Edmonton Construction 13 (November 2015)

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by kcantor

it might be a bit too early to panic on this one even if it is too late to fix hall d...

the release says the existing glazing will be replaced with "photovoltaic glass units". if that is indeed what they are going to install, they will still be transparent panels and not the non-transparent panels you see in a typical solar farm installation.


https://www.onyxsolar.com/tanjong-pagar

Transparent panels were used on the Greenstone building in Yellowknife. Since then the panels have gotten better.

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by kcantor

it might be a bit too early to panic on this one even if it is too late to fix hall d...

the release says the existing glazing will be replaced with "photovoltaic glass units". if that is indeed what they are going to install, they will still be transparent panels and not the non-transparent panels you see in a typical solar farm installation.


https://www.onyxsolar.com/tanjong-pagar

Transparent panels were used on the Greenstone building in Yellowknife. Since then the panels have gotten better.

Funny I was looking at the same manufacturer site. Ken.

[Harrison]

As long as one can still look out of the atrium unimpeded into the river valley I see no issue with this.

[240glt]

Does anyone know who you’d call to have a look at some concrete pilings that are sinking ? The inlaws family have a modified A frame cabin that’s about 30 years old on Wabamun and a corner of it is sinking. It’s a decent little place, we haven’t been out there in a couple of years but we went out last weekend and while standing out front on the water side it ‘s obviously starting to develop a noticeable sag. I’m worried if it gets worse it’s going to start permanently damaging the structure. I don’t think I need an engineer, I think I need a contractor that deals with this kind of stuff but I’ve got no contacts in that area of expertise. Anyone have any suggestions?

[Kevin_foster]

^ IMHO spend the $500 (or whatever) to get an unbiased opinion of an engineer. A contractor, even if they may be correct, will always tend to sway towards giving you a work order to replace rather than any economical way of repair.

That said we recently had to do some piling work on our home and the screw piles were more affordable than concrete. Being close to a lake / water table may negate that though if they need to screw down far to hit the necessary torque.

+1 for hiring an engineer.

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by 240glt

Does anyone know who you’d call to have a look at some concrete pilings that are sinking ? The inlaws family have a modified A frame cabin that’s about 30 years old on Wabamun and a corner of it is sinking. It’s a decent little place, we haven’t been out there in a couple of years but we went out last weekend and while standing out front on the water side it ‘s obviously starting to develop a noticeable sag. I’m worried if it gets worse it’s going to start permanently damaging the structure. I don’t think I need an engineer, I think I need a contractor that deals with this kind of stuff but I’ve got no contacts in that area of expertise. Anyone have any suggestions?

i don't have any contractors i could suggest but if it was mine i would have an engineer look first. a good one will probably also be able to recommend some qualified contractors. i'm not sure what you need for permits out there but find out first as that may require an independent engineer anyway. assuming it's insured even if just for liability and nothing else, that will likely require permits to taken out. if you don't need a permit or don't need an engineer to get one, i would still ask the contractor and/or the piling contractor for engineer's stamped shop drawings so someone is actually responsible for a design for which the contractor is required to comply with. but you don't really need me to tell you any of that.

[Coldrsx]

Concur.

Engineer first.

[240glt]

Originally Posted by kcantor

i don't have any contractors i could suggest but if it was mine i would have an engineer look first. a good one will probably also be able to recommend some qualified contractors. i'm not sure what you need for permits out there but find out first as that may require an independent engineer anyway. assuming it's insured even if just for liability and nothing else, that will likely require permits to taken out. if you don't need a permit or don't need an engineer to get one, i would still ask the contractor and/or the piling contractor for engineer's stamped shop drawings so someone is actually responsible for a design for which the contractor is required to comply with. but you don't really need me to tell you any of that.

We went out again yesterday to have another look and take some overgrown trees out. My brother in law who’s supposed to have been looking after the place has let it go so now it’s my project to manage. On closer inspection it looks like the whole structure has sunk, and one corner has sunk more than the rest of it. There’s also a grading problem with the lot and quite an amount of standing water under the cottage. I’ve got a guy who has an engineer or staff who’s done a lot of work for me, I’m going out next weekend to try & pump it out so that he can take a look & tell me what needs to be done. I think the whole place needs to be raised on new jack posts sitting on the original pilings. The place was professionally built and everything underneath looks good... it’s just sunk by a good six inches or more. I hope it can be repaired.

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by 240glt

We went out again yesterday to have another look and take some overgrown trees out. My brother in law who’s supposed to have been looking after the place has let it go so now it’s my project to manage. On closer inspection it looks like the whole structure has sunk, and one corner has sunk more than the rest of it. There’s also a grading problem with the lot and quite an amount of standing water under the cottage. I’ve got a guy who has an engineer or staff who’s done a lot of work for me, I’m going out next weekend to try & pump it out so that he can take a look & tell me what needs to be done. I think the whole place needs to be raised on new jack posts sitting on the original pilings. The place was professionally built and everything underneath looks good... it’s just sunk by a good six inches or more. I hope it can be repaired.

at least that sounds slightly more encouraging... re the grades, can you raise them under and around the cabin and still keep the new jackposts dry? if not do you have enough height to cut in a french drain with an outfall low enough to move the water away? i'm also assuming you're on sewer or using a holding tank and not relying on a submerged septic field?

[Coldrsx]

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[240glt]

Originally Posted by kcantor

at least that sounds slightly more encouraging... re the grades, can you raise them under and around the cabin and still keep the new jackposts dry? if not do you have enough height to cut in a french drain with an outfall low enough to move the water away? i'm also assuming you're on sewer or using a holding tank and not relying on a submerged septic field?

The place is on a septic holding tank so that's not an issue. That was actually installed not too long ago. I think the grade under the cabin can be raised easily enough, it's hard to tell how sunken it is with the water under there but I'm going to bet that once it's pumped out it will show a clear low point. From what I understand, the entire lot was raised with the cabin was built and there's always been standing water issues at the back of the site, as there is no ditch or drainage on the road side of the property. I did not consider a french drain but that might be exactly what's needed to move the rainwater back to the lake. Thanks for that suggestion, I am going to float that past my guy when we have a look at it.

[s13]

Can you post any photos? Very curious to hear what your guy suggests is the fix.

[Coldrsx]

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[SHOFEAR]

Originally Posted by 240glt

Does anyone know who you’d call to have a look at some concrete pilings that are sinking ? The inlaws family have a modified A frame cabin that’s about 30 years old on Wabamun and a corner of it is sinking. It’s a decent little place, we haven’t been out there in a couple of years but we went out last weekend and while standing out front on the water side it ‘s obviously starting to develop a noticeable sag. I’m worried if it gets worse it’s going to start permanently damaging the structure. I don’t think I need an engineer, I think I need a contractor that deals with this kind of stuff but I’ve got no contacts in that area of expertise. Anyone have any suggestions?

There are multiple contractors in the area. Inlaws used T-Chuck for they rebuilt their cabin. My parents used Walker Ridge when we rebuilt our cabin a few years ago. everything went pretty smooth in both instances.

[SHOFEAR]

Originally Posted by 240glt

We went out again yesterday to have another look and take some overgrown trees out. My brother in law who’s supposed to have been looking after the place has let it go so now it’s my project to manage. On closer inspection it looks like the whole structure has sunk, and one corner has sunk more than the rest of it. There’s also a grading problem with the lot and quite an amount of standing water under the cottage. I’ve got a guy who has an engineer or staff who’s done a lot of work for me, I’m going out next weekend to try & pump it out so that he can take a look & tell me what needs to be done. I think the whole place needs to be raised on new jack posts sitting on the original pilings. The place was professionally built and everything underneath looks good... it’s just sunk by a good six inches or more. I hope it can be repaired.

Our original cabin was just on concrete blocks sitting on sidewalk pavers which was super common for the old cabins out there. We had similar issues when my parents first bought and they had somebody come in to jack and level. Unless you have large windows that you are afraid of busting, and its just an isolated sag...just grab your car jack and shim it.

[SHOFEAR]

Originally Posted by 240glt

The place is on a septic holding tank so that's not an issue. That was actually installed not too long ago. I think the grade under the cabin can be raised easily enough, it's hard to tell how sunken it is with the water under there but I'm going to bet that once it's pumped out it will show a clear low point. From what I understand, the entire lot was raised with the cabin was built and there's always been standing water issues at the back of the site, as there is no ditch or drainage on the road side of the property. I did not consider a french drain but that might be exactly what's needed to move the rainwater back to the lake. Thanks for that suggestion, I am going to float that past my guy when we have a look at it.

I would suggest concentrate more on getting water to flow away from the cabin than worrying about a low spot under the cabin. A low spot under the cabin is irrelevant if no water gets there.

[240glt]

Originally Posted by SHOFEAR

There are multiple contractors in the area. Inlaws used T-Chuck for they rebuilt their cabin. My parents used Walker Ridge when we rebuilt our cabin a few years ago. everything went pretty smooth in both instances.

Thanks for the leads. I'll give one of those guys a call.

I'm reluctant to just get under there with a bottle jack, as the sag has carried from the floor, up the front wall and up to the roof. The hardy siding has started to buckle all the way up and there are a set of larger custom triangular windows for the vaulted area of the main floor and one of the panes in one of those windows has already started to pop out. I'm thinking the slider out to the deck probably has to be replaced now as well as it doesn't close flush to it's jam anymore, there's about an inch gap on the bottom when the top is closed tight.

The water seems to build up mostly at the back of the property, and I think that's what's causing it to go under the cabin. I'm thinking of getting someone to drop a load of fill in there and get a bobcat to raise it up. Problem is that when this cabin was built there was just a small shack next door that was quite a ways away from the property line, and the low point was on that property. In the last ten years or so the neighbors built a giant mansion right tight to the property line so now the water wants to pool at the back of the inlaws property. I need to re-direct the water to the other side of the property and grade it towards the lake. Only problem with that is that's where the driveway access is.

[SHOFEAR]

Originally Posted by 240glt

Thanks for the leads. I'll give one of those guys a call.

I'm reluctant to just get under there with a bottle jack, as the sag has carried from the floor, up the front wall and up to the roof. The hardy siding has started to buckle all the way up and there are a set of larger custom triangular windows for the vaulted area of the main floor and one of the panes in one of those windows has already started to pop out. I'm thinking the slider out to the deck probably has to be replaced now as well as it doesn't close flush to it's jam anymore, there's about an inch gap on the bottom when the top is closed tight.

The water seems to build up mostly at the back of the property, and I think that's what's causing it to go under the cabin. I'm thinking of getting someone to drop a load of fill in there and get a bobcat to raise it up. Problem is that when this cabin was built there was just a small shack next door that was quite a ways away from the property line, and the low point was on that property. In the last ten years or so the neighbors built a giant mansion right tight to the property line so now the water wants to pool at the back of the inlaws property. I need to re-direct the water to the other side of the property and grade it towards the lake. Only problem with that is that's where the driveway access is.

Yeah, most of the county or summer village roads don't have adequate (or any at all) ditching. So it is a bit of a game....every new cabin gets raised higher and higher and pushes the problems to the neighbor. Its nice not to have culverts between the road and the lot as it allows for easy and flexible access....but it doesn't give you a place to drain to.

Sounds like somebody needs a string line, level, and a shovel to create a back to front drainage along property line. have fun.

[Coldrsx]

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