NEW YORK | One Vanderbilt | 1,401 FT | 58 FLOORS - Page 175

chris08876 · #**3481** Posted **Jul 1, 2019, 12:00 AM**

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BillM · #**3482** Posted **Jul 1, 2019, 3:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zerton

The floor to floor heights are so large that it gives this tower an illusion that it's smaller than it really is.

There is another illusion that I find in many of the new shots of Midtown taken from afar. Raising the bar makes anything under 700 feet seem irrelevant.

NYguy · #**3483** Posted **Jul 1, 2019, 3:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by BillM

Raising the bar makes anything under 700 feet seem irrelevant.

That's actually true. For years the skyline seemed "dead" because there weren't enough taller towers rising high enough over the plateau to return the skyline to it's classic glory. The rise of numerous supertalls has returned the defined skyline to us.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzX4hCcge5j/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzWwA3ZFBXF/

NYguy · #**3484** Posted **Jul 2, 2019, 5:48 PM**

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NYguy · #**3485** Posted **Jul 4, 2019, 1:21 AM**

Beautiful...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzcEzA1AzQJ/

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Zapatan · #**3486** Posted **Jul 4, 2019, 2:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Beautiful...

Agreed, definitely one of the better looking buildings (especially supertalls) rising in NYC and the US.

citybooster · #**3487** Posted **Jul 4, 2019, 12:08 PM**

You can definitely have an office building designed for FORM and function. One Vanderbilt has its own style, and it fits New York City wonderfully. Hopefully others follow, so the most current versions of 15 Penn and Tower Fifth don't represent the future of supertall office construction here.

NYguy · #**3488** Posted **Jul 4, 2019, 2:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by citybooster

the most current versions of 15 Penn and Tower Fifth don't represent the future of supertall office construction here.

Unfortunately, One Vanderbilt remains an exception to the rule. It's the one tower where the developer, SL Green, specifically stated they wanted to and set out to build a skyline icon after visiting different buildings around the world. That's one reason why it's taller than much larger towers such as 50 Hudson, the Spiral, 2 MW, etc. One Vanderbilt is a different type of building. It's not a site that can support the massive floorplates that you see on the westside where tenants are flocking. It's more "boutique" office space, like 425 Park.

citybooster · #**3489** Posted **Jul 4, 2019, 3:51 PM**

They have a place in the skyline no doubt, but if you're going to go high and the results you get are more akin to 15 Penn and Tower Fifth.... well, is it that impossible to get an architecturally pleasing style with buildings with larger floorplates? 350 Fifth definitely appears to be stylish at over 1,400ft... what are its floor plans?

NYguy · #**3490** Posted **Jul 4, 2019, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by citybooster

They have a place in the skyline no doubt, but if you're going to go high and the results you get are more akin to 15 Penn and Tower Fifth.... well, is it that impossible to get an architecturally pleasing style with buildings with larger floorplates? 350 Fifth definitely appears to be stylish at over 1,400ft... what are its floor plans?

I'm not sure what you mean. But towers like 15 Penn, 50 Hudson, even 3 Hudson, those towers aren't being designed specifically as skyline icons. They are as tall as they are by default. We were on the verge of getting a horrible looking 30 Hudson, but Ross decided to have them go back and design something better suited for the skyline, and with such a massive project, they could afford to. Even still, this version of 30 Hudson became more bulky than initial renderings. The top is less refined as a result. Also, One Vanderbilt chopped off some floors to configure the other floors and make the tower more viable. Tower Fifth has its own issues with an irregular and small footprint, resulting in a tower that will basically float in the air, above neighboring buildings.

But on the other hand, we have the Grand Hyatt tower to look forward to. It will be much like One Vanderbilt, in that it won't have the massive floorplans for 1msf tenants. It also will have a mix of programming (office/hotel/retail) that lends itself to a more interesting design.

citybooster · #**3491** Posted **Jul 4, 2019, 5:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

I'm not sure what you mean. But towers like 15 Penn, 50 Hudson, even 3 Hudson, those towers aren't being designed specifically as skyline icons. They are as tall as they are by default. We were on the verge of getting a horrible looking 30 Hudson, but Ross decided to have them go back and design something better suited for the skyline, and with such a massive project, they could afford to. Even still, this version of 30 Hudson became more bulky than initial renderings. The top is less refined as a result. Also, One Vanderbilt chopped off some floors to configure the other floors and make the tower more viable. Tower Fifth has its own issues with an irregular and small footprint, resulting in a tower that will basically float in the air, above neighboring buildings.

But on the other hand, we have the Grand Hyatt tower to look forward to. It will be much like One Vanderbilt, in that it won't have the massive floorplans for 1msf tenants. It also will have a mix of programming (office/hotel/retail) that lends itself to a more interesting design.

Definitely the Grand Hyatt redevelopment is something to look forward to. Probably the Park Lane redevelopment as well when it happens. By chance are there renderings of 30 Hudson Yards before the redesign? And that element you talk about regarding Tower Fifth may be interesting in its own right, looking forward to see any refinements in the renderings of how it will look at base level.

manchester united · #**3492** Posted **Jul 5, 2019, 12:28 AM**

The 7/16 2019 date to top out this tower is asolutely impossible...

eXodius · #**3493** Posted **Jul 5, 2019, 9:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by manchester united

The 7/16 2019 date to top out this tower is asolutely impossible...

Unless they start adding about 10-20 ft a day for the next 10 days, more than likely it'll be pushed back to the end of July or early August

Still not too bad of a wait, but a bit more likely than 10 days!

artspook · #**3494** Posted **Jul 6, 2019, 10:12 AM**

. . the overall taper of One Vanderbilt is absolutely
the design that the Manhattan skyline needs . .
it's very gratifying to behold . .
Seeing that great shot, (picture #15 of NYguy's July 2nd post) . .
of One Vandy's Crown formation, is very exhilarating . .
but, of course, that pic, also deeply sickens me . .

Some greedy idiot, hacked an ugly horizontal strip
of windows . . right through the middle of what once was,
soaring gothic masonry crown arches . .
severely vandalizing the once beautiful, irreplaceable crown
of a vintage landmark tower . . (on the south side of what
used to be called the Lincoln Bldg.) . . obliterating a noble
gesture that architects gave a lot of thought to . .
and that's now so carelessly disregarded,
shows that few have any sense of great architecture, history,
stewardship, or what makes New York City, not only the greatest city,
but quite a livable world capital as well . .

Most of you guys don't give a shit about the old stuff . .
You don't imagine how great it could still look with the new . .
A lot disagree when I say . . a newly empowered Landmarks
Bureau, should force these rapacious vandals to pay millions for
full restoration of what they've destroyed . .
That idyllic detail, could then be illuminated at night . .

. . A lot of people look out of office windows . . tourists and urban
appreciators look up . . They might not give it much thought,
but humans catch vibes . . Ugly eyesores diminish our city,
our feelings, our essence . .

chris08876 · #**3495** Posted **Jul 7, 2019, 5:07 AM**

IMG_5152_polarr by Brian Aronson, on Flickr

InTheLoopFromNYC · #**3496** Posted **Jul 7, 2019, 5:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by artspook

Some greedy idiot, hacked an ugly horizontal strip
of windows . . right through the middle of what once was,
soaring gothic masonry crown arches . .
severely vandalizing the once beautiful, irreplaceable crown
of a vintage landmark tower . . (on the south side of what
used to be called the Lincoln Bldg.) . .

Good catch Art Spook... Can see that pretty well on #16, 17, and 18 of the same series as well. That they don't care about instead circumcising 53W53!

NYguy · #**3497** Posted **Jul 8, 2019, 3:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by citybooster

Definitely the Grand Hyatt redevelopment is something to look forward to. Probably the Park Lane redevelopment as well when it happens. By chance are there renderings of 30 Hudson Yards
before the redesign? And that element you talk about regarding Tower Fifth may be interesting in its own right, looking forward to see any refinements in the renderings of how it will look at base level.

Not to drag this off course, but the redesign of 30 Hudson as it was originally going to be built...

And the slightly higher version of One Vanderbilt...