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[Handro]

^^great news! re: legalization. The biggest hurdle will be crossed. I'm sure the home grow stuff can be addressed down the road.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/polit...528-story.html

Lightfoot proving she has more than a little political muscle.

Also:

Before the vote, Ald. Edward Burke, 14th, complained about the fact that the rules only used the pronoun “he,” and said they should be gender neutral. Lightfoot cut him off, saying if he had no other concerns they would move forward.

As Burke rose with another concern, Lightfoot again cut him off.

“Alderman, please. I will call you when I want to hear from you,” she said.

Lol just send this guy to jail already.

[the urban politician]

Here was Lightfoot's commentary about the exchange in WGN's website:

"Alderman Burke is somebody who likes to test people. He likes to see if there are weaknesses. He has attempted to do this in the past with me, and he's failed spectacularly every time. And every time he tries it, he will again fail spectacularly. I'm not going to start my term as mayor with a City Council putting up with somebody who is just playing games for the sport of it. The people in this city expect us to do our jobs. They expect the government to actually work on behalf of the people and not have a 'Game of Thrones' gamesmanship on the floor of the City Council. I'm not having it."

[Kenmore]

Originally Posted by UPChicago

How will the pardoning work will he have to pardon people individually? I think that's extremely fucked up. They should really have just stuck with expunging everyone's record.

yup

[moorhosj]

Originally Posted by Kenmore

no home grow is garbage

I think most would prefer it to be included, but they can always come back to it after the sky doesn't fall. If you insist on home-growing, either get a medical card or just pay the $200 fine if you get caught (they lowered it to a civil violation from a misdemeanor).

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by moorhosj

If you insist on home-growing, either get a medical card or just pay the $200 fine if you get caught (they lowered it to a civil violation from a misdemeanor).

and if you're just growing a handful of plants for personal use, how the hell are the authorities gonna find out about it anyway?

[lakeshoredrive]

Originally Posted by Stockerzzz

The Senate just passed the marijuana bill 38-17.

Great news! Let’s hope when the amended bill goes back to the house, it will pass again and will be signed by the governor by Friday at the latest

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

and if you're just growing a handful of plants for personal use, how the hell are the authorities gonna find out about it anyway?

Electric bill

[the urban politician]

I'm really pretty stoked that we're about to legalize pot in Illinois.

I sort of wish I was 19 years old again--it would be riveting. I last used the stuff exactly 10 years ago (May 2009) when my wife was pregnant with our first child; I and my brother made a makeshift "bowl" out of a Coke can in his Strongsville, OH living room.

Ever since then with the whole it being "illegal" thing, plus kids, and of course the possibility of random drug screens in my line of work, I've had to put weed in the rear view mirror.

But I guess things can always change as attitudes towards the drug do.....

[bnk]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

I'm really pretty stoked that we're about to legalize pot in Illinois.

I sort of wish I was 19 years old again--it would be riveting. I last used the stuff exactly 10 years ago (May 2009) when my wife was pregnant with our first child; I and my brother made a makeshift "bowl" out of a Coke can in his Strongsville, OH living room.

Ever since then with the whole it being "illegal" thing, plus kids, and of course the possibility of random drug screens in my line of work, I've had to put weed in the rear view mirror.

But I guess things can always change as attitudes towards the drug do.....

Have you even been random screened? Neither have I in over 25 years. If a hospital ran a random on all the employees 40% would test positive for something.

Anyway from my understanding, the only time they screen is if you hurt yourself on the job or are acting obviously drugged out. Now those latter cases 100% came back positive or the employee refused the test and walked out, firing themselves. Some that have came back positive have gotten treatment and found work in non patient care areas away from access to pharmaceutical drugs. What they would do with a positive THC screen I'm not sure. They could out right fire you if they were looking to get rid of you.
But if they wanted to I'm sure they would offer some kind of program and keep you.

HR's all over the USA are going to have to deal with this issue because reefer madness is taking over the nation, state by state.



BTW I passed 10,000 posts and no one told me about it. In thought I would get a medal or something.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by bnk

Have you even been random screened? Neither have I in over 25 years. If a hospital ran a random on all the employees 40% would test positive for something.

Anyway from my understanding, the only time they screen is if you hurt yourself on the job or are acting obviously drugged out. Now those latter cases 100% came back positive or the employee refused the test and walked out, firing themselves. Some that have came back positive have gotten treatment and found work in non patient care areas away from access to pharmaceutical drugs. What they would do with a positive THC screen I'm not sure. They could out right fire you if they were looking to get rid of you.
But if they wanted to I'm sure they would offer some kind of program and keep you.

HR's all over the USA are going to have to deal with this issue because reefer madness is taking over the nation, state by state.

I received 1 random drug screen in my whole career, and it was about 6 months ago (for absolutely no reason).

[bnk]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

I received 1 random drug screen in my whole career, and it was about 6 months ago (for absolutely no reason).

That's really weird. Did you ask why?

How were you approached and was anyone else tested?

Were you new the organization and still on a standard 6 month probation?

[the urban politician]

^ Others (a middle aged Jewish mom) were also tested. I wasn't offended

[Handro]

My company random screens. We're a large contracting company, with thousands of employees. They screen the guys in the field, so I guess the powers that be thought to make at fair and subject us to the same screening policies on the professional side. Every Monday they randomly call a handful of people up to the HR department and test on the spot. I've been called twice in the past year. It's a lottery based on the last for digits of your SSN.

[maru2501]

gonna be an avalanche of potent gummy bears

[marothisu]

I've kind of wondered how that's worked with national/multi national in other places that have already legalized that you can buy currently. Obviously it's company policy, but have many not written amendments to their policy to still ban it for workers even if it's legalized? Can they even do that legally?

[the urban politician]

Loving what I’m seeing so far:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/greg...s-burke-resign

[Chisouthside]

If I read correctly there's protection for employers in the legislation to maintain their zero tolerance policies.

Originally Posted by marothisu

I've kind of wondered how that's worked with national/multi national in other places that have already legalized that you can buy currently. Obviously it's company policy, but have many not written amendments to their policy to still ban it for workers even if it's legalized? Can they even do that legally?

[LouisVanDerWright]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/5/...4YiziPGEweWwrs

Burke is very very very done...

This truly is a new day for Chicago. Let's see how many alderbeasties can get sucked into the crackdown!

[VivaLFuego]

Originally Posted by marothisu

I've kind of wondered how that's worked with national/multi national in other places that have already legalized that you can buy currently. Obviously it's company policy, but have many not written amendments to their policy to still ban it for workers even if it's legalized? Can they even do that legally?

Many (most?) workplaces have policies against being drunk at a work - safety sensitive places usually zero tolerance. This gets to one of the biggest law enforcement/safety concerns with legalization, the fact that impairment by alcohol can be reasonably tested objectively in real time, with legal upper limits established, while the presence of THC (up to weeks later) doesn't necessarily mean someone is currently high/impaired. Workplaces with vehicle/equipment operators etc. will likely have to maintain zero tolerance policies, the bigger concern is policing the roadways.

Then again, it's not like it's stopping every 5th car from smelling like weed anyway, so it might not make the roadways any less safe than they already are.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by VivaLFuego

Many (most?) workplaces have policies against being drunk at a work - safety sensitive places usually zero tolerance. This gets to one of the biggest law enforcement/safety concerns with legalization, the fact that impairment by alcohol can be reasonably tested objectively in real time, with legal upper limits established, while the presence of THC (up to weeks later) doesn't necessarily mean someone is currently high/impaired. Workplaces with vehicle/equipment operators etc. will likely have to maintain zero tolerance policies, the bigger concern is policing the roadways.

Then again, it's not like it's stopping every 5th car from smelling like weed anyway, so it might not make the roadways any less safe than they already are.

I was not talking about at work. That much is obvious and my question had nothing to do with that. I was talking about if someone legally used on say a Saturday afternoon and did not work until say Monday morning. They are not under the influence while working.

Are companies writing into their policies that even though it might be legalized, that the presence of it at certain levels during a test will still be enforced the same..even if never under the influence while at work?