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buzzg · #**1301** Posted **Jun 28, 2019, 4:31 AM**

Everyone here seems to always forget that it's not a stage. It was never a stage. It was built for medal presentations so they could have people sit all around it. The reason they always have to build a stage for big events is because there is no stage! It's more of self-contained amphitheatre.

I'm just happy they covered over the exposed frame.

The Cube however, that is just a mess. Designed to open on two sides so you can have seating at Bijou Park (like Jazz Fest does) but forgot that you need to put the AV control people somewhere.

esquire · #**1302** Posted **Jun 28, 2019, 1:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

Everyone here seems to always forget that it's not a stage. It was never a stage. It was built for medal presentations so they could have people sit all around it. The reason they always have to build a stage for big events is because there is no stage! It's more of self-contained amphitheatre.

Well...The Forks has always called it a stage, they use the overhead structure for concert lights... seems pretty stage-like to me, even if they have to set up a temporary one for big shows!

buzzg · #**1303** Posted **Jun 29, 2019, 7:43 PM**

It's a roof for a stage, maybe an ampitheatre. The floor is on the ground. People call things the incorrect name quite often. A stage is by definition a [I]raised[/] platform.

Spocket · #**1304** Posted **Jun 29, 2019, 8:17 PM**

So,...what's going on with Railside? When will we see shovels in the ground?

Wpg_Guy · #**1305** Posted **Jul 10, 2019, 1:44 AM**

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Quick development of surface lot for SkipTheDishes HQ unrealistic, Forks CEO says
By: Aldo Santin Posted: 07/9/2019 6:46 PM

Talk of developing the surface parking lot opposite the Canadian Museum for Human Rights is premature, Forks CEO Paul Jordan says.

The Free Press reported recently that the lot is being promoted as the site of a new headquarters for Winnipeg-based international food courier company SkipTheDishes, but Jordan said Tuesday too much prep work still has to be done before the site can be realistically considered for development.

"What people need to understand is you can’t rush to the end without doing all the proper steps," he said, explaining that the property is expected to be a rich archeological site that will need to be explored before it can be developed. The land, part of CN Rail’s downtown yard for more than 100 years, will also have be examined for environmental contamination and possible remediation.

"It’s not a clean piece of property — until we know what it is, the talk about developments are premature."

The Forks has included the property, which is owned by the City of Winnipeg, as part of its multi-use Railside Development, a project that would see 14 acres of surface parking lots developed into a series of public and private spaces.

Mayor Brian Bowman and members of his executive policy committee Tuesday unanimously agreed to a proposal to declare the land surplus and sell it to The Forks for its wider development plans. City officials said the property would be sold at market value. Council will consider the plan at its meeting July 18.

Officials told the Free Press that Economic Development Winnipeg eyes the site as the home for a smart park development for the city’s tech companies, with SkipTheDishes as the main tenant. Jordan earlier told the Free Press that concept is compatible with the Railside Development initiative.

But Jordan told reporters Tuesday that he’s not been in contact with SkipTheDishes or any other prospective tenant for the site and he had no idea when the land could be developed.

"The Forks has no agreement with anybody. It’s not our land and until it becomes our land there is no comment. We’re not talking to them. We’re not planning anything with them.

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https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/lo...512500632.html

esquire · #**1306** Posted **Jul 10, 2019, 3:53 AM**

^ Not the end of the world, there are other viable sites.

buzzg · #**1307** Posted **Jul 10, 2019, 4:55 AM**

Said that from the jump, was surprised at the vigor it was reported with. To me, best options would be Earls site or the giant surface lots in the East Exchange between McDermot and Bannatyne.

EDW has been doing a fantastic job lately at what their mandate is, but letting them play (or pretend to be a) city planner and property developer is a slippery slope when they don't have those skills, nor should they try to.

Biff · #**1308** Posted **Jul 19, 2019, 1:21 PM**

From the Mayor's Twitter Account this morning:

"Mayor Brian Bowman
‏Verified account @Mayor_Bowman
15h15 hours ago

A downtown surface parking lot on its way out with Council’s approval today to sell Parcel Four to the Forks Renewal Corporation in support of Railside at The Forks development. http://railsideattheforks.com @TheForks #BuildingWinnipeg"

esquire · #**1309** Posted **Jul 19, 2019, 1:23 PM**

^ So is that the end of the conversation regarding Skip the Dishes on that site? If so, I wonder what their next step will be?

Biff · #**1310** Posted **Jul 19, 2019, 1:39 PM**

^^^I don't think so. I'm not sure if the sale would do anything to effect the Skip proposal.

trueviking · #**1311** Posted **Jul 19, 2019, 2:19 PM**

the sale has to happen if skip wants to go there. This is a potential step towards that.

The bigger issue is the TIF. Let's get railside going. If skip builds on parcel 4, that's fine but the much bigger fish is to get railside going. It is locked and loaded.

Jack1983 · #**1312** Posted **Jul 19, 2019, 3:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

the sale has to happen if skip wants to go there. This is a potential step towards that.

The bigger issue is the TIF. Let's get railside going. If skip builds on parcel 4, that's fine but the much bigger fish is to get railside going. It is locked and loaded.

When are the works associated Railside expected to being? I understood it was supposed to start some time this summer. I suspect there will be a significant archaeological aspect at the beginning?

Wpg_Guy · #**1313** Posted **Jul 19, 2019, 4:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jack1983

When are the works associated Railside expected to being? I understood it was supposed to start some time this summer. I suspect there will be a significant archaeological aspect at the beginning?

Railside is pending the The Forks taking possession of parcel 4, now that the sale has been approved, hopefully we will see some announcements regarding Railside soon!

cheswick · #**1314** Posted **Jul 19, 2019, 4:54 PM**

Wasn't parcel 4 going to be used in the short-medium term to bring in parking revenue to the forks to supliment the loss of the lots being built on for railside?

trueviking · #**1315** Posted **Jul 19, 2019, 5:36 PM**

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wags_in_the_peg · #**1316** Posted **Jul 21, 2019, 1:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

. It is locked and loaded.

Meaning, they are going to release all the proposed buildings so pre-sales can start? Are we talking 3 buildings or 10?

Biff · #**1317** Posted **Jul 22, 2019, 1:08 AM**

I have been told of 7. The developers are ready to go. All that I have talked to are frustrated they can’t start. They are all waiting on municipal and provincial approvals if I recall.

Biff · #**1318** Posted **Aug 2, 2019, 12:30 PM**

Archeological Digs Underway.

https://www.theforks.com/blog/4/railside-pros
Posted on May 23, 2018 by The Forks Market

Wpg_Guy · #**1319** Posted **Aug 2, 2019, 2:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

Archeological Digs Underway.

https://www.theforks.com/blog/4/railside-pros
Posted on May 23, 2018 by The Forks Market

This was 14 months ago? Not much has happened since🤔.

WolselyMan · #**1320** Posted **Aug 2, 2019, 7:02 PM**

I still stand by my position that we're strategically fucking up by putting more retail development within the forks. While I am as happy as anyone else to see business boom at the forks - or anywhere in the inner city for that matter, the sad truth is that there is absolutely nothing in any of these plans that couldn't be done in the exchange district, where it is infinitely more needed and perfectly designed to benefit from. I don't like this big push to turn the forks market into some hip social venue rather than its earlier configurations as more of a farmers market. There are turn of the century buildings just down the road that are literally falling apart onto the street from neglect. And instead of spreading the decades long success of the forks further into the rest of the city center, the only thing we can think of doing is to create direct competition to the exchange district by doubling the amount of retail already at the forks?

The Forks succeeded in it's mission of giving people a reason to come downtown long ago. We don't need to be worried about bringing even more people there. We need to be focused on attracting people into the areas surrounding it now. The whole goal of the forks in the first place was to act as a nucleus for further development. An undevelpoed area as large as the rail side and parcel 4 should be reserved for something that you legitimately can't replicate in a place like the exchange district, which is a large and continuous expanse of greenspace. (Which is what the forks was always originally intended to be at it's core; a nature-oriented area. Not some sort of amusement park!)