Canadian Airport Thread

[Alexcaban]

Originally Posted by nname

There are also other frequency adjustments, but mainly the increase for FLL from both YUL and YYZ.

Now mainline should be next.... or they should wait until they make sure the MAX is going to be back before the winter season starts...?

Looks like during the Christmas break YUL-CDG is double daily.

AC884/885 back in full swing on a 330.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by megadude

Does anyone else think the term holiday maker sounds awkward as opposed to vacationer?

I don't think I have ever heard a Canadian native speaker of English say "holiday maker". Though I have definitely heard it in other Commonwealth countries.

It seems to me that if you'd even be more likely to hear "holidayer" in Canada, though that would be fairly rare too.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Alexcaban

Looks like during the Christmas break YUL-CDG is double daily.

AC884/885 back in full swing on a 330.

Hmm... I was actually looking at the base winter service, so I sort of skipped over the Christmas break period. In contrary to AC's claim on the presentation, it seems like there are actually more cuts than gain on long haul this coming winter so far.

From YVR:
HKG 789->77W
TPE 5->4*
MEL 4->3*
DEL 6->7
AKL 0->4

From YYZ:
DXB 4/77W->5/789
ICN 789->788
GRU 77W->789
TLV 7->6*
AMS 5->3
MAD 763->333
DUB 6/763->5/333
LHR 13/789->13/788
FRA 7/789->7/77W
ZRH 333->789
MXP 3->0
VIE 0->5

From YUL:
NRT 788->789
PVG 788->789
GRU 0->3
CMN 3->4
LYS 4/788->5/333
BRU 788->789
LHR 789->333
FRA 77W->333

* = frequency removed from booking, but not from schedule (yet)

[whywhyzee]

Originally Posted by nname

Hmm... I was actually looking at the base winter service, so I sort of skipped over the Christmas break period. In contrary to AC's claim on the presentation, it seems like there are actually more cuts than gain on long haul this coming winter so far.

From YVR:
HKG 789->77W
TPE 5->4*
MEL 4->3*
DEL 6->7
AKL 0->4

From YYZ:
DXB 4/77W->5/789
ICN 789->788
GRU 77W->789
TLV 7->6*
AMS 5->3
MAD 763->333
DUB 6/763->5/333
LHR 13/789->13/788
FRA 7/789->7/77W
ZRH 333->789
MXP 3->0
VIE 0->5

From YUL:
NRT 788->789
PVG 788->789
GRU 0->3
CMN 3->4
LYS 4/788->5/333
BRU 788->789
LHR 789->333
FRA 77W->333

* = frequency removed from booking, but not from schedule (yet)

Seems weird that they would reduce AMS given 9W's demise. KLM's current schedule is roughly the same as last year's, o figured AC would keep it year round daily from now on.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by nname

AC Rouge is expanding sun flying W19:

Conversion to Rouge:
YOW-FLL
YOW-TPA
YOW-MCO
YOW-CUN
YOW-PUJ
YHZ-TPA
YHZ-MCO

New Rouge Routes (all 1x weekly)
YOW-VRA
YQB-PUJ
YQB-CUN

There are also other frequency adjustments, but mainly the increase for FLL from both YUL and YYZ.

Now mainline should be next.... or they should wait until they make sure the MAX is going to be back before the winter season starts...?

Will the YOW and YHZ routes be on the Rouge 320s (or even 321s)? If they’re on 319s, that’s actually a small capacity cut...unless there are frequency increases. I guess these changes will mark the end of mainline to TPA, MCO & FLL.

About time AC added some sun flying out of YQB.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

Will the YOW and YHZ routes be on the Rouge 320s (or even 321s)? If they’re on 319s, that’s actually a small capacity cut...unless there are frequency increases. I guess these changes will mark the end of mainline to TPA, MCO & FLL.

About time AC added some sun flying out of YQB.

AC 1616	319	D	YOW - FLL
AC 1648	319	23467	YOW - TPA
AC 1656	319	D	YHZ - TPA
AC 1666	319	D	YHZ - MCO
AC 1742	319	1	YOW - VRA
AC 1756	319	5	YOW - CUN
AC 1766	319	246	YOW - PUJ
AC 1770	319	1357	YOW - CUN
AC 1838	319	D	YOW - MCO

Most route gain in capacity, although there are some loss...

[connect2source]

Some pics of the new Pier D Extension at YVR from my arriving flight yesterday.

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[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by nname

AC 1616	319	D	YOW - FLL
AC 1648	319	23467 YOW - TPA
AC 1656	319	D	YHZ - TPA
AC 1666	319	D	YHZ - MCO
AC 1742	319	1	YOW - VRA
AC 1756	319	5	YOW - CUN
AC 1766	319	246	YOW - PUJ
AC 1770	319	1357	YOW - CUN
AC 1838	319	D	YOW - MCO

Most route gain in capacity, although there are some loss...

So YOW-PUJ, YOW-FLL and YOW-MCO lose 4 seats per flight, but YOW-TPA gains 2 weekly and YOW-CUN is +1 and the new weekly YOW-VRA, mean YOW-Florida and YOW-South capacity both increase overall.

AC going daily on YHZ-MCO and YHZ-TPA is a huge capacity increase.

[p_xavier]

New from last week that wasn't posted. https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/ad...au-snc-lavalin-and-kiewit-815649041.html

MONTRÉAL, May 15, 2019 /CNW Telbec/ - ADM Aéroports de Montréal has awarded the construction management contract for the completion of its major cityside development program to a consortium consisting of Pomerleau, SNC-Lavalin and Construction Kiewit Cie (PSK).

Under this initial five-year contract, PSK will act as a partner and key collaborator throughout the execution of the work. The consortium's mandate includes managing the program's design, assessing constructability, and identifying opportunities to optimize the schedule and phasing of construction.

"By using this innovative contract model of risk-based construction management, ADM will benefit from additional significant expertise for the implementation of this program, which will definitely change the face of YUL Montréal-Trudeau International airport," said Philippe Rainville, President and Chief Executive Officer of ADM. "We are pleased to be working with companies that have solid expertise in carrying out projects of a similar scope."

ADM is planning to invest $2.5 billion to facilitate inter-modality and access to the airport site. The project includes the construction work and development of an underground station for the REM. It also involves the rebuilding of two major infrastructures: the multi-level parking complex and the drop-off/pick-up zones. In addition, the YUL Transit space will give users access to the airport terminal, the parking lots, the REM station, the bus terminal and various forms of public transportation.

"Whether for a long trip overseas or for a few hours of transit, airports still play a key role in a travel experience," said Pierre Pomerleau, President and Chief Executive Officer of Pomerleau. "As part of this historic construction project, Pomerleau's mission is to carry out work that will help raise the international profile of one of Canada's most important showcases, YUL Montréal-Trudeau International Airport. Together with our partners, we will implement cutting-edge designs, leverage the interdisciplinary capabilities of our teams, and benefit from innovative technologies."

"Like major international airports, YUL Montreal-Trudeau International Airport will benefit from frequent and reliable access at all times; REM and the new access network will ease transit," said Jonathan Wilkinson, President, Infrastructure, SNC-Lavalin. "We are proud to bring our airport infrastructure expertise and experience to a project of this quality. We look forward to working collaboratively and in synergy with our partners in PSK Construction, to develop innovative solutions to enhance the customer experience and prepare the airport for the future."

"YUL Montréal-Trudeau International Airport plays a crucial role in our economy and contributes to our quality of life," added Jean-Pierre Gauthier, Vice President of Construction at Kiewit. "We are proud to be part of this important project that will help increase and enhance the way we welcome residents, visitors and business people."

[zahav]

Air Canada suspends Toronto – Delhi in June/July 2019
By Jim Liu

Posted 23 May 2019 08:00

Air Canada in recent schedule update filed service changes for Toronto – Delhi route, as the airline temporary suspends this service from 15JUN19 to 31JUL19 (YYZ departure). This route is currently operated by Boeing 787-9 aircraft on daily basis.

AC042 YYZ2210 – 2135+1DEL 789 D
AC043 DEL0040 – 0735YYZ 789 D

The Star Alliance carrier will continue to operate Vancouver – Delhi route during this period.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air...suspends-toronto-delhi-in-junejuly-2019/

Is this tied to the MAX grounding, and resulting Rouge shuffle?

[YYCguys]

Originally Posted by zahav

Air Canada suspends Toronto – Delhi in June/July 2019
By Jim Liu

Posted 23 May 2019 08:00

Air Canada in recent schedule update filed service changes for Toronto – Delhi route, as the airline temporary suspends this service from 15JUN19 to 31JUL19 (YYZ departure). This route is currently operated by Boeing 787-9 aircraft on daily basis.

AC042 YYZ2210 – 2135+1DEL 789 D
AC043 DEL0040 – 0735YYZ 789 D

The Star Alliance carrier will continue to operate Vancouver – Delhi route during this period.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air...suspends-toronto-delhi-in-junejuly-2019/

Is this tied to the MAX grounding, and resulting Rouge shuffle?

I thought it was a result of the Pakistani airspace issue?

[nname]

Originally Posted by YYCguys

I thought it was a result of the Pakistani airspace issue?

And the MAX grounding makes sure AC don't have the extra plane to make the detour.

The suspension had just been extended to the end of August.

[Glacier]

Originally Posted by craneSpotter

I have to admit I was a bit surprised when Kelowna passed Victoria (YYJ) last year.

But don't forget that Victoria also has the Harbour Airport (YWH), which handled 235,000 passengers back in 2017 (not sure about 2018). Then there is the Victoria Harbour Heliport (Camel Point) which also serves tens of thousands of passengers per year. Probably near 300k last year total for the two.

Victoria's air market is ~400,000 (essentially just Greater Victoria), about the same size as Kelowna's. It is not unusual for Capital Region families to catch the ferry over to YVR and fly out of there if they are hitting sun destinations. Even Seattle/Bellingham (less so now). More often than I suspect would ever happen from the Okanagan Valley.

One huge factor to consider is that Victoria is a lot closer to Vancouver or Seattle than Kelowna is. My relatives in Victoria take the ferry over to Vancouver and fly out from there (because it's a lot cheaper). By contrast, we fly out of Kelowna because the 6 hour drive to Vancouver is too costly to make up for the price difference.

[lubicon]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Quebec wants a sale to another Quebec-based company, AC fits that (if only nominally). Case closed, this will be approved.

Why would/should the Quebec government have a say in the sale?

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by lubicon

Why would/should the Quebec government have a say in the sale?

Because Quebec.

[DLLB]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Because Quebec.

Doesn't the Air Canada act require that the headquarters for AC be in Montreal. That should change. It is discriminatory to the rest of Canada.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by DLLB

It is discriminatory to the rest of Canada.

Really?

You do realize that the very same ACPPA you mention has provisions that require AC to maintain operational and overhaul centers in Winnipeg and Toronto.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by lubicon

Why would/should the Quebec government have a say in the sale?

The politicians (maybe not provincial, but definitely federal) will most likely get involved in this merger, one way or another.

This deal is not financially necessary for either party. It will stifle competition from YYZ/YUL to a lot of key international destinations. The competition bureau will not blindly approve it. They will need to sit down and analyze each overlapping route, one by one, and take the necessary decisions accordingly.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

The politicians (maybe not provincial, but definitely federal) will most likely get involved in this merger, one way or another.

This deal is not financially necessary for either party. It will stifle competition from YYZ/YUL to a lot of key international destinations. The competition bureau will not blindly approve it. They will need to sit down and analyze each overlapping route, one by one, and take the necessary decisions accordingly.

There's been no hint of that thus far, has there?

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

There's been no hint of that thus far, has there?

No, and there probably won't be. Doesn't mean phone calls and follow ups wont be made.

One of the board members of Transat Inc. is Raymond Bachand, an ex. MNA of Quebec. Backdoor Politics can't be avoided with a merger like this.