Great Canadian Skyline Thread II - Page 517

Chadillaccc · #**10321** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 3:18 AM**

https://www.stockaerialphotos.com/-/galleries/cities/calgary

Coldrsx · #**10322** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 5:11 PM**

https://twitter.com/kmoorephotos/status/1111840962983026688
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rousseau · #**10323** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 5:19 PM**

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BvhKq4flkfl/

That's a nice view. The fog really enhances the depth and density.

Rico Rommheim · #**10324** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 6:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvg_FOcAi_j/

I`ve got to say, I never cared much for Le 1000. It always seemed somewhat silly, and its isolation in the skyline and its placement far away from the true core of the downtown
area always made it seem fringe. But this photo redeems it in my view. It looks tall and imposing, and its relative loneliness gives it a certain sense of importance.

yaletown_fella · #**10325** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 7:48 PM**

Love it or hate it, Le 1000 is a po-mo icon.

Great skating rink too.

Chadillaccc · #**10326** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 9:36 PM**

Le 1000 has always been in my top 5 favourite 20th century Canadian skyscrapers for sure.

FrAnKs · #**10327** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 10:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Le 1000 has always been in my top 5 favourite 20th century Canadian skyscrapers for sure.

Le 1000 is still to date my favourite skyscraper in Montréal. Just the way it proudly stands like that in the middle of the skyline.

I have noticed something weird about this one (I don't know if it's always the case) ; Le 1000 never leave you indifferent. People love it alot OR hate it alot.

Coldrsx · #**10328** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 10:21 PM**

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Nouvellecosse · #**10329** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 10:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

I`ve got to say, I never cared much for Le 1000. It always seemed somewhat silly, and its isolation in the skyline and its placement far away from the true core of the downtown
area always made it seem fringe. But this photo redeems it in my view. It looks tall and imposing, and its relative loneliness gives it a certain sense of importance.

What area do you consider to be the "true core"?

Rico Rommheim · #**10330** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

What area do you consider to be the "true core"?

Personally, I see the true center of the downtown core to be somewhere in between Ste-catherine streets and Rene-levesque Boulevard (north-south) and Guy and Bleury (east-west).

Although It`s a dificult exercise to pin-point the true core because Im sure it varies from person to person and as anyone can tell by looking at the skyline, the downtown has different peaks, so to speak. You could say Plave Ville-Marie would be the centre of it all, as it is strategically located between McGill metro (arguably the busisest subway station) and Bonaventure metro-Central Station. Le 1000 is positioned right at the southern limit of what most people would consider downtown. I predict that in a decade, Le 1000 will seem a lot less lonely once griffintown is filled-up, Cadillac Fairview`s Quad Windsor development is complete and the lots surrounding place bonaventure have been developed.

Martin Mtl · #**10331** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 10:51 PM**

There’s a fairly large consensus about Place Ville-Marie being the epicentre of downtown Montreal. Le 1000 is 3 blocks away, 5 minutes walk. One could argue also that Place du Canada and Dorchester square are the center of the core. Le 1000 is actually facing Place du Canada.

Zeej · #**10332** Posted **Mar 30, 2019, 11:30 PM**

Place Ville Marie was certainly conceived as the centre of the downtown core when it was built, not only because many of the largest head offices were concentrated there in the 60s (as the first major skyscraper it accounted for so much of the city's office space at the time), but also because it links metro and commuter rail at central station. It's retail component is meant to be a kind of "city within a city" concept.

That being said, you can see a similar concept with the 1000, as it links one metro line with the RTL bus service and also has a retail and entertainment component, although not quite as upscale as what's on offer at PVM.

I think as Quad Windsor builds out etc., the centre of gravity of downtown will creep towards the Bell Centre area more and more. I'm not sure this is a deliberate move, but just the consequence of so much mixed use development.

Martin Mtl · #**10333** Posted **Mar 31, 2019, 1:54 AM**

Mtlurb

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Originally Posted by Zeej

Place Ville Marie was certainly conceived as the centre of the downtown core when it was built, not only because many of the largest head offices were concentrated there in the 60s (as the first major skyscraper it accounted for so much of the city's office space at the time), but also because it links metro and commuter rail at central station. It's retail component is meant to be a kind of "city within a city" concept.

That being said, you can see a similar concept with the 1000, as it links one metro line with the RTL bus service and also has a retail and entertainment component, although not quite as upscale as what's on offer at PVM.

I think as Quad Windsor builds out etc., the centre of gravity of downtown will creep towards the Bell Centre area more and more. I'm not sure this is a deliberate move, but just the consequence of so much mixed use development.

1000 has no retail or entertainment component that I know of, save for the skating ring. It’s just a straight office tower. Place Ville-Marie will not loose its title as the epicentre of downtown anytime soon. Even the 1000´s bus center will become irrelevant once the REM opens. PVM is presently revamping its esplanade and shopping center in a big way and McGill College will soon be closed to traffic and completely transformed into the newest and most probably the busiest public place in the city, in addition to having the McGill REM station link with the McGill green line metro station. What’s being build around the Bell Center are mostly just condo towers.

There are rumours that a major office tower will be build above Central Station in the coming years and that will only consolidate the heart of the city around PVM and Central station.

The problem with 1000, if that’s even a problem, is that it is located at the southern edge of downtown, almost at the limit of Griffintown. It will never replace PVM and neither will the Bell Center.

I think this map speaks for itself:

https://montrealundergroundcity.com/

Zeej · #**10334** Posted **Mar 31, 2019, 2:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

Mtlurb

1000 has no retail or entertainment component that I know of, save for the skating ring. It’s just a straight office tower. Place Ville-Marie will not loose its title as the epicentre of downtown anytime soon. Even the 1000´s bus center will become irrelevant once the REM opens. PVM is presently revamping its esplanade and shopping center in a big way and McGill College will soon be closed to traffic and completely transformed into the newest and most probably the busiest public place in the city, in addition to having the McGill REM station link with the McGill green line metro station. What’s being build around the Bell Center are mostly just condo towers.

There are rumours that a major office tower will be build above Central Station in the coming years and that will only consolidate the heart of the city around PVM and Central station.

The problem with 1000, if that’s even a problem, is that it is located at the southern edge of downtown, almost at the limit of Griffintown. It will never replace PVM and neither will the Bell Center.

I think this map speaks for itself:

https://montrealundergroundcity.com/

I mean, there are quite legitimately some shops (albeit lousy ones), a gym (on the st. antoine side) and even a globe car rental spot in the 1000, in addition to the food court and skating rink.

https://www.le1000.com/en/shop/stores

My argument was not that 1000 is at the heart of downtown, but rather simply that it was conceived in a way similar to PVM at the time, 30 years ago. I'm also not stating that the Bell Centre area will become the new heart of downtown either. Just that with the increased activity there, the area will have more pull so to speak, relative to what there was before. Just the fact that there's a Provigo in L'Avenue is a step in the right direction for the influx of residents moving to the area.

Rico Rommheim · #**10335** Posted **Mar 31, 2019, 4:11 AM**

Le 1000 may very well become 'the centre' once Quad Windsor is completed and Griffintown begins to be considered as an extension of downtown the same way that the mcgill ghetto is.

Le 1000 does have the future on its side, it harbours the suburban bus terminal, it is directly connected to Bonaventure metro and central station via underground tunnels and once the REM comes online it will be that much busier. Let's not forget that downtown development is trending southward, Le 1000 will be a lot less lonely quite soon. The height limit will however reduce Le 1000's imposition, as future projects will undountably also reach the height limit.

Chadillaccc · #**10336** Posted **Mar 31, 2019, 4:36 AM**

Calgary Pre Dawn by Dave King, on Flickr

Autumn Afternoon over Calgary by Adam Fallwell, on Flickr

New Year 2019 Calgary by Bluesky251, on Flickr

Martin Mtl · #**10337** Posted **Mar 31, 2019, 8:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

Le 1000 may very well become 'the centre' once Quad Windsor is completed and Griffintown begins to be considered as an extension of downtown the same way that the mcgill ghetto is.

Le 1000 does have the future on its side, it harbours the suburban bus terminal, it is directly connected to Bonaventure metro and central station via underground tunnels and once the REM comes online it will be that much busier. Let's not forget that downtown development is trending southward, Le 1000 will be a lot less lonely quite soon. The height limit will however reduce Le 1000's imposition, as future projects will undountably also reach the height limit.

The REM will make PVM and Gare Centrale busier, not the 1000. And Quad Windsor is too small to make much of an impact.

isaidso · #**10338** Posted **Mar 31, 2019, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

The REM will make PVM and Gare Centrale busier, not the 1000. And Quad Windsor is too small to make much of an impact.

Won't it all fill in eventually? In 30 years Place Desjardins might feel central.

Rico Rommheim · #**10339** Posted **Mar 31, 2019, 6:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

The REM will make PVM and Gare Centrale busier, not the 1000. And Quad Windsor is too small to make much of an impact.

Since Bonaventure metro is directly under Le 1000 and is directly connected to gare centrale via tunnel, I could totally see the lower downtown area getting busier.

Djesus777 · #**10340** Posted **Mar 31, 2019, 6:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

Le 1000 may very well become 'the centre' once Quad Windsor is completed and Griffintown begins to be considered as an extension of downtown the same way that the mcgill ghetto is.

Le 1000 does have the future on its side, it harbours the suburban bus terminal, it is directly connected to Bonaventure metro and central station via underground tunnels and once the REM comes online it will be that much busier. Let's not forget that downtown development is trending southward, Le 1000 will be a lot less lonely quite soon. The height limit will however reduce Le 1000's imposition, as future projects will undountably also reach the height limit.

Griffintown is already considered to be part of downtown Montreal.