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Old Posted Jun 24, 2019, 5:22 PM
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It's kinda ironic that we still receive weekly construction updates for S1, even though the construction is finished. Meanwhile, construction for S2 has started, but that isn't included in the weekly updates.
Is S2 the segment between Bayview and Moodie?
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Is S2 the segment between Bayview and Moodie?
Yeah, and also Blair to Trim
     
     
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Is S2 the segment between Bayview and Moodie?
Stage 2 includes Blair to Trim in the east, Tunney's to Lincoln Fields, with branches to Moodie and Algonquin in the west and the Trillium extension south to Riverside South and the Airport spur.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2019, 5:39 PM
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I thought the western legs of S2 were still years away from construction. Now that’s fast (and ambitious).

Ps: Coupled with the possibility that VIA gets HFR between TO and MTL via OTT, I wanna see what it’s like to travel to and in OTT without a car.
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2019, 5:46 PM
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I thought the western legs of S2 were still years away from construction. Now that’s fast (and ambitious).

Ps: Coupled with the possibility that VIA gets HFR between TO and MTL via OTT, I wanna see what it’s like to travel to and in OTT without a car.
Construction will be starting on all three legs this year. Expected opening of the south branch is 2022, the east branch in 2024 and west in 2025. South and east and relatively simple. West involves quite a bit of tunneling, so it could be more prone to delays.
     
     
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I thought the western legs of S2 were still years away from construction. Now that’s fast (and ambitious).

Ps: Coupled with the possibility that VIA gets HFR between TO and MTL via OTT, I wanna see what it’s like to travel to and in OTT without a car.

The literal construction of the western segments train tracks, overhead caternary wires and the stations won't start for a while. But other construction work for all 3 segments has already started. They're clearing trees along the SJAM for the cut and cover tunnel. They've started some minor excavations. In other words, preparatory works are in progress right now. All of that counts as construction.
     
     
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The literal construction of the western segments train tracks, overhead caternary wires and the stations won't start for a while. But other construction work for all 3 segments has already started. They're clearing trees along the SJAM for the cut and cover tunnel. They've started some minor excavations. In other words, preparatory works are in progress right now. All of that counts as construction.
Trees are cleared and grading has begun from South Keys to the Airport as well.
     
     
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Several new Citadis Spirits have been assembled already as well. (I don't think any of them are "done" yet though)
     
     
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FYI, starting to see doubles more often again. Started in the last 2 days...
     
     
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FYI, starting to see doubles more often again. Started in the last 2 days...
I spotted two (or it might have been the same units) early last week. Some progress from Alstom maybe?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2019, 5:07 PM
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Trees are cleared and grading has begun from South Keys to the Airport as well.
Also from South Keys to at least Earl Armstrong Road. Oddly, they haven't cleared the short section between South Keys and Greenboro.

Will there be an official announcement for the real beginning of construction. I see reports saying that it will begin this summer.
     
     
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Oddly, they haven't cleared the short section between South Keys and Greenboro.
Probably because they aren't double tracking that section? It will stay more or less as is (although I guess it will be upgraded to continuous welded rail).
     
     
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Probably because they aren't double tracking that section? It will stay more or less as is (although I guess it will be upgraded to continuous welded rail).
I was more thinking that they didn't want to interfere with the operating portion of the Trillium Line until it shuts down next spring.
     
     
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I was more thinking that they didn't want to interfere with the operating portion of the Trillium Line until it shuts down next spring.
Good Day.

Absolutely right.... the old rail from Greenboro to SouthKeys is technically part of the emergency overrun - there is no bumper / buffer there.....and being so, cannot be worked on during live operational hours, and requires clearance to work on during off-service hours.

There is plenty of time to clear the brush, reset the roadbed, and re-align and replace the ties and rails during the shutdown period.

EnJoy!

EDIT: this conversation moved to " Trillium Line South LRT Extension (Stage 2) | Approved ". Thx to OCCheetos.

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Another LRT train derails at Belfast Yard
City, consortium building Confederation Line silent on latest incident

Joanne Chianello · CBC News
Posted: Jun 26, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago


A second LRT train derailed in as many months at Ottawa's Belfast Yard storage and maintenance facility, but neither the city nor the consortium building the Confederation Line will provide any information about the incident.

A train came off the tracks sometime early Monday morning, CBC has learned. A similar incident occurred in early May.

But unlike the last time, when city officials held a news conference on the sidewalk across the street from the yard, the city is now refusing to comment on what exactly what went wrong, or whether the train was damaged.

Instead, the city told CBC to contact Rideau Transit Group (RTG), the consortium building the $2.1-billion east-west line, even though under the LRT contract communications for the massive project is generally the responsibility of the city.

RTG has neither answered nor acknowledged requests for comment.

The derailment happened somewhere at Belfast Yard, where the trains are manoeuvred manually and move at slow speed.

A train also derailed there on May 3. In that incident, one of the two-car train's 10 wheel sets left the track at around 5 a.m. while the train was about to begin daily testing.

Hours later, reporters were summoned to a news conference with Troy Charter, the city's director of transit operations, and Claude Jacob, the general manager of the maintenance arm of RTG. They characterized the derailment as a minor setback.

At the time, Jacob said derailments "are absolutely normal," but it's unclear what an acceptable frequency is for trains to come off the tracks, or in what circumstances it is acceptable.

The Confederation Line, running 12.5 kilometres from Blair to Tunney's Pasture, is more than a year late. RTG had hoped to hand the LRT over to the city by Canada Day — its fourth target date for completion — but wasn't able to deliver.

Last week, Mayor Jim Watson called executives from RTG and train maker Alstom to his office to express his frustration at the ongoing delays. After that meeting, Watson said Alstom promised to have all 34 trains working by July 7, and that RTG would finish the complex light rail system by mid- to late August.

Monthly LRT updates usually occurs on the first Tuesday of each month during a meeting of the city's finance and economic development committee, which is chaired by the mayor.

But in July, the mayor's office moved the finance committee meeting to the morning of July 10, the day of the last council meeting before the summer break.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/2nd-lrt-train-derailed-1.5189462
     
     
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The last derailment was a bit of a sideshow, it really had nothing to do with LRT delays. I doubt this one does either, but it's not helpful
     
     
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You are probably only partly correct. It could be driver error, switching error, a design error or construction of track and switches that don't meet the design specifications. Either way the lack of city staff on the payroll that knows much about rail has probably come back to bite us again. Relying of consulting engineers for doing things right is not always the best path.

This does not bode well for simulating daily operations if the fleet cannot even make from the yard to the mainline.
     
     
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You are probably only partly correct. It could be driver error, switching error, a design error or construction of track and switches that don't meet the design specifications. Either way the lack of city staff on the payroll that knows much about rail has probably come back to bite us again. Relying of consulting engineers for doing things right is not always the best path.

This does not bode well for simulating daily operations if the fleet cannot even make from the yard to the mainline.
If there is a 'normal' derailment within the Belfast facility, will other trains be able to exit Belfast to enter service as scheduled?
     
     
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