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Old Posted Mar 22, 2019, 8:53 PM
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Luckily in twenty years the blue box phenom will be hopefully behind us. Thank god.
Where do we go from "blue boxes"? Glass doesn't appear to be going anywhere as far as a building standard for taller buildings. So we're either just talking a different color glass, or something not shaped like a box. With my great appreciation for the grid system, I'd prefer a box with some nice details, a la OCS, over some oddly shaped neo futuristic building.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2019, 9:06 PM
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As long as the sky is blue and glass is reflective "Blue boxes" are pretty much here to stay.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2019, 9:27 PM
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Glass is cheap, it looks good, and it gives occupants great views, so it gets used. This hasn't always been the case, so until there's a material that's cheaper to use than glass, glass will continue to be used. With the energy code requiring a percentage of building area to be opaque you have to get creative, but you still maximize vision glass.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2019, 9:32 PM
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Glass is cheap, it looks good, and it gives occupants great views, so it gets used. This hasn't always been the case, so until there's a material that's cheaper to use than glass, glass will continue to be used. With the energy code requiring a percentage of building area to be opaque you have to get creative, but you still maximize vision glass.
OCS looks to be curtain wall in the renderings. I'd assume JDL (a developer that has proved to us they do not skimp) should purchase a quality product. I'm sure this will end up being an absolute stunner. Also there is nothing similar in that area of the city. It will stand out, in the best way possible.

Fun fact while on the topic of cladding. I recently found out that the architects almost chose white Italian marble for Sears Tower until Alcoa lowered their aluminum prices. Imagine Sears clad like Water Tower Place. Wild to think about...
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2019, 10:13 PM
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Fun fact while on the topic of cladding. I recently found out that the architects almost chose white Italian marble for Sears Tower until Alcoa lowered their aluminum prices. Imagine Sears clad like Water Tower Place. Wild to think about...
That's crazy. Thanks for sharing.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2019, 2:31 AM
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^^ We need a rendering of that
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2019, 7:07 PM
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^^ We need a rendering of that
Agreed! Looking at you @rgarri4!
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 3:00 PM
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^^ We need a rendering of that
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Agreed! Looking at you @rgarri4!
I didn't make a render but maybe this 2 minute photoshop I did will do.

     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 3:21 PM
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I'm rooting for an era of bronze/amber glass like those 1970's glasses your grandma served you kool-aid in. I'm serious actually.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 3:25 PM
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I'm rooting for an era of bronze/amber glass like those 1970's glasses your grandma served you kool-aid in. I'm serious actually.
I'm still waiting on the world's first tudor style supertall.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 3:44 PM
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^How was that not done in the PoMo era? Perhaps with an enormous rooster weathervane on top. I'm sure it was on their to-do list.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 6:31 PM
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^How was that not done in the PoMo era? Perhaps with an enormous rooster weathervane on top. I'm sure it was on their to-do list.
Ha, with half timbers working their way up over 1000 feet. And a crossbow guard tower every 50 feet or so.

In my mind it would be more brick or stone and resemble closer to tudor castle/tower structures.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 6:54 PM
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I'm rooting for an era of bronze/amber glass like those 1970's glasses your grandma served you kool-aid in. I'm serious actually.
Agreed, there's something cool about amber glass but I don't realistically see it coming back anytime soon. You never know, though.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 10:09 PM
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Terra. Cotta. Everything.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 10:32 PM
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Ha, with half timbers working their way up over 1000 feet. And a crossbow guard tower every 50 feet or so.

In my mind it would be more brick or stone and resemble closer to tudor castle/tower structures.
Haha this actually sounds great, you could actually make a supertall design in this style without it being too cartoonishly removed from actual designs of that era...
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2019, 10:38 PM
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Terra. Cotta. Everything.
Yaaaasssss

this is probably the favorite material on skyscrapers and it works so well on modern designs still.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 12:26 AM
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Haha this actually sounds great, you could actually make a supertall design in this style without it being too cartoonishly removed from actual designs of that era...
London tudor supertall confirmed!

     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 7:59 AM
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Tudor highrise architecture makes no sense. Sullivan would turn in his grave.

So-called “Tudor Revival” residential architecture that doesn’t use correct materials and gets many of the architectural elements wrong is bad enough.

Neo-Gothic at least made some semblance of sense because Gothic buildings soared. The Cathedrals were the skyscrapers of their day. Even then having a bunch of non-load bearing flying buttresses is pretty silly.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 8:55 AM
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I'm still waiting on the world's first tudor style supertall.
This literally made me laugh so hard, my belly hurts. Thank you for that. Conjures quite the visual.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2019, 1:00 PM
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^One of the world's first skyscrapers, the Masonic Temple, at the northeast corner of State and Randolph, could arguably be called 'tudor'... look it up and check out the detail below the hipped roofs...
     
     
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