Great Canadian Skyline Thread II

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by isaidso

I can't think of any refinery on the Canadian side of Lake Ontario. The closest big one would be in the Montreal area while Canada's biggest is in Saint John, New Brunswick.

There is one but it is only 15000 BPD.


ONTARIO

Nanticoke Refinery Imperial Oil Nanticoke, ON 1978 112,000 BPD

Sarnia Refinery Imperial Oil Sarnia, ON 1897 121,000 BPD

Corunna Refinery Shell Canada St. Clair, ON 1952 75,000 BPD

Clarkson Refinery 2 Hollyfrontier Mississauga, ON 1943 15,600BPD

Sarnia Refinery Suncor Energy Sarnia, ON 1953 85,000 BPD

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Airboy

There is one but it is only 15000 BPD.


ONTARIO

Nanticoke Refinery Imperial Oil Nanticoke, ON 1978 112,000 BPD

Sarnia Refinery Imperial Oil Sarnia, ON 1897 121,000 BPD

Corunna Refinery Shell Canada St. Clair, ON 1952 75,000 BPD

Clarkson Refinery 2 Hollyfrontier Mississauga, ON 1943 15,600BPD

Sarnia Refinery Suncor Energy Sarnia, ON 1953 85,000 BPD

Are they tanker or pipeline fed? I imagine the ones in the Sarnia area are pipelines from the US midwest.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Maybe one Day Toronto will get it's Rail Deck Park which will be something like millennium park in Chicago.

I've always been astonished that Toronto doesn't have a decent downtown park. It's a massive oversight. Rail Deck Park is this city's last opportunity to establish one. With buildings on both sides it's already limited to being quite a small park in width. My worry is that they'll make a bad situation even worse. I'm not confident in the City ensuring that every square inch of it become park. They'll cave to developers.

For a city desperate for more green space downtown they sure do squander the limited spots still left. Wellesley on the Park and that empty lot on Queen East being the latest 2 opportunities lost. In 30 years if Toronto complains about not having enough park land in the downtown it will have no one but itself to blame.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

Say what ??? The Peel street entrance to Mont-Royal Park is literally 300 meters away from the corner of Sherbrooke and Peel street. Don't be ridiculous.

Your map shows exactly what I mean. It's not in the Centre of the core, but beside it. So thanks for proving my point.

[sdimedru]

Originally Posted by isaidso

Are they tanker or pipeline fed? I imagine the ones in the Sarnia area are pipelines from the US midwest.

Nanticoke & Sarnia were fed from Enbridge Mainlines (Alberta Crude) in the past, not sure if they still are...

[someone123]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Maybe the first in North America but Reagent's Park in London was officially created in 1811 as one of the first purpose built parks for the public. There are probably dozens of other examples throughout Europe and even Asia that pre-date that. Boston Commons is great though.

The Boston Common dates to 1634. The Halifax Common was established in 1749 and is the oldest of its kind in Canada. The Halifax Public Gardens started in 1837 (carved out of the original common land, along with Camp Hill Cemetery and a large swath south of the North Common). Part of the original purpose of the Halifax common was to keep a large area clear next to the Citadel to make it easier to defend the city from a land-based attack.

Originally Posted by someone123

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[Chadillaccc]

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[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by someone123

The Boston Common dates to 1634. The Halifax Common was established in 1749 and is the oldest of its kind in Canada. The Halifax Public Gardens started in 1837 (carved out of the original common land, along with Camp Hill Cemetery and a large swath south of the North Common). Part of the original purpose of the Halifax common was to keep a large area clear next to the Citadel to make it easier to defend the city from a land-based attack.

But Boston Commons (1634) does not reflect the park they have today, True park status happened just before 1830, when the grazing of cows was ended and renaming the Common as Washington Park was proposed. The same could be said for many parks going back to Reagent's park as en example which used to be Marylebone Park in the 1600's used primarily for hunting by noble men. Boston Commons has to be one of my favorite urban parks however. It has a nice rolling topology and it feels like a more intimate Central Park with great views of the city surrounding it on all sides.



One thing I love about Boston that I haven't seen in many (or any) Canadian cities are graveyards doting the cities core. They are great little windows into the past of the U.S with many notable names. It seems here at least in Toronto after the second world war cemeteries were just moved for developments.

[Chadillaccc]

Kitchener, Ontario - 240 000 - metro 530 000

The excavation in the foreground will be Waterloo Region's tallest building, at 130 meters.



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[someone123]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

But Boston Commons (1634) does not reflect the park they have today, True park status happened just before 1830, when the grazing of cows was ended and renaming the Common as Washington Park was proposed. The same could be said for many parks going back to Reagent's park as en example which used to be Marylebone Park in the 1600's used primarily for hunting by noble men. Boston Commons has to be one of my favorite urban parks however. It has a nice rolling topology and it feels like a more intimate Central Park with great views of the city surrounding it on all sides.

This is true although the grazing doesn't mean it wasn't also a park. The amenities came slowly over time as the cities grew and technology made a bunch of new things possible.

One thing I love about Boston that I haven't seen in many (or any) Canadian cities are graveyards doting the cities core. They are great little windows into the past of the U.S with many notable names. It seems here at least in Toronto after the second world war cemeteries were just moved for developments.

Halifax has a bunch of these too. The tombstones go back to 1749, and there are a bunch of monuments to famous historical Canadian personalities, including PMs and the general who led the attack on Washington in the War of 1812. One of the cemeteries has the Titanic victims. Unfortunately, most Canadians are not aware that things like this exist in Canada.

[TorontoDrew]

I know, but it wasn't a true public park maintained for it's citizens by the city for full use as a leisure area.

I figured Halifax might have some, what about Montreal, Quebec City or Kingston? I don't recall seeing any in Montreal downtown.

[Martin Mtl]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Your map shows exactly what I mean. It's not in the Centre of the core, but beside it. So thanks for proving my point.

Have you ever been to Montreal at all? From where you stand, Central Park in New York is also not in THE CENTER of the core, but beside it.

The entrance to Mount Royal park is closer to Peel/Ste-Catherine than the entrance of Central Park is to Times Square.

Your trolling is beyond silly... like « Toronto doesn’t have a central park, so there is no way that I will admit that Montreal does »

[TorontoDrew]

You can't compare Central Park to Mt Royal, sorry if you think that's trolling. It's mostly trails up the side of a hill with great views at the top. What percentage of Mt Royal is bordered by a dense urban area? Hell almost 50% is bordered by a cemetery. It's not dissimilar to Hamilton Mountain. 3 posts on one subject is not trolling Martin, if it were you're just as much a troll. And ya I hate Montreal so much that's why I'm always there. Alos, lol, it's funny having non Torontonians through this lame arguement out all the time when they don't like something that is said on here

"Toronto doesn’t have a ________, so there is no way that I will admit that _______ does"

I assure you that is not the case here.



I'm not the one trolling you in other threads "There are no city anywhere that can benefit from such a bad proposal. You should not have to choose between a bad proposal and no proposal at all. Ever." Troll much? Have you been to Niagara Falls?



Or "You can click on the photo link and find out by yourself!" Troll much Martin? Seems like you are the king of Trolls today, well done.
Why don't you troll all of my posts in all of the threads? You do know what troll means right? It's trolling people in threads. I have not done that, you have.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

You can't compare Central Park to Mt Royal, sorry if you think that's trolling. It's mostly trails up the side of a hill with great views at the top. What percentage of Mt Royal is bordered by a dense urban area?

I think I get what you mean although there are some different ways to think about this.

Mount Royal is a large Olmstead-designed park and offers some similar amenities and scenery to Central Park.

It doesn't have that Central Park edge type of feel (that the Boston Common does too) where you have an urban Victorian park on one side of the street and a downtown type feeling on the other, where the city is constrained by the park space and particularly intensively built up. Mount Royal is a bit too far from downtown and a bit too wild looking. The feel would be closer if there were say a park with a grand entrance on one side of Sherbrooke Street.

[TorontoDrew]

Thank you, that's all I was trying to say, not that it's a bad park, or somehow an inferior park, it just isn't the same sort of park like Central park which is "Central" Like Boston Commons. Doesn't mean I hate Montreal or no other city in Canada can have something Toronto doesn't have. How boring that be. there would be zero need to visit any other Canadian city.

[ssiguy]

I need some London lovin!

[Chadillaccc]

As well, the majority of Mount Royal's park space is not programmable space. It is of course enjoyable, but it is trails winding through a forested hill. Not really comparable to Boston Common or Central Park in that the vast majority of their park space is useful for a multitude of activities. Mount Royal is more akin to the Edmonton River Valley in its relatively untouched beauty, plethora of trails, and limited uses relative to size.

Originally Posted by ssiguy

I need some London lovin!

Your wish is my command *bows*


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[softee]

Originally Posted by isaidso

I've always been astonished that Toronto doesn't have a decent downtown park. It's a massive oversight. Rail Deck Park is this city's last opportunity to establish one. With buildings on both sides it's already limited to being quite a small park in width. My worry is that they'll make a bad situation even worse. I'm not confident in the City ensuring that every square inch of it become park. They'll cave to developers.

For a city desperate for more green space downtown they sure do squander the limited spots still left. Wellesley on the Park and that empty lot on Queen East being the latest 2 opportunities lost. In 30 years if Toronto complains about not having enough park land in the downtown it will have no one but itself to blame.

Queen's Park is a nice sized downtown park that has a bit of a "mini Central Park" look to it, it's my go to park if I want to sit in an island of greenery on a bench in the shade with a view of nearby tall buildings ringing the Park on a couple of sides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_Park_(Toronto)

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by softee

Queen's Park is a nice sized downtown park that has a bit of a "mini Central Park" look to it, it's my go to park if I want to sit in an island of greenery on a bench in the shade with a view of nearby tall buildings ringing the Park on a couple of sides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_Park_(Toronto)

That an Allan Gardens are the best 2 but about 50 times too small.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Kitchener, Ontario - 240 000 - metro 530 000

The excavation in the foreground will be Waterloo Region's tallest building, at 130 meters.

You'd never know there were 550,000 in the metro looking at this downtown. One has to think that it can't stay minuscule for ever. I suppose
that's Waterloo's 'downtown' in the distance?