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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 1:06 PM
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Agree Old&New, I like it a lot as far as the existing redo of the corner structure. The city should require that parking structure to have a decently dense mid-rise of at least 10 to 13 floors above it, as everyone is suggesting. Also, the street side of the parking structure should be wrapped by residential/commercial.

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Not sure if this rendering is old or not, or still the plan, first time I'm seeing it. Looks great to me. Would be better with a tower above the parking structure.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 1:53 PM
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I came across this 2018 Colliers International Report article this morning. Interesting to me, because it was so effusive about SLC, and brought up some of the market issues which we had been discussing recently. The article points out some of those important demographic stats that professionals look at when considering major expansion into the Salt Lake City market. Among other things note the age groups such as millennials, importance of the continued population boom and expansion of the Wasatch. I think also noteworthy is Southeastern Idaho's continued boom as an important consideration.

In particular, I thought there were some interesting parallels that could be drawn for future Major League Sports Franchise expansion into the Wasatch. For example, the five year growth prediction of the market is at least an 8% population increase. Figure that by the time the next Olympics in 2026 or 30 rolls around, the Wasatch should be positioned much more favorably for an MLB/NHL/ or maybe even an NFL franchise.

Not sure why they're not including St. George in the market, but I don't think that St. George would be beholding only to Vegas, even if Vegas is a lot closer. How the sports fans devotion would split in a larger future St. George metro would be interesting.

The rate that Salt Lake City and MSA/CSA is expanding not only it's population, but the expansion of it's warehousing, manufacturing and commercial/business services for the local, regional, national and international market is astounding. I think taller towers and major league franchises are a no brainer over the next decade. Perhaps the second half of the next decade, but the next decade still. In the mean time we'll just have to be satisfied with record growth and expansion on all fronts.

U.S. Industrial Market Spotlight: Salt Lake County

By James Breeze - National Director of Industrial Research for Colliers International - https://knowledge-leader.colliers.co...t-lake-county/


“New entrants to the Salt Lake County industrial market include Amazon’s approximately 2.2 million-square-foot multi-level/multi-building lease, UPS’ 875,000-square-foot regional processing facility, which is one of UPS’ largest processing facilities across the globe, and Stadler Rail’s only U.S.-based manufacturing facility and test track. These entrants to our market give new credence to our state song “Utah, this is the Place,” and will unquestionably lead the way to a bigger and brighter Utah.

Salt Lake County’s recent influx of large industrial users, airport expansion, proactive government and continued positive press will keep Utah in record setting territory throughout 2018. Developers will continue to acquire land and construction starts and deliveries will continue to be above average. Tenant activity will remain high, keeping vacancy low and lease rates will continue to increase. The owner-user market will continue to experience heavy demand with a lack of available product, which will keep prices high. Cap rate compression will continue in Class A institutional-grade product, drawing sellers out and leading to additional sales.” — Rusty Bollow, Senior Vice President, Salt Lake City, UT

KEY STRENGTHS:
The Salt Lake County industrial market continues to see growth. Since 2012, developers and owner-users have added more than 15 million square feet to our industrial base, lease rates have increased in almost all product types, speculative development continues to flourish and direct vacancy continues to drop. Utah will remain one of the fastest growing states in the nation, and it is expected to grow by an additional 8% in the next five years. Its continued additions and improvements to existing road infrastructure as well as the potential availability of 3,500 acres of newly developable industrial land within a 15-minute drive of downtown Salt Lake City, have all contributed to keeping Utah in the nation’s spotlight. As of December 2017, the Economic Development Corporation of Utah has had 56 open industrial projects.



Nearly four million people live within 250 miles of the market’s core. The region also has a strong millennial population, as 23.4% of the people living within 50 miles of Salt Lake City’s core are within this age bracket. The population is projected to grow by 8% in the region in the next five years. This growth, along with Salt Lake’s central location, is making it a popular destination for regional and final-mile distributors. Demand to get products into and out of the region is increasing and has led to a major expansion of the Salt Lake International Airport. The airport, which is ranked 24th in the country in air cargo, recently completed a $3 billion expansion to better serve passengers and cargo companies.

VACANCY:
The Salt Lake County industrial market, which totals 135 million square feet of existing space, saw vacancy rates drop the first half of 2018 to an all-time low of 3.2%. Vacancy rates are lowest in product under 20,000 square feet, with less than 2% of the existing stock currently vacant. Vacancy rates increased slightly in product over 100,000 square feet to 4.2% at midyear. Despite this rise, vacancy rates are very low compared with tenants in the market and more development is warranted to quench this demand.

ABSORPTION:
The market is one of the fastest growing markets in the country, and continues to post positive absorption despite the record low vacancy rates. Over 1.1 million square feet of occupancy gains occurred the first half of 2018. With new leasing projected to be strong along with large build-to-suit occupancies in the second half of 2018, the market will finish with its seventh consecutive year of positive absorption.

DEVELOPMENT:
Developers and owner-users continue to break ground on new industrial buildings despite continually increasing land and construction costs. In fact, 2017 was the largest year on record for new construction deliveries with 3,970,641 square feet reaching completion. 2018 is looking to be very similar to last year, with a current 2,253,098 square feet of construction completed and a decade high 4,437,045 square feet currently under construction.

Recently delivered properties include Post Foods 903,000-square-foot distribution building, Seefried’s 500,000-square-foot speculative distribution building and Price’s 300,000-square-foot build-to-suit for Keystone Automotive Industries. Notable building deliveries planned for 2018 include Amazon’s 857,173-square-foot build-to-suit, UPS’ 870,000-square-foot build-to-suit, Hamilton Partners’ two-building speculative project totaling 472,362 square feet and RWK’s speculative 214,391 square feet building.

ASKING RENTS:
The Salt Lake County industrial leasing market remains strong. This fact coupled with declining vacancy rates has provided landlords with the long-awaited opportunity to increase rents. The overall average rental rate for 2018 was $5.40 per square foot triple net (NNN), which is a $0.48 increase over this time last year. General purpose buildings saw the greatest rental rate increase in 2018 with rents increasing by $1.20 per square foot, followed by incubator and bulk distribution buildings, which posted gains of $0.72 and $0.48 per square foot.

Lease rates will strengthen over the remainder of 2018 as higher land and construction costs force landlords to increase rents. Asking lease rates for first-generation space have increased by as much as 30%, with medium distribution and incubator buildings being the most heavily affected by these increases. Salt Lake City continues to gain interest from out-of-state investors and was recently named in a report produced annually by PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP in collaboration with the Urban Land Institute as the #3 most desirable U.S. market for real estate investment and development. It’s important to note that Salt Lake is the smallest real estate market to ever crack the top 10 on this list. Salt Lake City is positioned, now more than ever, to take advantage of what should continue to be a very robust investment market...Read More: https://knowledge-leader.colliers.co...t-lake-county/


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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 3:14 PM
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The recent posts lately have been excellent! Thank you for sharing the info. It’s very encouraging to see that our area is listed as #3 for investment and development on a national level. We need that kind of exposure nationally. delts post with the map showing our population highlights the fact that we are indeed a population island in the interior west which has been a headwind in terms of attracting outside developers. This is encouraging news that this trend will soon be changing. As the economy will eventually cool, hopefully our regional growth and strength will attract more outside investors. That’s the hope at least. I’ve become concerned with housing prices as of late, our low cost of living used to be a positive factor for attracting businesses. I’m curious if anyone has information comparing our housing costs and cost of living to nearby cities and markets of similar size?
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 3:58 PM
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A couple of recent analogies by highly respected financial gurus is that the worry is not so much of a pending recession self generated nationally, but a softening due to the global sluggishness, which in turn can effect the U.S. export market.

Perhaps, until the global market gets its financial act together, the U.S. national strength will continue to attract even more international investment. The past would show us that when global markets falter or soften, a strong U.S. economy becomes very attractive as the global investment alternative. We've seen this particularly with national markets like the Wasatch Front, which has a very attractively diverse economy, growth rate, and is strategically positioned for air/highway/and rail transportation to the West Coast populous and also its gateway ports.

The future potential of the new Int. Airport and Salt Lake's Inland Port's importance continues to grow.

It will be interesting to see how much the predicted Quarter 1 national growth slowdown to around 1.5% to 2.0% would effect the Wasatch economy. Could be that the Wasatch economy will remain relatively unscathed. Many national markets are much more vulnerable than Salt Lake's. Would that free up some of the national construction labor that the Wasatch so desperately needs to import?

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2019 will be a BIG year for Sugarhouse!

5-6 Projects to be completed:
1) Sugarmont Apartments - 352 residential units - 8 floors



2) Springhill Suites - 125 hotel rooms - 6 floors


Projects 3-5: Park Avenue SLC


3) Park Avenue Building A: 80 Park (University Clinic) - 170,000 square feet - 5 floors


4) Park Avenue Building B: 60 Park - 150,000 square feet commercial office - 6 floors (may be early 2020)


5) Completion of Stringham Avenue


6. New Nordstrom Rack to replace TOYS R US Building - 36,000 square feet of retail
(should be finished by the end of Spring, I believe)

2 Projects likely to start construction:
1) Park Avenue Building C: 40 Park - 208 residential units - 7 floors (2 floors are parking)


2) Dixon Place - 59 residential units - 6 floors


It is also likely we will receive more proposals for new projects in 2019 (still waiting for more on Sugar Alley (former site of the Dixon Office Building proposal))
Though Sugarhouse is likely approaching the point where it is being considered nearly built out.
P.S. Sorry for the large pictures. I can't figure out a way to make them smaller. Any pointers?
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 2:20 AM
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Dakota Pacific specializes in strip malls, all things suburban, and structures under 4 stories. How promising.
At least they have a portfolio, unlike the previous owners. I'm sure they'll be looking for a partner who has more experience with this caliber of development.
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So the Dixon Medical Office building that was proposed is different than Dixon Place?
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Update as of 01/02/2019

The property located at 45 East 200 South which was owned by Regent 200, LLC has been deeded to a new owner. The new owner is Dakota Pacific Regent, LLC.

The new owner's address is
299 South Main Street #2450
Salt Lake City, Utah 84101

https://dakotapacific.com/
This is great news. Dakota Pacific is a top 10 builder in Salt Lake that has projects all over the country and a huge investor and partner base. The price, size and shape of that parcel pretty much guarantees a tower.
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Is there really 1.2 million people in the blue area?



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It must be including Boise,
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It must be including Boise,
Boise is over 250 miles from SLC and is further west of that circle. It looks like it includes the Magic Valley; Twin Falls. If there was a similar article written for Boise the impact would also include the Twin Falls area and Northern Nevada.
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It must be including Boise,
I'd say the biggest cities/metros in the blue circle would be Pocatello, IF, TF, Grand Junction.

Edit: grand junction is out of range

I cant see 1.2 million in that circle without Boise (which, as stated, is not in the circle)
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Just an update on this, Unico actually did submit a CBSDR for a development on this site 2 days ago:

https://citizenportal.slcgov.com/Cit...howInspection=

Keep an eye out for any attachments! I wonder why they need to do a CBSDR. I doubt it's because it's over 375 feet...but you never know.

It is this corner, in case any of you are wondering:

Looks like it's just another multifamily building. 8 stories, 283 units. Old building will be demolished. They're actually looking at getting approval to build lower than the minimum height for the corner, though the tallest portion of the building will reach the minimum height of 100 feet.







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That is a disappointing design. Not a fan of the giant gap for the resident turnaround. It doesn't look like the street is activated at all.
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Looks like it's just another multifamily building. 8 stories, 283 units. Old building will be demolished. They're actually looking at getting approval to build lower than the minimum height for the corner, though the tallest portion of the building will reach the minimum height of 100 feet.

I don't mind it at all considering what is there now is a big dead white Deathstar lump. I think the courtyard breaks up the block face nicely. Some retail would be nice however. That corner is juicy but it's also too close to the Methodist church across the street for an alcohol license, which limits the sexiness.
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These entrants to our market give new credence to our state song “Utah, this is the Place,” and will unquestionably lead the way to a bigger and brighter Utah.
Didn’t know Utah had a state song, just listened to it and am now extremely embarrassed, especially considering the world class songwriters and musicians that originated from Utah and/or call Utah home. I think we can do much much much better. It was like the office levels of awkward and feeling flush in the face.
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A couple of recent analogies by highly respected financial gurus is that the worry is not so much of a pending recession self generated nationally, but a softening due to the global sluggishness, which in turn can effect the U.S. export market.

Perhaps, until the global market gets its financial act together, the U.S. national strength will continue to attract even more international investment. The past would show us that when global markets falter or soften, a strong U.S. economy becomes very attractive as the global investment alternative. We've seen this particularly with national markets like the Wasatch Front, which has a very attractively diverse economy, growth rate, and is strategically positioned for air/highway/and rail transportation to the West Coast populous and also its gateway ports.

The future potential of the new Int. Airport and Salt Lake's Inland Port's importance continues to grow.

It will be interesting to see how much the predicted Quarter 1 national growth slowdown to around 1.5% to 2.0% would effect the Wasatch economy. Could be that the Wasatch economy will remain relatively unscathed. Many national markets are much more vulnerable than Salt Lake's. Would that free up some of the national construction labor that the Wasatch so desperately needs to import?
I don’t think we want outside international investment/development; that would mean US property being bought up and owned by foreign entities where all profit minus tax (if there’s not some loophole to them not paying tax) leaves our economy. This is what has been killing Portland recently. Mostly Chinese investors are buying up property, raising rents (which local businesses can’t always afford, and so the leave) and all you’re left with are chain stores. And then that money goes offshore.
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Is there really 1.2 million people in the blue area?



What are you asking? There’s more than 1.2 million in the smallest circle. Says there are 3.9 - 4 million inside the blue circle.
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What are you asking? There’s more than 1.2 million in the smallest circle. Says there are 3.9 - 4 million inside the blue circle.
He's talking about the people living in the blue colored portion of the circle, not including the people in the inner 100 mile radius circle.

Personally I don't find it too hard to believe. They're measuring as the crow flies I believe, which means Grand Junction is in the circle. There are around 500,000 people in southeastern Idaho alone. And the portion in Utah covers pretty much all of southern and eastern Utah, though not St George. That's about another 350,000. Colorado and Wyoming portions probably add another ~400,000. Easten Nevada probably doesn't add much because there aren't so many towns in the desert.
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He's talking about the people living in the blue colored portion of the circle, not including the people in the inner 100 mile radius circle.

Personally I don't find it too hard to believe. They're measuring as the crow flies I believe, which means Grand Junction is in the circle. There are around 500,000 people in southeastern Idaho alone. And the portion in Utah covers pretty much all of southern and eastern Utah, though not St George. That's about another 350,000. Colorado and Wyoming portions probably add another ~400,000. Easten Nevada probably doesn't add much because there aren't so many towns in the desert.
ah, makes sense.
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