Atlanta Project Thread IV - Page 193

bigstick · #**3841** Posted **Apr 24, 2019, 7:29 PM**

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Well of course, we're probably gonna get something mediocre now...yet another great design falling through or getting VE'd.

So this is fake news?????

Ant131531 · #**3842** Posted **Apr 24, 2019, 8:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigstick

So this is fake news?????

Yup. This is from the previous developer who was trying to build on this site. Their deal fell ultimately though. Streetlights is the new developer who has something completely different proposed. They said the apartment tower would look similar to the church(Gothic revival style) so we'll see.

Martinman · #**3843** Posted **Apr 24, 2019, 8:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigstick

So this is fake news?????

See the post below. It's unlikely that the current developer will use the same design. Streetlights Residential is expected to present the actual design to the DRC as early as June.

It would have been better if we had not seen this cruel tease. Now the proposed tower will come under much greater scrutiny.

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Those renderings for the proposed Juniper and 5th building are originally from the first developer the church was going to select, I believe. I can't remember the name of the developer, but the deal fell through because they couldn't get the numbers to pencil out. I actually have one of those pictures on my phone from January 2018. I'm not sure if StreetLights is using their original renderings, but based on what Curbed has said, that does not look inspired by Gothic architecture. I could be wrong though.

Libertarian · #**3844** Posted **Apr 24, 2019, 10:03 PM**

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Now the proposed tower will come under much greater scrutiny.

Is that a problem?

smArTaLlone · #**3845** Posted **Apr 25, 2019, 2:16 AM**

What a great design.

I wonder if the high cost of construction is a part of the problem. Someone on Curbed pointed out that Ascent Peachtree will cost $362,000/ unit!

smArTaLlone · #**3846** Posted **Apr 26, 2019, 1:20 PM**

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...m-plan.html?iana=hpmvp_atl_news_headline

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A $760 million plan is emerging to redevelop the remaining 145 acres of Fort McPherson, a former Army base in southwest Atlanta.

Atlanta real estate company Macauley Investments LLC is eyeing a roughly 4 million-square-foot project that could bring new housing, retail, office, a hotel and community space to Fort Mac.

The hope is to break ground later this year, including tearing down the fence that’s long walled off the property from the community.

Macauley Investments has not yet secured construction financing. Negotiations continue, said the developer.

smArTaLlone · #**3847** Posted **Apr 26, 2019, 3:56 PM**

A somewhat similar building in Hawaii.

smArTaLlone · #**3848** Posted **Apr 30, 2019, 10:55 AM**

Mock up of the future of Howell Mill Road with 8West, Star Metals and Osprey.

https://twitter.com/cbenderatl/status/1122929239135797249

Street Advocate · #**3849** Posted **Apr 30, 2019, 11:39 AM**

While the rendering is off, I really appreciate someone attempting to mock up what the corridor will look like.

smArTaLlone · #**3850** Posted **May 2, 2019, 1:10 PM**

https://www.reporternewspapers.net/2019/...-to-buckheads-lenox-square-mall-path400/

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A 16-story hotel is proposed to be built next to Buckhead’s Lenox Square mall with a connection to PATH400.

The Hyatt Centric hotel would be built on a 1-acre site on the southeast edge of the mall near the George C. Bynum Jr. Pedestrian Bridge, which connects PATH400, a multiuse trail, over Ga. 400.

bigstick · #**3851** Posted **May 2, 2019, 1:15 PM**

Not to be a "debbie downer" but really nothing special, guess we are spoiled somewhat,,,This would be massive news in Birmingham....

MARTAisSmarta · #**3852** Posted **May 2, 2019, 1:50 PM**

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This has to be one of the ugliest photos of Atlanta

bigstick · #**3853** Posted **May 2, 2019, 2:07 PM**

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This has to be one of the ugliest photos of Atlanta

LOL,, It just shows the massive footprint of Lenox.....

Sura · #**3854** Posted **May 2, 2019, 2:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigstick

LOL,, It just shows the massive footprint of Lenox.....

I feel like I say this often on here, but Lenox is atrocious. The more that's built in this area the better. The surface lots and ABUNDANCE of parking decks really keeps this area down.

bigstick · #**3855** Posted **May 2, 2019, 2:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sura

I feel like I say this often on here, but Lenox is atrocious. The more that's built in this area the better. The surface lots and ABUNDANCE of parking decks really keeps this area down.

Agree, but if it were not for Lenox, and even Phipps, Buckhead would not be what it is today... You are correct, aerial views of sprawling malls are not pretty...

cabasse · #**3856** Posted **May 2, 2019, 2:30 PM**

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Agree, but if it were not for Lenox, and even Phipps, Buckhead would not be what it is today... You are correct, aerial views of sprawling malls are not pretty...

and they aren't really any better from the street either unfortunately. but luckily there are plans being made to change that, at least for the two in buckhead.

3yonce · #**3857** Posted **May 2, 2019, 2:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sura

I feel like I say this often on here, but Lenox is atrocious. The more that's built in this area the better. The surface lots and ABUNDANCE of parking decks really keeps this area down.

I'm hoping Simon Properties will start on all the Lenox lots once they're done building out all of Phipps. With the office tower, AC Hotel, Ecco, apartments, and now the additions on the old Belk site, they don't have much room left.

Sura · #**3858** Posted **May 2, 2019, 5:38 PM**

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and they aren't really any better from the street either unfortunately. but luckily there are plans being made to change that, at least for the two in buckhead.

The walk from Lenox station toward Peachtree is depressing. There's maybe one drain on each side of the road, so when it's raining there are streams just waiting to be kicked onto the sidewalk from a passing car. The edge of the road where bikes and scooters should be is full of pot holes and strange concrete curves/waves. The Lenox mall side is like a quarter mile of bushes, and the other side has 80's style office buildings and empty/abandoned lots.

It's not all bad, working up here isn't terrible. But the pedestrian experience leaves a lot to be desired.

tallpez · #**3859** Posted **May 2, 2019, 6:35 PM**

One thing about this proposal that I think is great, and dare I say Midtown could take a lesson from this is:

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The hotel will not add any vehicle parking and will use existing decks at other properties.

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Originally Posted by Sura

The walk from Lenox station toward Peachtree is depressing. There's maybe one drain on each side of the road, so when it's raining there are streams just waiting to be kicked onto the sidewalk from a passing car. The edge of the road where bikes and scooters should be is full of pot holes and strange concrete curves/waves. The Lenox mall side is like a quarter mile of bushes, and the other side has 80's style office buildings and empty/abandoned lots.

It's not all bad, working up here isn't terrible. But the pedestrian experience leaves a lot to be desired.

The Lenox Rd experience is bad, but there is a lot changing. Most people walk W. Paces and Peachtree. The Path400 trail is really enabling this. Also the thousands of new apartments have added a lot of pedestrian traffic to the area. There is probably 5 times the foot traffic there was 2 years ago. It's not Midtown or Highlands, but its way up.

However, definitely agree that Lenox Rd sorely needs some redevelopment to kickoff - the lot next the Marriott, the old Firestone, the 2 resturants near the MARTA station all need to happen. It also needs Simon to ultimately build out to Peachtree and Lenox, even if its other uses like Condos/Apartments if the area is truly going to transform. Even the Phipps development, while great reuse of an old mall, will not ultimately have a strong Phipps Blvd. street presence.

dpoulos27 · #**3860** Posted **May 2, 2019, 6:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigstick

Not to be a "debbie downer" but really nothing special, guess we are spoiled somewhat,,,This would be massive news in Birmingham....

Well, from a hotel perspective, it is. Hyatt extending their footprint in Buckhead is HUGE (I worked for Hyatt for nearly 5 years until this year). This will lead to other hotel companies battling to increase their share in the market as well, which should lead to more developments. The race is on!