ATLANTA | Development Thread VI - Page 612

Verge · #**12221** Posted **Jun 6, 2019, 1:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by tinyslam

Again this eyesore of a parking garage will never be seen when Cheetah gets developed. The only reason you can see it now is because of Cheetah's huge surface parking lot. The side facing W Peachtree is much better.

And when I say ugly I'm not talking about the parking deck--

A-town · #**12222** Posted **Jun 6, 2019, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Verge

That's one ugly building--

I agree. It has the title of being the ugliest building to go up in this cycle.

BlueSangha · #**12223** Posted **Jun 6, 2019, 8:36 PM**

I’m sorry, but my vote for ugliest goes to Modera Buckhead. Ugly AF

scania · #**12224** Posted **Jun 6, 2019, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by BlueSangha

I’m sorry, but my vote for ugliest goes to Modera Buckhead. Ugly AF

I can see how you feel that way...but at least Modera Buckhead looks more today’s modern. One of my neighbors described this building as a renovated project in NYC, and they decided to add a few floor to ceiling windows with balconies.

montydawg · #**12225** Posted **Jun 6, 2019, 9:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by scania

I can see how you feel that way...but at least Modera Buckhead looks more today’s modern. One of my neighbors described this building as a renovated project in NYC, and they decided to add a few floor to ceiling windows with balconies.

Yes, 1970's building renovated in the 1990's.

Atlriser · #**12226** Posted **Jun 6, 2019, 9:53 PM**

Appreciate everyone’s opinions but they are just that. Some people like certain buildings; others do not. It is the combination of all the different architecture that make the city interesting whether individually liked or not.

bigstick · #**12227** Posted **Jun 6, 2019, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlriser

Appreciate everyone’s opinions but they are just that. Some people like certain buildings; others do not. It is the combination of all the different architecture that make the city interesting whether individually liked or not.

I agree, I can get cynical at times, but lots of negativity on here sometimes..In fact I know of a city about 135 miles WSW of ATL that would kill for that building...

Street Advocate · #**12228** Posted **Jun 6, 2019, 10:52 PM**

June Midtown DRC:
Street Lights Residential - 121 5th St. (Juniper & 5th)

New mixed-use residential project of 26 stories at the southwest corner of Juniper St. and 5th St. including 4,335 SF of retail use. A common lounge for residential access is located at the street intersection while the retail use is located along Juniper St. Above grade are seven (7) levels of podium parking with ~568 parking spaces including 150 spaces reserved for the adjacent St. Mark Church. Above the podium parking is 19 stories including 299 market rate residential units. The project locates both vehicular and loading access from a shared drive along 5th St.
https://www.midtownatl.com/_files/do...nda-061119.pdf

Sura · #**12229** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 12:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by Street Advocate

June Midtown DRC:
Street Lights Residential - 121 5th St. (Juniper & 5th)

New mixed-use residential project of 26 stories at the southwest corner of Juniper St. and 5th St. including 4,335 SF of retail use. A common lounge for residential access is located at the street intersection while the retail use is located along Juniper St. Above grade are seven (7) levels of podium parking with ~568 parking spaces including 150 spaces reserved for the adjacent St. Mark Church. Above the podium parking is 19 stories including 299 market rate residential units. The project locates both vehicular and loading access from a shared drive along 5th St.
https://www.midtownatl.com/_files/do...nda-061119.pdf

Moar parking

EDIT:Still excited for the tower.

jtown,man · #**12230** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 12:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by bigstick

I agree, I can get cynical at times, but lots of negativity on here sometimes..In fact I know of a city about 135 miles WSW of ATL that would kill for that building...

Exactly. I see this on the Chicago forum too. They can afford to be pickier in what they get, and GOOD for them(really). If my city(or even metro) got 1/10th the buildings Atlanta did, I would be extremely happy.

Street Advocate · #**12231** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 12:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sura

Moar parking

EDIT:Still excited for the tower.

Oh yeah I completely believe 1/3 of midtown will be a parking deck once it’s built out. We will later regret wasting so much space for cars instead of people as we still lack population density and have low transit ridership. If we are lucky, we will stop building so much surface parking and parking decks along the new beltline trails... but I don’t see it happening in the near future. Atlanta needs a change in vision, which also requires an overhaul in leadership.

RocketSurgeon · #**12232** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 11:04 AM**

Parking doesn't affect density in Midtown. Zoning restrictions there are based on interior square footage, not height. If that tower didn't have parking, it would just be shorter.

Street Advocate · #**12233** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 11:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

Parking doesn't affect density in Midtown. Zoning restrictions there are based on interior square footage, not height. If that tower didn't have parking, it would just be shorter.

Edit: My point alone is hat there’s freestanding parking decks and several parking podiums that are literally taking up space that could be used towards people instead of storing cars. Existing zoning/FAR be damned.

RocketSurgeon · #**12234** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 11:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Try skirting around around all the freestanding parking decks in midtown then come back to me and say it doesn’t impact density. No matter the zoning/FAR parking is literally taking up space people could be living in. Stop focusing on existing zoning/FAR.

There is nothing else to focus on, because the FAR is the only thing that limits that space. Parking doesn't count against that, so regardless of what the FAR is, every lot would be developed with the same square footage whether there was parking or not.

Parking is only a factor in an area with height restrictions, like DC.

bigstick · #**12235** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 11:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by jtown,man

Exactly. I see this on the Chicago forum too. They can afford to be pickier in what they get, and GOOD for them(really). If my city(or even metro) got 1/10th the buildings Atlanta did, I would be extremely happy.

Yes sir, no, this is not the best looking Apartment bldg, but know it is near 92% leased out...They have a stunning pool and top of the line amenities...

Triptychtwo · #**12236** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 12:45 PM**

Really loving the feel of Juniper street these days, going to be one of the better streets in Midtown once they complete the streetscape and put in some MF on the west side between 5th & 6th...

Street Advocate · #**12237** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 12:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Triptychtwo

Really loving the feel of Juniper street these days, going to be one of the better streets in Midtown once they complete the streetscape and put in some MF on the west side between 5th & 6th...

With the new separated cycle track coming, if they could redevelop the parking decks between 8th & 10th it would make a huge difference. Parts of it will still feel like a much larger, urban city.

Verge · #**12238** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 1:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigstick

I agree, I can get cynical at times, but lots of negativity on here sometimes..In fact I know of a city about 135 miles WSW of ATL that would kill for that building...

There is nothing wrong about debating the relative merits of different buildings, even developers for that matter-- As long as the critiques are respectful and thoughtful. To flesh out my thoughts about the Crow project-- Its bland and pretty inarticulate-- the parking is also (as has been noted) not very well integrated into the whole. Its OK at street level (of course that is mandated)--

We need, want and deserve good and great architecture and urban design in Atlanta-- Its something that we should all be advocating for. We are not a restless little city anymore, but becoming something more-- a large sophisticated place.

scania · #**12239** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 3:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Triptychtwo

Really loving the feel of Juniper street these days, going to be one of the better streets in Midtown once they complete the streetscape and put in some MF on the west side between 5th & 6th...

Agreed...and getting the all the available retail leased.

scania · #**12240** Posted **Jun 7, 2019, 3:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Verge

We need, want and deserve good and great architecture and urban design in Atlanta-- Its something that we should all be advocating for. We are not a restless little city anymore, but becoming something more-- a large sophisticated place.

Exactly. I’ve no idea why some of us seem to boast on the idea that cities like Mobile, Alabama would love to have buildings we have here in Atlanta. The idea is to have Atlanta progressing in quality of life and design as a major urban metropolis.