Highways in Canada - Page 388

Acajack · #**7741** Posted **May 21, 2019, 5:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Ohh I see. I get you now. That actually does happen in some areas of Alberta, specifically Jasper National Park along highway 93. However, no one in their right mind would consider 93 an expressway, it's merely the connecting road between the two national parks down an extremely narrow, avalanche-prone valley. I've seen it happen in BC too, specifically this past November driving to Vancouver. We drifted all the way across the Park Bridge (about 200 meters long) over the Kicking Horse River. It was literally the most terrifying/exciting experience of my life, but I almost died of heart failure. I don't think any of us took a breath for 50 seconds.

During cold and snowy periods of certain winters, it's not uncommon for less-travelled tertiary highways and country/mountain roads to remain snow-covered for a few weeks at a time here. But never for more than a couple of hours for expressways nor for the main two-lane highways either.

Dengler Avenue · #**7742** Posted **May 21, 2019, 5:40 PM**

Now that reminds me of a video where a driver and her passenger complained that snow plowers were out when there were only 5 cm of snow and that they were slowing everyone down on the expressway.

Doug · #**7743** Posted **May 21, 2019, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Ohh I see. I get you now. That actually does happen in some areas of Alberta, specifically Jasper National Park along highway 93. However, no one in their right mind would consider 93 an expressway, it's merely the connecting road between the two national parks down an extremely narrow, avalanche-prone valley. I've seen it happen in BC too, specifically this past November driving to Vancouver. We drifted all the way across the Park Bridge (about 200 meters long) over the Kicking Horse River. It was literally the most terrifying/exciting experience of my life, but I almost died of heart failure. I don't think any of us took a breath for 50 seconds.

AB 93 isn't particularly avalanche prone. Few AB roads are at avalanche risk as the east side of divide doesn't get much snow and AB has relatively few roads through the mountains due to the extremely rugged terrain. The AB Rockies are avalanche prone due to uneven snowpack build, not due to snow quantity. That means avalanches tend to be frequent but relatively small. The high risk roads are all in BC: Rogers Pass, Coquihalla Pass, Kootenay Pass (highway 3), Duffey Lake Road (near Whistler). That being said, the US has far more avalanche exposed roads and spends huge money keeping them open.

Airboy · #**7744** Posted **May 21, 2019, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Doug

AB 93 isn't particularly avalanche prone. Few AB roads are at avalanche risk as the east side of divide doesn't get much snow and AB has relatively few roads through the mountains due to the extremely rugged terrain. The AB Rockies are avalanche prone due to uneven snowpack build, not due to snow quantity. That means avalanches tend to be frequent but relatively small. The high risk roads are all in BC: Rogers Pass, Coquihalla Pass, Kootenay Pass (highway 3), Duffey Lake Road (near Whistler). That being said, the US has far more avalanche exposed roads and spends huge money keeping them open.

Very few roads I travel are not plowed within 24 hrs of a snow fall. I find rural roads cleared far faster than urban roads. the only roads that are not scleared are the ones that are more or less for a few farmers or O&G crews.

As for Avalanches only 93 is an issue. other high mountain roads that may be an issue are usually closed in the winter. 16 and 1 the issue is right at the border.

swimmer_spe · #**7745** Posted **May 22, 2019, 8:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Sometimes I find it mind-boggling that Edmonton’s 280 km from AB/BC boundary via Yellowhead Highway...

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Originally Posted by esquire

By contrast, it's 250 km from Edmonton to the Sask border.

Toronto is almost 1900km to the MB border. Toronto is about 470 to the QC border. It is 130km to the USA Border.

Canada did not just stick it's capitals in the middle of the provinces or country.

Doug · #**7746** Posted **May 22, 2019, 1:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Airboy

Very few roads I travel are not plowed within 24 hrs of a snow fall. I find rural roads cleared far faster than urban roads. the only roads that are not scleared are the ones that are more or less for a few farmers or O&G crews.

As for Avalanches only 93 is an issue. other high mountain roads that may be an issue are usually closed in the winter. 16 and 1 the issue is right at the border.

At its highest, the Yellowhead (highway 16) is the same elevation as parts of SW and NW Calgary.

Airboy · #**7747** Posted **May 22, 2019, 2:26 PM**

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At its highest, the Yellowhead (highway 16) is the same elevation as parts of SW and NW Calgary.

And Obed gets better weather.

FrAnKs · #**7748** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 2:37 AM**

Another road video coming up soon on Freeway Franks...I enjoyed the beautiful weather and filmed Pierre-Laporte & Québec bridges in all possible directions ( +underneath!)...now it's just a matter of putting all of this together lol

FrAnKs · #**7749** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 4:01 PM**

The new Samuel-de-Champlain bridge is now open to the northbound direction.

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Dengler Avenue · #**7750** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 4:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by FrAnKs

The new Samuel-de-Champlain bridge is now open to the northbound direction.

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Thanks for sharing. I reposted the video link in the thread for the new bridge.

Ps: The way you said 70 km/h was a bit funny to my ears.

FrAnKs · #**7751** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Thanks for sharing. I reposted the video link in the thread for the new bridge.

Ps: The way you said 70 km/h was a bit funny to my ears.

That was not filmed by me...

Dengler Avenue · #**7752** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by FrAnKs

That was not filmed by me...

Oops my bad

Corndogger · #**7753** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by FrAnKs

The new Samuel-de-Champlain bridge is now open to the northbound direction.

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Looks very nice but I hope 80 isn't the final speed limit--seems way too low for a road of that quality. On the right is that a bus only lane or a combo HOV/Bus lane?

Dengler Avenue · #**7754** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 8:26 PM**

If the sign’s in white (as opposed to orange), it might be final. That could mean Pierre-Laporte (QC-A73), Welland Canal Bridge (ON-QEW) and Skyway (ON-QEW) would be the only 3 high bridges in Canada with a speed limit of 100 km/h.

TorontoDrew · #**7755** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 8:35 PM**

Glad it's finally opening, it's a bit on the dull side though. It's not much of a looker.

FrAnKs · #**7756** Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 11:48 PM**

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Looks very nice but I hope 80 isn't the final speed limit

I'm afraid yes.

Corndogger · #**7757** Posted **Jun 25, 2019, 12:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by FrAnKs

I'm afraid yes.

What's the speed limit when you approve the bridge? If the entire road is 6+ lanes with proper interchanges how could they justify such a low speed limit? Revenue grab? Does Quebec use photo radar on it's highways?

FrAnKs · #**7758** Posted **Jun 25, 2019, 12:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by Corndogger

What's the speed limit when you approve the bridge? If the entire road is 6+ lanes with proper interchanges how could they justify such a low speed limit? Revenue grab? Does Quebec use photo radar on it's highways?

Urban freeways generaly have slower speed limits, it's the same in Europe.
Generally speaking, Montréal freeways are narrow and very busy. Its suburban freeways tho have much more space and have higher speed limits.

Dengler Avenue · #**7759** Posted **Jun 25, 2019, 12:34 AM**

I do agree that 80’s high given that the speed limit’s usually 70, including on the old bridge.

GreaterMontréal · #**7760** Posted **Jun 25, 2019, 12:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Corndogger

What's the speed limit when you approve the bridge? If the entire road is 6+ lanes with proper interchanges how could they justify such a low speed limit? Revenue grab? Does Quebec use photo radar on it's highways?

I'm pretty sure they won't put a photo radar on the bridge. 100kmh will be tolerated, like on the Met. even 110km/h.