone to poor air quality due to forest fire smoke. Last year we had 3 or 4 weeks when it looked like Beijing and smelled like a campfire outside. I think that was the worst summer I've experienced anywhere. Vancouver and Victoria have also gotten "White Juan" type events; a snow storm that hit in 1996 dumped 65 cm. That registered as a freak event that never happens while White Juan was talked about as a normal winter event for over a decade. People mostly make up their minds based on stereotypes and then discard or emphasize anecdotes that fit with their existing opinion.

If you want a reliably warm-ish and somewhat sunny year-round climate you need to move much farther south to a place like Southern California, Florida, or Hawaii. Nowhere in Canada is like those places.
Thanks for the comparison. Never experienced Vancouver in the wintertime, so it's an education for me.

The forest fire aspect is relatively new, I think, and would certainly affect my decision whether to live there or not. Breathing in fine particulate over long periods of time is definitely not good for the lungs. Was an issue when visiting Kelowna a few summers ago.

We have relatives in Victoria who have told us they mowed their lawn in December, but I guess Van Island has a slightly different climate again than the mainland.

Like I said, I have been to a lot of places, but always find that Halifax suits me best... climate, people, landscape, ocean, etc. etc. No plans to leave, ever.
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Somebody telling you they mowed the lawn in December on Vancouver Island is like you telling somebody you went golfing in Nova Scotia in December. Both possible on good years but not normal.

Meanwhile in a lot of Canada, December is guaranteed snow cover and consistent sub-zero temperatures.
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Meh... this is one case where the data backs up the anecdotal claim. It is completely viable that the grass would continue to grow, and that there wouldn't be continual snow cover when the average daytime high is +9C and nighttime average low is +4C.


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Average Victoria temperatures
High °F Low °F High °C Low °C
47 39 January 9 4
49 38 February 9 3
53 40 March 11 4
58 42 April 14 6
64 47 May 18 8
70 51 June 21 10
75 54 July 24 12
74 53 August 24 12
69 50 Sept 20 10
58 45 October 15 7
51 41 November 11 5
47 39 December 9 4
https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/C...ctoria-temperatures-by-month-average.php

Not the same thing as the example that you gave, though golfing in December in NS is possible, since there is usually no continual snow accumulation here anymore until Jan/Feb, it's not something that would be pleasant. However, people usually keep up the appearance of their homes regardless of whether it's pleasant to do or not - it's more of a job than a sport... some of you guys just like to argue, regardless of the topic.
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When I do my ~10th annual Christmas trip to Vancouver Island I'll be sure to help out with the lawn mowing!
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Not exactly a skyline picture but here's a rare, higher resolution view of the Queen Mary 2 and Queen Elizabeth:


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When I do my ~10th annual Christmas trip to Vancouver Island I'll be sure to help out with the lawn mowing!
Lol... yes, you do that. Then come to NS and we’ll play a couple of rounds of golf.
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That gravel parking lot between the Vic and 5151 Terminal Rd sure looks like a prime development site in that picture. I wonder who owns it?

I presume the paved lot behind the Vic is reserved for the NSP building across the street since it is mostly empty in the early evening when this pic was taken while the waterfront pay-to-park lot is full.

I also note that the "green" roof on the Seaport market is mostly yellow. Overtaken by weeds one presumes.
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I've always wondered about those lots too. I believe the lower lot behind the Vic used to be oil tanks and is still owned by NSP. I wonder if it would need some sort of remediation to be developed.

No idea who owns the lot next to the Vic but it is a prime lot as you say. The nearby waterfront lot, the Cunard block, already has a development proposal from Southwest.
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That gravel parking lot between the Vic and 5151 Terminal Rd sure looks like a prime development site in that picture. I wonder who owns it?
The lot is owned by Pascal Holdings Ltd. which appears to be owned by the Meretsky and Laing families. They also own the Merit House property across the street. If I recall correctly, one of the sons is a staffer for the federal Liberals.

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I also note that the "green" roof on the Seaport market is mostly yellow. Overtaken by weeds one presumes.
Ah yes, just jump to the most pessimistic assumption... Classic. The green roof is quite green (and actually, pink and purple with flowers, as of last weekend) and there is not a weed to be seen. Some of the mosses are yellower in colour during certain parts of the year.
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Ah yes, just jump to the most pessimistic assumption... Classic. The green roof is quite green (and actually, pink and purple with flowers, as of last weekend) and there is not a weed to be seen. Some of the mosses are yellower in colour during certain parts of the year.
Glad to hear! An understandable error given how most public HRM grassy areas like road medians and curbside strips are infested with some sort of yellow weed.
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i absolutely love these Halifax pics.. I have yet to visit, but for some strange reason I feel like it's the city for me.. I wish to move there some day... I've had enough of Ontario and the GTA....i'm a city, boy, but a small city boy.. Any Haligonians have any advice for someone wishing to move to Halifax? what's life out there like?? spare me the winter details.. i'm already sadly aware, they're brutal.
I love how this resulted in ~a full page of people talking in great detail about the winter weather

My overall experience is that the differences between Nova Scotia and Ontario are fairly subtle. There is less conspicuous wealth here but it doesn't feel like a particularly "poor" province. Provincial politics seem more boring here than in Ontario but are also much less polarizing, which is nice. It is also a very secular province though not aggressively so like Quebec. There's a wide range of outdoorsy stuff to do and it's easily accessible from the city. Activities like sailing, surfing, sea kayaking, rock climbing, and hiking/camping are very popular here. Fishing (both salt and freshwater) is quite popular but hunting is not, compared to most other provinces.

Halifax itself feels like a complete city with its own unique characteristics and identity. Obviously it's not as large as Toronto but aside from things like NHL/MLB/NBA and Canada's Wonderland you can do most of the same things here that people would do in Toronto and the surrounding area. Halifax has a great food scene and tons of independent breweries, coffee roasters, and there's a substantial wine region about an hour NW of the city. The music scene/nightlife is among the best in Canada. The city is a bit more colourful and hip than most of Ontario in my experience - London and Ottawa (and 90% of the GTA) feel a bit dull and "stiflingly normal" to me in comparison, while Montreal and St. John's feel a bit more out-there (both in terms of cityscape and culture). Chain restaurants and the like are sort of looked down on here and are less prevalent than they are in Ontario, and there are proportionately more local/indie businesses and brands. The direct interface between downtown and the ocean is something I haven't really seen anywhere else in Canada (Vancouver and Victoria are kind of similar in this regard, but still feel markedly different). Halifax (and Nova Scotia in general) has a weird self-image as being an exceptionally racist place, although I'd say based on my own observations we're one of the least racists parts of Canada in practice, but also more self-conscious about race-related stuff when it does come up. A lot of the stuff that is decried as horribly and blatantly racist here would just be considered business as usual in most of Canada and wouldn't get any attention - we're more likely to call ourselves out on it. It's also one of the most LGBT-friendly cities in Canada. There is quite a bit of recreational drug use but it is mostly hidden and we have so far been spared the opioid and meth crises that have been affecting a lot of other cities.

In terms of practical stuff, Halifax deals with a lot of the same issues as Toronto but on a smaller scale. Traffic can be bad at rush hour but not Toronto-bad. The transit system is lackluster but is getting more reliable and generally works well. A lot of the worst transportation issues are not within the city itself but in terms of getting to other places - YHZ is one of Canada's more well-connected airports but trains and intercity buses are not very practical or cost-effective here. There is no Uber here but cabs are generally easy to get. There is no Bixi or equivalent here but bicycle infrastructure is improving rapidly. In many parts of the city it's practical to just walk places. Housing affordability is starting to get worse but it's not remotely as bad as in Toronto or Vancouver and is basically in line with the Canadian average. Gas is fairly expensive but again not as bad as in Vancouver. Electricity is expensive, and natural gas heating is not very common. People here would associate the word "hydro" with water, not with electricity. Most kids here just go to public school, there's no Catholic school system and very few private schools compared to Ontario. The healthcare system is a bit strained but there is currently a lot of focus on fixing that.

Overall it's kind of hard to explain "what life is like here", it's worth a visit to see for yourself; if you were to move from Ontario I don't think it would be very hard to adjust.

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Glad to hear! An understandable error given how most public HRM grassy areas like road medians and curbside strips are infested with some sort of yellow weed.

Dandelions are beautiful, Keith.
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Dandelions are beautiful, Keith.
They aren't IMO but those aren't what I'm referring to anyway. There is a creeping sort of weed with small yellow flowers that has taken over this year.
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They aren't IMO but those aren't what I'm referring to anyway. There is a creeping sort of weed with small yellow flowers that has taken over this year.
It's not a weed. It is a type of Sedum which is very commonly used for green roofs. It is the same that was used on the roof of the library. The flowers are great for pollinating insects.
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Not the greatest shot, but I still like this nighttime pano of Halifax with the fair visible.

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Old Posted Aug 12, 2019, 7:20 PM
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Great photo! Thanks for posting it.

On a side note, I'm surprised at how much the surface parking lots are being used. Looks like another downtown parkade should be built to accommodate parking needs as the surface lots disappear in favour of development.
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