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Originally Posted by Comrade
I probably post the most controversial opinions here, and I've been called a lot worse, but why do I give a ---- what some randos online think? I state my opinion. If you don't like it, piss off. Take that attitude and you'll be just fine.
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Thank you for your advice. I don't fully agree, but I will at least take some of it.
1. The past. What concerns me is I said that we should "a future not ALWAYS beholden to the past," and yet clearly nobody actually read that part of my comment (Old&New in particular cut out the 'always' entirely). Instead, some of you acted as it I wanted to demolish and burn everything and dance on the ashes. I love many of the historic buildings in SLC. In future, Please read the whole comment carefully before you respond.
2. Behavior. No, I am not 'SLC Projects' that you keep talking about. But if someone else felt that your behavior and treatment of others is out of line, then I think that says a lot about how people on the forum are treating others (note: I do not know the circumstances surrounding SLC Projects). I have followed this site on and off for years, even created an account a couple years ago in hopes of commenting in the future. I used to look up to all of you, enjoying all of the amazing things you would post and talk about. Now, I know better. I assume most of you are adults, likely significantly older then myself. I do not presume in any way to parent you. But I think all of us need to start treating each other with more respect. When you discussed SLC Projects, it comes off to me as almost mocking and proud that you insulted and attacked someone off of this site. That is not okay! I can't force you, but I hope you will be more friendly in future. I will absolutely try and do so. Though, I suspect at least some of you will try and attack me anyway for simply calling for all of us (including myself), to rise above and treat each other with the respect I think we all deserve.
3. Other Ideas. I am not opposed to other ideas. I was on my high school debate team after all. To simply chalk up someone concerned that people are taking what you say out of context or blowing them out of proportion as 'opposed to other ideas' is incorrect and misconstruing the situation.
4. Outlandish. One of the things I find most concerning is the rising opinion on this site on the need to apparently preserve anything and everything that is old. One of you even called me saying that I would like to take down a series of rickety old 1 floor buildings (that yes, house some great things, but street level can easily be replicated/ improved) on Main Street between two far more beautiful historical buildings as "outlandish (Old&New)."
5. Preserve or die. This opinion of preserve or nothing has doomed many cities now to a future of ruin. San Francisco is a perfect example. SF is a place where developers have to spend millions of dollars and years, often decades, trying to convince people that tearing down a single building won't destroy the 'character' of the city. I have heard it often called a 'museum city,' a place so wrapped up in preserving the past that it is virtually unlivable. A place so focused on maintaining the old that they are almost ALWAYS beholden to it. Now, it stands as either a slum or city only the ultra-rich can afford. Yes, a few projects make it through now and then, but only after every resource is spent fighting it. If we followed the path some of you appear (at least to me) to promote, that future will be ours as well.
6. Greek Orthodox Church buildings. It is my opinion that we should honor and love our city's past, but we cannot give it power or control over us. We should preserve the best we have, but also learn to let go as well. To whoever it was that said their grandma grew up there, so it should be preserved (if I remember correctly), for any building set for demolition, there will always be a story like yours. Cities are filled with people, memories, and ideas. That is why so many of us love them. That doesn't mean the buildings deserve to be preserved and prevent new people to enjoy discovering what new things can be created. Otherwise, if we followed your opinion, we would still live in a city filled with rickety pioneer buildings and the tallest thing here would be the Temple. We all need to learn how to let go and allow the future to build something new that future people can love and remember. That doesn't mean everything, but it does mean most things. The longer we continue to develop, and the easy sites like parking lots are all redeveloped and built out, this will be something SLC will have to increasingly grapple with.
7. 254 Main. As for 254 main, the interior is, in my opinion, ugly, cramped, and needs (at the very least) a complete overall or eventual tear-down. Not everything in a city should be based on outward appearances and facades. But I fear that is all that matters to some of you. That said, I would also argue that the images that were being used were also misleading, showing only the nicest half of the span of this group of buildings' facades (and it is mostly just facades you seem attached too), rather then the building where SLC Weekly is, which I find to be a rather gray, bland, and a relatively depressing structure to walk by. It sounds like they are renovating the structure, rather then demolishing it anyway, which I am fine with. But something needed to be done to those buildings. Also, I apologize if any of you feel that I need to find a more diplomatic words than 'ugly' and if this, as some of you put it 'triggers' you, then please let me know and I will work to correct that in the future.
8. Not backing down. It was wrong of me to allow a few insensitive (as diplomatic as I am willing to put it) individuals get me down. I will not allow that to happen in the future. I can't control this site, or the people on it, but I can control my own actions. I will continue to voice what I think, though I will do so with the upmost respect and common decency that every individual deserves.
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Since no customers are there now, it would be easy to tear out and replace with a nice tower.
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