Broadway Corridor Development Plan

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

Ever thought about where people can afford to live if even those 14 storey buildings had never been built? Problem is the selective re-zoning of lots, leading to high demands for the few, thus driving prices up so much.

They live in older apartment buildings built in the 60s and 70s... which there are many in the Corridor and the aim is to protect them while the Plan is implemented and new buildings are built. I don't see what you're getting at. I agree with the restriction on where prominent rezonings can occur - mainly C-2 sites or in areas where SF homes are rezoned (Grandview-Woodland), but prices on many of these lots that require lot assembly have fallen in some cases over $500k, which is great for business.

The key is not to repeat a Metrotown PR or mass relocation "disaster". The big issue as well with the Plan is to make new construction "affordable", and we'll see.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

They live in older apartment buildings built in the 60s and 70s... which there are many in the Corridor and the aim is to protect them while the Plan is implemented and new buildings are built. I don't see what you're getting at. I agree with the restriction on where prominent rezonings can occur - mainly C-2 sites or in areas where SF homes are rezoned (Grandview-Woodland), but prices on many of these lots that require lot assembly have fallen in some cases over $500k, which is great for business.

The key is not to repeat a Metrotown PR or mass relocation "disaster". The big issue as well with the Plan is to make new construction "affordable", and we'll see.

CoV can do what Burnaby is doing, and that is to have a compulsory minimum 20% portion of every project dedicated to lower-cost rental housing. But for Pete's sake, get rid of many of the other restrictions.

Older apartments also mean we have a lot of low-quality housing stock throughout the City, especially in East Van. May be cheap to rent but it feels like the Third World in so many parts of Vancouver today.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

CoV can do what Burnaby is doing, and that is to have a compulsory minimum 20% portion of every project dedicated to lower-cost rental housing. But for Pete's sake, get rid of many of the other restrictions.

Older apartments also mean we have a lot of low-quality housing stock throughout the City, especially in East Van. May be cheap to rent but it feels like the Third World in so many parts of Vancouver today.

That is what Vancouver is generally doing, behind the scenes, but without the mess of a Metrotown, thankfully. As well, this is what Vancouver essentially does in the West End and Downtown, to a degree. So the scope is increasing.

I agree that Vancouver has a large amount of not so great rental stock in East Van, or in general - the 50/60s walk-ups. Cheap to rent, yes, as in affordable while new stock comes on-line. Tearing them down and replacing them with unaffordable rentals while vacancy is at 1% is not the key. So you'll see items like what you're seeing in New West and Burnaby in the Broadway and City Plans. Stronger tenant relocation and rental replacement guidelines.

Not sure what "other restrictions" you're referring to for the Broadway Plan to make housing more affordable.

[Feathered Friend]

Meanwhile on MountPleasant South Broadway Plan we saw a community that believes there is a lot of potential for improvement & growth, especially along 12th Ave and Kingsway. All 12 Broadway Walks are now online & ready for your input.

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1140391342213718016

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/broadway-plan-get-involved.aspx

[Feathered Friend]

Rounding out our experience of the Mount Pleasant Broadway Plan walking tours are these maps that skillfully incorporate feedback from both the north & south events. Remember, you can still leave your thoughts on any of these 12 routes before June 23rd

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1141472447671046144

[Feathered Friend]

The Uptown North & South Broadway Plan Walk participants not only desired more density to allow for more homes & jobs, but wanted to see prices for parking permits raised too! Remember, you only have until June 23 to comment on any of these 12 routes

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1142566103501041664

Surveys are here:
https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/broadway-plan-get-involved.aspx

[osirisboy]

So people don't like streets that feel like freeways. A solution to that is to provide an actual freeway so all the thru traffic can use that and not local streets.

[misher]

Dumpster Dived plans call for 40 storey tower at NE corner of Granville and Broadway with Skytrain station in the lobby.

https://www.straight.com/life/1263686/ho...broadway-will-eat-neighbouring-alley-and

https://www.straight.com/life/1261101/ho...s-show-granville-subway-station-new-west

I have been speculating in my blog about the possible location of the Broadway subway’s station in the 1400 block for years!

The blueprints and accompanying documentation that I found may finally end that speculation.

They show that the Broadway subway’s Granville Street station will be located on the northeast corner of West Broadway and Granville Street.

The station will be part of a mixed-use retail, office, and residential tower, intended to replace the existing four-storey RBC Bank building at 1489 West Broadway, which—as I have recently written—is expected to fully empty out by October.

The inclusion of the Granville Street subway station in a private development follows the pattern of three other known locations of Broadway tunnel stations.

As I detailed in 2016, TransLink—the regional transit authority overseeing the creation of the Broadway tunnel Skytrain extension—approached the developers of new buildings in 2008, 2012, and 2016 to integrate spaces for potential transit stations to serve Cambie, Arbutus, and Oak streets respectively.

The blueprints for the Granville Street station are dated May 24, 2019, and bear the names of two Vancouver-based companies: architectural firm Musson Cattell Mackey Partnership (MCM) and building contractor PCI Developments.

In total, the documentation consists of 16 tabloid-size, 11″ x 17′ blueprints by MCM and 13 letter-size pages of explanatory text by PCI.

The MCM blueprints only include those parts of the PCI development that are necessary to show the integration of the Skytrain station.

This consists of detailed floor plans and cross-sections of five above-ground storeys and six underground parking levels.

The fact that there is much more to the PCI development than the five storeys of retail and office space shown is indicated by a vertical element in one cross-section labelled as “future residential elevator”.

And there are the six levels of underground parking, which provide a whopping 332 stalls—far too much parking for a five-storey building.

Informed sources have told me that the new tower planned for the northeast corner of Broadway and Granville may reach a height of 40 stories in total.

By comparison, the new 40-storey condo tower at 1335 Howe includes 430 vehicle stalls, while the proposed 28-storey rental tower at for 2538 Birch Street includes five underground levels accommodating 187 vehicle stalls.

[Vin]

I don't see any issue here at all.

[Feathered Friend]

To be clear, the height is purely a guess.

Also the SkyTrain Station is just a placeholder as, despite some very well educated guesses, the province hasn't indicated the exact location of the stations yet

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

To be clear, the height is purely a guess.

Also the SkyTrain Station is just a placeholder as, despite some very well educated guesses, the province hasn't indicated the exact location of the stations yet

Right, all we've got are rumours and word of mouth right now. The height of both this and the wooden one at 1745 West 8th depend on whatever plan City Hall comes up with next year.

[misher]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Right, all we've got are rumours and word of mouth right now. The height of both this and the wooden one at 1745 West 8th depend on whatever plan City Hall comes up with next year.

Proposed zoning is supposed to be out mid 2019 and will be discussed then. But yes this will not be the final version.

[trofirhen]

I'm wondering - and perhaps someone could help me on this - if the built-out central Broadway of the future will be a hodge-podge of short and tall,
or if there'll be a streetwall effect anywhere. A "mid-rise canyon," even if only two or three blocks long would add to the importance and sleekness of the feel of the street.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I'm wondering - and perhaps someone could help me on this - if the built-out central Broadway of the future will be a hodge-podge of short and tall,
or if there'll be a streetwall effect anywhere. A "mid-rise canyon," even if only two or three blocks long would add to the importance and sleekness of the feel of the street.

It's anyone's guess at this point, and hence the constant debate on how we want to see this corridor to become in the future.

[logan5]

Holy roly eyes. Broadway Corridor Plan. It's right in the thread title for gods sake.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by logan5

Holy roly eyes. Broadway Corridor Plan. It's right in the thread title for gods sake.

Excuse me, but I don't think the thread title is sufficient to know what it will be like when finished. I think that "corridor" here means 'length of road' but does not refer to design.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

[misher]

Originally Posted by misher

Proposed zoning is supposed to be out mid 2019 and will be discussed then. But yes this will not be the final version.

So the July open house will be to display the results of the 1st phase, I assume 2nd phase will then start August or September.

[Feathered Friend]

Jericho Lands comments

We love Khatsahlano for the great food, music, vendors & public consultation? Over 750 people came by the Broadway Plan stall alone. With 3 events this week, & an online survey, it's easy to play an important role in Vancouver 's future.

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/broadway-plan.aspx

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1150148431953874944

[Feathered Friend]

Hey Vancouver, There's only day left to impact the future guiding principals of the Broadway Plan. As the Uptown Walk revealed, this is about far more than just a new SkyTrain line, it's about shaping the future of our region's health care & economy.

https://www.talkvancouver.com/c/a/6ZbJrXhMqxNCQy6mOfEFt8

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1155223622580969472?s=20

[misher]

https://www.vancourier.com/real-estate/t...trance-to-new-broadway-subway-1.23964412

This proposed South Granville building includes entrance to new Broadway subway

The northeast corner of Broadway and Granville is poised to be transformed.

PCI Developments has filed a development permit application for 1465 to 1489 West Broadway for a five-storey mixed-used building with an entrance on the southwest corner of the site for one of the stops on the Broadway subway extension.

The application includes plans for at grade retail space and financial institution use, and six storeys of below grade parking with access from the lane.

The development site features an existing four-storey office building, constructed in 1957, whose main floor is home to an RBC branch. It’s moving out in November. The building is otherwise vacant.

The development site also features a single-storey building across the alley to the east with a few restaurants, including one of the Memphis Blues barbecue houses.

Current zoning on the site allows for a five-storey building with office, residential and/or retail. Under that zoning, the application is conditional so it might be allowed but it requires a decision from the City of Vancouver's development permit board. Demolition is expected to start this December, subject to city permitting, and the project is anticipated to take three years to complete.

But details of it may change.

Through the Broadway Plan, the site might be identified for greater density, which is why PCI's current development permit application includes six levels of underground parking and extra elevator core for future consideration. Once the Broadway Plan is completed, PCI will amend its development plans to suit the plan’s outcome.