B6 (1090 W Pender) | 123m | 31Fl | Completed

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by fredinno

I meant that 'this' as in people are more aware that significant buildings are being demolished?

Who knows? We'll have to see whether anybody says anything loudly enough when the next demolition is proposed of a building that might - or might not - be significant, or potentially a heritage building worth saving. Don't forget there are no sticks to save heritage, only quite expensive carrots. Seismic concerns are going to play into the equation as well, probably far more in future than they have in the past.

[fredinno]

Hopefully, the Broadway Plan zones enough offices to reduce pressure on the CBD for redevelopment.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I heard some much more detailed rumours surrounding the potential lead tenant and their size (quite large).

If they turn out to be true you guys will be very surprised by who the tenant is. I know I was.

You’re so cool and in-the-know

[Feathered Friend]

Personally I appreciate those who are willing to spend their valuable time to give the community an insight into a juicy rumour. I mean, I suppose they could just stay silent or complain instead, but thankfully they are indeed too cool for that

[trofirhen]

It's natural, I suppose, but nevertheless too bad when people wake up too late about losing architectural heritage.
For me, The Birks Building demolition was a mega-tragedy, but at that time, few people seemed to care. (Now the site is occupied by the elegant, toney presence of London Drugs).
The building that 1090 will replace is no heritage jewel, but yes, parts of the exterior could have been retained in some context or other.
All this is like trying to round round up the cattle after they have busted down the corral fence and stampeded. A belated lesson in appreciating what we have.

[urbancanadian]

Originally Posted by feathered friend

personally i appreciate those who are willing to spend their valuable time to give the community an insight into a juicy rumour. I mean, i suppose they could just stay silent or complain instead, but thankfully they are indeed too cool for that

+1

Originally Posted by libtard

you’re so cool and in-the-know

-1

[trofirhen]

Might I request that we halt the 'ad hominem' sniping, and get back on topic, which in this case is 1090 West Pender? Thank you.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by libtard

You’re so cool and in-the-know

Wasn't trying to be cool, it's just my job man. Not much cool about sitting in front of a computer all day in my books, but whatever works for you.

At the risk of another scathing indictment by libtard about getting too big for my britches, this one now has two lead tenants signed on. Not sure if they're public or not so I won't post the names.

Also neither of those tenants are the one I was alluding to earlier, so still a lot of leasing to go on this one.

[s211]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Wasn't trying to be cool, it's just my job man. Not much cool about sitting in front of a computer all day in my books, but whatever works for you.

At the risk of another scathing indictment by libtard about getting too big for my britches, this one now has two lead tenants signed on. Not sure if they're public or not so I won't post the names.

Also neither of those tenants are the one I was alluding to earlier, so still a lot of leasing to go on this one.

I'm also hearing of three tenants close to being secured.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Changing City

What 'this' are you referring to? It isn't a heritage building, and never was. The Heritage Commission reviewed the plan to demolish it, and they didn't object to it's demolition. At the Public Hearing to rezone the site, nobody - not a single person - appeared to express any opinion about the project. Only three people sent an e-mail comment. One supported the scheme, and two opposed it, but only because they didn't think the CAC offered was high enough. Not a single comment was made about the existing building.

So Council at the time, and staff who worked there at the time, didn't know anybody particularly cared about the building that would be demolished. The current Council are almost all different from the Council that approved the project, and many of the City staff are also not the same people, so there's no reason for them to know either.

These days, significant heritage buildings generally, but not always, get saved, one way or another. Even insignificant buildings like the Catholic charities building at Robson and Beatty (that started life as a warehouse) get saved. This one wasn't saved because, at the time, nobody thought it was special enough to try to save it, and the replacement was, and is, seen as a positive contribution to the continued growth of Dowmntown employment.

The Heritage Commission isn't a heritage building god. They are made up of ordinary people who make mistakes, just like you and me. No need to take their decision as gold.

At the public hearing, perhaps not many people know the significance of this before to even be there to protect. Who actually lives around in the CBD neighbourhood? I live downtown and didn't even get a notification of the hearing.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by fredinno

Hopefully, the Broadway Plan zones enough offices to reduce pressure on the CBD for redevelopment.

They better, like I said before, our zoning bylaws, OCPs and viewcones are seriously impacting a good stock of older buildings. Such buildings would be treasures in places like Nanaimo, Kelowna, or even closer municipalities like Langley or Abbotsford. But here downtown, we take them for granted and keep demolishing them to replace with mediocre not-so-tall buildings.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

The Heritage Commission isn't a heritage building god. They are made up of ordinary people who make mistakes, just like you and me. No need to take their decision as gold.

At the public hearing, perhaps not many people know the significance of this before to even be there to protect. Who actually lives around in the CBD neighbourhood? I live downtown and didn't even get a notification of the hearing.

It's roughly a 2-block radius for notifications. They have not gone to Public Hearing yet. Rezoning Open House is next week.

[LeftCoaster]

For which project? 1090 is already fully zoned and entitled I believe.

[fredinno]

Do office towers have tower spacing limits in DT Vancouver?

[Feathered Friend]

If I'm not mistaken, office towers over x floors have a required separation of 50 ft, as compared to residential towers that need a distance of 80 ft.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

If I'm not mistaken, office towers over x floors have a required separation of 50 ft, as compared to residential towers that need a distance of 80 ft.

I'm not aware of any specific guideline for commercial to commercial buildings. You're correct that the Design Guidelines for residential buildings try to achieve a minimum 80 feet separation, although as they're guidelines rather than absolute rules, a few buildings inserted on tight sites have been permitted to be built a little closer than 80 feet.

According to the Rezoning plans for this building it will be 33 feet from the tower next door. The Pender Place towers on the 700 block of west Pender are about 45 feet apart. The new Vancouver Centre 2 tower plans shows it's going to be about 35 feet from the Scotia Tower. Interestingly, the rezoning report, other than making vague statements about tower separation policy doesn't say specifically what the policy seeks to achieve.

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by Changing City

I'm not aware of any specific guideline for commercial to commercial buildings. You're correct that the Design Guidelines for residential buildings try to achieve a minimum 80 feet separation, although as they're guidelines rather than absolute rules, a few buildings inserted on tight sites have been permitted to be built a little closer than 80 feet.

According to the Rezoning plans for this building it will be 33 feet from the tower next door. The Pender Place towers on the 700 block of west Pender are about 45 feet apart. The new Vancouver Centre 2 tower plans shows it's going to be about 35 feet from the Scotia Tower. Interestingly, the rezoning report, other than making vague statements about tower separation policy doesn't say specifically what the policy seeks to achieve.

What happened to 'livability'? So that allows for another 3 possible towers on this site then. Nice to know there's future possibilities (since most of that land is parkades)

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

If I'm not mistaken, office towers over x floors have a required separation of 50 ft, as compared to residential towers that need a distance of 80 ft.

Technically the City of Vancouver does not have any planning based separation guidelines like it does for residential. What the city does rely on is building code which stipulates separation based off the fire code. Can't remember how far the fire code dictates, but it's not much.

Originally Posted by fredinno

What happened to 'livability'? So that allows for another 3 possible towers on this site then. Nice to know there's future possibilities (since most of that land is parkades)

Well these are offices, one isn't supposed to live at their office!

[officedweller]

What?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by officedweller

What?

Except in very special circumstances. It's a select few that breach the guideline. Well, one really.