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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 3:20 AM
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they posted the image in their instagram story and some architecture firm was tagged in it.

From today? Revery is the architecture firm behind the design from the beginning and behind whats likely a value engineered redesign.


Telus condos were value engineered when the market was booming, why wouldn't Westbank do it when the market is faltering?

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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 3:59 AM
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yup today. i took that screen shot 5 minutes before posting it here. it was posted 6 hours before i took the screenshot.
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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 4:25 AM
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westankcorp is their social media handle and 6h means it was posted 6hours ago. However there is no link or info for where that image came from... From what I can find online the renders with the wavy horizontal windows is the only one we have seen since as early as 2015 and the material is a beautiful honed terrazzo, the likes of which we have not seen in material quality in decades. Added colour aside, the material on the facade of these renders looks much cheaper, like steel and glass spandrel in vertical lines. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=218894

It stinks of the identical bait and switch that we got with the Telus condo tower that was supposed to have beautiful folded stone fins in warm tones covering the facade and podium but was switched out for awful cheap standard green glass. There is precedent for this.


https://d2kcmk0r62r1qk.cloudfront.net/im...03_15_11_15_05_telus_garden_exterior.jpg

https://204124-615897-raikfcquaxqncofqfm...uploads/2016/07/Telus-Garden-resales.jpg


Details we were sold:


http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/hirtus1/P1050630.jpg
how can this even be allowed? it is a complete bait-and-switch. it doesn't even look like the same building. not to mention that video about the quality of the units built vs the display-home.

jeez.
     
     
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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 4:31 AM
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It will be interesting to see what the switch is going to be when Westbank switches the design of the actual built Oakridge Mall vs. What they have been hyping for the last little while. At least when you buy into the Shape/some other developers project they don't do this whole bate and switch aka value engineering stuff. If they do is generally in a less visually obvious way. Lol!
     
     
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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 5:37 AM
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I can't see why owners can't or haven't sued. "Value engineering" isn't an excuse
     
     
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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 7:57 AM
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Can you please give us some context as to where and when you got this image?
You can see it's from an exhibit because there is a different project to the left and right in the same format.
... and you can tell it's old because it is called "Burrard and Nelson" - before the project was named "The Butterfly".
The Revery website has an entire page on "The Butterfly".
     
     
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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 1:14 PM
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they posted the image in their instagram story and some architecture firm was tagged in it.
Revery is the new name for Bing Thom Architects after he passed away in 2016.
     
     
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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 1:22 PM
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Are these the new renders for the Butterfly by WestBank?
I believe that is one of the earlier concepts for the Butterfly, it may also be from when the Butterfly was to be the new tallest in Vancouver, but got pressured down to its current height before any formal applications... so I have heard.
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I believe that is one of the earlier concepts for the Butterfly, it may also be from when the Butterfly was to be the new tallest in Vancouver, but got pressured down to its current height before any formal applications... so I have heard.
It does look a fair amount taller in this image and it’s a beautiful design either way.
     
     
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Old Posted May 24, 2019, 11:46 PM
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You can see it's from an exhibit because there is a different project to the left and right in the same format.
... and you can tell it's old because it is called "Burrard and Nelson" - before the project was named "The Butterfly".
The Revery website has an entire page on "The Butterfly".

Then it begs the question, why would they publish an inferior render of one of their most prominent high end projects on the go?
     
     
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Old Posted May 25, 2019, 2:55 AM
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Maybe because it's a cool concept.

Here are early concepts that were on display at the "Fight for Beauty" Exhibit:

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The abstract model






The rational for the name- from an aerial view, the tower looks like a butterfly




With the Bing Thom exhibit in the Fairmont Pacific
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2019, 6:54 AM
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In Vavcouver for the weekend - was walking down Robson and was shocked to see the former Sheraton Landmark being demo'd.
That one held some nastalgia for me as a kid in the '70's.

Also, what's happing at the old humongous post office downtown ?
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2019, 7:01 AM
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In Vavcouver for the weekend - was walking down Robson and was shocked to see the former Sheraton Landmark being demo'd.
That one held some nastalgia for me as a kid in the '70's.

Also, what's happing at the old humongous post office downtown ?
Yeah, I am still very sour about that.

The post office will become a large office complex for Amazon. There is a thread for it called The Post I think.
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Old Posted May 26, 2019, 8:02 AM
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401 West Georgia south plaza and lobby

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Old Posted May 26, 2019, 7:52 PM
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Yeah, I am still very sour about that.

The post office will become a large office complex for Amazon. There is a thread for it called The Post I think.
Thanks Metro.
Beautiful clear morning here today - I hate to be leaving.
Should make for some great views on the flight however.
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2019, 5:47 AM
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All the panels were off when I saw it today and they were just starting to take down individual sections of the steel frame.
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2019, 8:54 AM
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May 25 '19, my pics


I took these pics in the early afternoon.

Go here to see renders.



May 26 '19, my pics

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Old Posted May 27, 2019, 8:56 AM
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And these pics about 5:00 PM.




May 26 '19, my pics

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Old Posted May 27, 2019, 9:45 AM
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Cool, thanks!

You can also see that the skylights have been removed from the roof behind.
     
     
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Old Posted May 27, 2019, 1:53 PM
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what are they going to do with this space?
     
     
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