CHICAGO: ORD & MDW discussion - Page 133

LouisVanDerWright · #**2641** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 4:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by tm30

Studio Gang wins ORD contract

https://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...327-story.html

Just watched the video on this project, it's wayyy cooler than I thought. It's a municipal device shaped building with a six point star skylight in the middle.

F1 Tommy · #**2642** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 4:37 PM**

Should look very nice. I liked the Calatrava best but I am sure it would have been full of problems and cost overruns. We still need a full size Calatrava design in our city. The sculpture does not count!!

italy5150 · #**2643** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by k1052

I was actually hoping they would have picked Gang for the new satellite concourses instead. Still hoping they did since I don't see any mention yet.

The satellite concourses will be designed by the runner-up in the design contest, so it will be one of the other four groups that submitted proposals for the OGT. Not sure what their plan is for announcing the runner-up.

Busy Bee · #**2644** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 4:57 PM**

Hmm

k1052 · #**2645** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by italy5150

The satellite concourses will be designed by the runner-up in the design contest, so it will be one of the other four groups that submitted proposals for the OGT. Not sure what their plan is for announcing the runner-up.

My post was meant as hoping they changed their minds about splitting it now.

k1052 · #**2646** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy

We still need a full size Calatrava design in our city.

A private developer can pay for one.

Via Chicago · #**2647** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:02 PM**

selecting a different team for the other buildings seems like adding just another layer of complexity and bureaucracy, and at the same time sacrificing the aesthetic unity that could have come from having one team do the whole thing

i always preferred the foster proposal, but i can definitely come around to this choice

the urban politician · #**2648** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:10 PM**

Project not to start till 2023? Wow, seems so far away timewise

galleyfox · #**2649** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Project not to start till 2023? Wow, seems so far away timewise

They have to build the satellite terminals first so that the airlines currently in Terminal 2 have a home when that terminal is demolished and replaced.

r18tdi · #**2650** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:28 PM**

I really liked how Calatrava moved the ATS to be part of the new terminals facade. Oh well, Studio ORD is fine too.

jc5680 · #**2651** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by k1052

I was actually hoping they would have picked Gang for the new satellite concourses instead. Still hoping they did since I don't see any mention yet.

Not sure about the trib article, but in Crains they say:

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Officials said only, “In the coming months, a second team will be selected from the remaining four finalists” for that work.

They also rather cryptically point out:

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Though Studio ORD has been tapped as the winner of the design competition, it is not yet guaranteed the project. Says the statement, the city “will now enter into contract negotiations with Studio ORD,” and only after that process is done will work begin.

trvlr70 · #**2652** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:48 PM**

This is a solid choice. Gang has truly done no wrong in Chicago. The look is very Gang = very Chicago.

woodrow · #**2653** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by jc5680

Not sure about the trib article, but in Crains they say:

They also rather cryptically point out:

I remember that being discussed earlier in the processs. The satellite concourses were always going to be picked from the remaining 4 finalists. That must be a $1 billion+ contract itself. As to it not being "guaranteed," being selected as the winner is the first step, signing a contract is the next step. Time for the lawyers.

woodrow · #**2654** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:52 PM**

As for the pick, Gang went from my 3rd choice, to my 1st choice, to settling in at 2nd, after Foster.

jc5680 · #**2655** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 6:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by woodrow

I remember that being discussed earlier in the processs. The satellite concourses were always going to be picked from the remaining 4 finalists. That must be a $1 billion+ contract itself. As to it not being "guaranteed," being selected as the winner is the first step, signing a contract is the next step. Time for the lawyers.

Right, I was replying to someone who thought the choice of a second finalist for the concourse might not still be the plan.

galleyfox · #**2656** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 6:44 PM**

http://www.ord21.com/About/Pages/Survey-Results.aspx

Oh good, the survey results are available. Calatrava and Foster were more or less tied for the lead, and Studo ORD in third nipping at their heels.

Clearly, a lot of Chicagoans were rooting for a hometown architect, and Studio Gang was their choice.

the urban politician · #**2657** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by galleyfox

http://www.ord21.com/About/Pages/Survey-Results.aspx

Oh good, the survey results are available. Calatrava and Foster were more or less tied for the lead, and Studo ORD in third nipping at their heels.

How did you go from the above....

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Clearly, a lot of Chicagoans were rooting for a hometown architect, and Studio Gang was their choice.

To this conclusion?

Third place doesn't suggest that Gang was "Chicagoan's choice"

Via Chicago · #**2658** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by galleyfox

http://www.ord21.com/About/Pages/Survey-Results.aspx

Oh good, the survey results are available. Calatrava and Foster were more or less tied for the lead, and Studo ORD in third nipping at their heels.

Clearly, a lot of Chicagoans were rooting for a hometown architect, and Studio Gang was their choice.

i mean, clearly the poll had little impact on the actual decision. if it did, Foster or Calatrava would have won.

kbud · #**2659** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 7:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Project not to start till 2023? Wow, seems so far away timewise

4 years to break ground, that is insane. China builds entire new airports in less time. Are they waiting for T5 to be done? There has to be work they can do in parallel, like starting on the satellites.

Via Chicago · #**2660** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by kbud

China builds entire new airports in less time.

China is a centrally planned economy growing at 7% GDP, also completely lacking in worker safety/construction regulations, environmental considerations, human rights concerns etc. I think we can agree there are fundamental differences that will prevent such construction timelines in the US in 2019.