The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

What are these in kilometer length?

Ottawa's rail progress:

2001 - 8 km - 5 stations
2019 - 20.5 km - 17 stations
2025 - 64 km - 41 stations

Stage 3 - 87.5 km - 58 stations

I unfortunately don't have numbers for the BRT network.

[Harrison]

Edmonton's 2018 LRT network:

Capital Line - 21 km
Metro Line - 3.3 km

Total - 24.3 km

Edmonton's 2021 LRT network (approved lines only):

Capital Line - 21 km
Metro Line - 3.3 km
Valley Line (Phase 1) - 13.1 km

Total - 37.4 km

Edmonton's 2026 LRT network (approved lines only):

Capital Line - 21 km
Metro Line (+Blatchford extension) - 4.8 km
Valley Line (+ Phase 2) - 27.1 km

Total - 52.9 km

Edmonton's 2040 LRT network (approved lines only):

Capital Line (+ north and south extensions) - 28.4 km
Metro Line (+ northwest extension) - 15.8 km
Valley Line - 27.1 km

Total - 71.3 km

[Coldrsx]

^thank you!

[Chadillaccc]

That's awesome. The three cities will finally be near parity with each other's LRT networks! Fantastic news. Also really stoked to be in Ottawa for Bingham Cup next year and try out the subway


For Calgary, we're currently at 60 km and 45 stations.


Funded extensions:

Green Line Phase 1 - 20 km, 14 stations


Total 2026 - 80 km, 59 stations



Approved extensions:

Green Line Phase 2 - 24 km, 14 stations


Total 2030 - 104 km, 73 stations



Proposed extensions:

Red Line South Extension - 3.5 km, 2 stations

Red Line Subway - 3.5 km, 3 stations

Blue Line NE Extension - 7 km, 5 stations

Airport Line - 3 km, 3 stations

Blue Line West Extension - 2 km, 2 stations


Total 2040: 123 km, 88 stations



I'd imagine of the proposed ones, the Airport Line and Blue Line NE will be the first to go through, likely around 2030.

[Dr Awesomesauce]

That downtown Ottawa station looks really nice. Looking forward to trying it out!

[The Chemist]

Originally Posted by milomilo

Then it's a meaningless promise.

Yes, when the phrase used is 'city wide' without defining what that actually means, it is very ambiguous and doesn't really count as a true promise.

For a true quantifiable promise, one only has to look at what Shanghai's plans are - by 2025, everywhere in the central city (that is, inside the Outer Ring Road, an area approximately the size of the City of Calgary) will be within 600m of a Metro station.

Obviously, comparing apples to oranges here, but my point is that 'city wide‘ is totally vague and doesn't really mean anything.

[J.OT13]

Well, the City of Ottawa is proud to say that 77% of residents will be within 5 km of rail after Stage 2 (2025). Unless they make major improvements to the local bus network, that doesn't mean much. Worth noting that Ottawa is 2,778 square kilometers, not that it makes much of a difference because 90% are concentrated in an area of about 800 square kilometers.

[Chadillaccc]

Calgary is now home to the largest CNG transit facility in North America

Daily Hive Calgary | March 12, 2019

With the opening of the Stoney Transit Facility on March 12, Calgary became home to the continent’s biggest facility focused on environmentally beneficial Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) buses, according to a release from the City of Calgary.

The facility comes in at a whopping 44,300 square metres and has enough room to house over 470 40-ft-long buses — many of which are brand new additions to YYC’s fleet.

“I’m so pleased that our fleet of CNG buses are now part of our Calgary Transit fleet,” said Mayor Naheed Nenshi, in the release.

“Investments in transit are among the best investments any city can make — they are investments in the environment, reducing congestion and improving mobility.”

The release also noted that the transition to CNG buses will save taxpayers in the city more than $4 million in fuel costs per year.

Full details here: https://dailyhive.com/calgary/calgary-home-largest-transit-facility-north-america

[J.OT13]

Interesting how the oil capital of Canada continuously finds ways to power their transit system with green energy. The C-Train's solar power is the best example.

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Interesting how the oil capital of Canada continuously finds ways to power their transit system with green energy. The C-Train's solar power is the best example.

Yeah I love it as well. Just a minor correction though, the C-train is wind energy, not solar. But I imagine with the numerous solar investments recently and the new city-funded solar plant in the SE quadrant, the Green Line will probably have a significant solar power component.

[milomilo]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Interesting how the oil capital of Canada continuously finds ways to power their transit system with green energy. The C-Train's solar power is the best example.

That's an accounting scam, it uses the exact same power as everyone else in Calgary.

[milomilo]

Originally Posted by The Chemist

Yes, when the phrase used is 'city wide' without defining what that actually means, it is very ambiguous and doesn't really count as a true promise.

For a true quantifiable promise, one only has to look at what Shanghai's plans are - by 2025, everywhere in the central city (that is, inside the Outer Ring Road, an area approximately the size of the City of Calgary) will be within 600m of a Metro station.

Obviously, comparing apples to oranges here, but my point is that 'city wide‘ is totally vague and doesn't really mean anything.

Totally agree.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Yeah I love it as well. Just a minor correction though, the C-train is wind energy, not solar. But I imagine with the numerous solar investments recently and the new city-funded solar plant in the SE quadrant, the Green Line will probably have a significant solar power component.

Right!

I forgot. Thanks for clearing that up!!

[Reecemartin]

Hey guys, a new station video we made for Waterloo here:

https://youtu.be/wq4N8aKWLfc

[Dengler Avenue]

I don’t know if this is the place to post, but Canada’s grounded all 737-Max 8.

[osmo]

Originally Posted by The Chemist

Yes, when the phrase used is 'city wide' without defining what that actually means, it is very ambiguous and doesn't really count as a true promise.

For a true quantifiable promise, one only has to look at what Shanghai's plans are - by 2025, everywhere in the central city (that is, inside the Outer Ring Road, an area approximately the size of the City of Calgary) will be within 600m of a Metro station.

Obviously, comparing apples to oranges here, but my point is that 'city wide‘ is totally vague and doesn't really mean anything.

Are you able to provide a source or data for this ?

I ask because this just does not seem accurate. Calgary is well known for be disproportionately large in land area elective for its population. Calgary is larger the New York City, Toronto, Chicago. China uses non-conventional ways to calculate it's land area for cities, growing them to cover tracts of forests and such to artificially grow land area. Central Shanghai is roughly 300 Sq.km. which is much smaller than the city of Calgary.

Calgary is one of the largest cites based on area relative to its size in earth. It is 2/3rds the size of Los Angeles and nearly the same in comparison to Greater London. The size and scope of the of the city's land area is gonna different level (one reason is that with a later boom Calgary did not create suburbs early and thus just had free ability to continue to sprawl outwards).

Now in saying all that, the amount of trackage that Calgary has been able to put down and operate while dealing with such large size challenges is impressive.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by osmo

Are you able to provide a source or data for this ?

I ask because this just does not seem accurate. Calgary is well known for be disproportionately large in land area elective for its population. Calgary is larger the New York City, Toronto, Chicago. China uses non-conventional ways to calculate it's land area for cities, growing them to cover tracts of forests and such to artificially grow land area. Central Shanghai is roughly 300 Sq.km. which is much smaller than the city of Calgary.

Calgary is one of the largest cites based on area relative to its size in earth. It is 2/3rds the size of Los Angeles and nearly the same in comparison to Greater London. The size and scope of the of the city's land area is gonna different level (one reason is that with a later boom Calgary did not create suburbs early and thus just had free ability to continue to sprawl outwards).

Now in saying all that, the amount of trackage that Calgary has been able to put down and operate while dealing with such large size challenges is impressive.

You think Calgary is big?


https://ottawastart.com/how-big-is-ottawa/

[SFUVancouver]

^ That's a very questionable map.

Yes, the City of Vancouver is 114km2, but Metro Vancouver is 2,882 km2.

[osmo]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

You think Calgary is big?


https://ottawastart.com/how-big-is-ottawa/

Ottawa is a political Frankenstein project. Current Ottawa never came about naturally and was purely politics, I don't compare it as it is suburban heavy just like sprawl places like Houston and Atlanta. Calgary is unique in that it didn't grow from townships or eat suburbs for growth, it just free as an organic single city. Calgary is a cohesive land area with urban living and activities taking place within the majority of the land area, this is not the case for Ottawa with it's greenbelt and farmlands thrown into the mix.

[osmo]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

^ That's a very questionable map.

Yes, the City of Vancouver is 114km2, but Metro Vancouver is 2,882 km2.

It is valid for the comparisons as listed are all the cities by thier city land area (not metro).