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Multi-modal · #**9681** Posted **Mar 6, 2019, 10:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTownandDown

I blame that on Bresnehan. She started it by being pushy and indignant herself.

Fair enough, I did find her opening question a bit agressive. This was just my take on it immediately after the interview. I admit "fire Manconi" was probably a bit of a brash statement to make.

OTownandDown · #**9682** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 2:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

When a train gets stuck in the snow and is towed back to the maintenance yard and this becomes public, it has to be addressed. Test operations are not being run under some black cloak of secrecy. We all can go down to the right of way and watch what is happening.

Sure, reporting on that story sounds like a crazy thing!

But what right do we have to know what's happening, had the CBC not reported on it? If there was no reporting on it, nobody would have known, and this wouldn't be a problem, and the executives at RTG wouldn't have to waste their time coming up with appropriate responses.

How do you know that getting a train stuck in the snow wasn't intentional?

If I was responsible for running a train line for 30 years, and only had a couple months to test the line to see what it's limits are, I can guarantee you that I'd try to run the system into the ground and fail everything, just so I could know what my limits are for the future. Perhaps the whole reason for the test was to run a single train, with no protection, with no snowplows, in a crazy snow storm, just to see what it takes to ground a train. Future surprises that will completely halt the line will now be reduced, because the people responsible for running the system know what it takes.

HighwayStar · #**9683** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 3:00 PM**

this.

The engineer in me had exactly the same thought when I first heard about this "incident".

OTownandDown · #**9684** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 4:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by HighwayStar

this.

The engineer in me had exactly the same thought when I first heard about this "incident".

Chianello again said on the radio this morning that she lives in Hintonburg and hasn't ever seen a train run by on the rail. She seemed incredulous that the train hadn't actually even run the length of the new track... which is clearly a lie.

I know from sitting in a meeting nearby the Bayview station just two weeks ago that the train indeed runs down the trench, as it went by several times during the meeting (and was distracting, the number of times a double-train went by, in both directions).

Where does she get off just spreading rumours like that, that are clearly not based on fact?

acottawa · #**9685** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 4:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTownandDown

Chianello again said on the radio this morning that she lives in Hintonburg and hasn't ever seen a train run by on the rail. She seemed incredulous that the train hadn't actually even run the length of the new track... which is clearly a lie.

I know from sitting in a meeting nearby the Bayview station just two weeks ago that the train indeed runs down the trench, as it went by several times during the meeting (and was distracting, the number of times a double-train went by, in both directions).

Where does she get off just spreading rumours like that, that are clearly not based on fact?

If you saw one train two weeks ago it isn’t inconceivable that someone else would not have seen any.

The lack of trust in Manconi and RTG is certainly well-earned.

bartlebooth · #**9686** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 4:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTownandDown

Chianello again said on the radio this morning that she lives in Hintonburg and hasn't ever seen a train run by on the rail. She seemed incredulous that the train hadn't actually even run the length of the new track... which is clearly a lie.

I know from sitting in a meeting nearby the Bayview station just two weeks ago that the train indeed runs down the trench, as it went by several times during the meeting (and was distracting, the number of times a double-train went by, in both directions).

Where does she get off just spreading rumours like that, that are clearly not based on fact?

It might be her experience though. I have had a very similar experience and I use the transitway everyday along the western portion of the line. In fact, I have seen a train(s) in operation less than 10 times since testing began which I find a bit surprising. Not saying they aren't out there, I just haven't seen them whenever I am near the line. Should this experience be used as the basis of a news article? I don't think so. Further investigation? Maybe. But I agree it should not be reported as fact.

OTownandDown · #**9687** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 9:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by acottawa

If you saw one train two weeks ago it isn’t inconceivable that someone else would not have seen any.

The lack of trust in Manconi and RTG is certainly well-earned.

I've never gone out specifically to watch the train. Each time is by chance. The following times I have seen trains:

1. During my commute to work last Wednesday, I saw two double trains, one in BOTH directions while waiting for a light at Riverside/417. Keeping in mind, I waited at ONE light. What are the chances this was the only two trains on the track that day? I remember thinking that it was loud when it went over the track, and then looking in the mirror I saw another one.

2. During that meeting two weeks ago, the train went by literally a dozen times during my 3 hours meeting. Both directions, double trains. Come to think of it, it was the calm before the stormaggeadon. We were also waiting for the snow to start that afternoon.

3. Occasionally over the last 6 months I've seen trains, both single and double travelling down the nicholas corridor, the Riverside overpass at the 417, and out in Westboro (Bayview).

Also, why is she just relying on her personal experience, I thought she was all about facts and reports?

OCCheetos · #**9688** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 9:10 PM**

There were trains running at Bayview on Tuesday (in the snowfall too).

pattherat · #**9689** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 9:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by bartlebooth

It might be her experience though. I have had a very similar experience and I use the transitway everyday along the western portion of the line. In fact, I have seen a train(s) in operation less than 10 times since testing began which I find a bit surprising. Not saying they aren't out there, I just haven't seen them whenever I am near the line. Should this experience be used as the basis of a news article? I don't think so. Further investigation? Maybe. But I agree it should not be reported as fact.

Agree, she should try to confirm assumptions. I live at Lebreton and there have been tons of trains on the west rail since early last spring. Her take on this is more than misleading.

Personal experience alone is not enough to back up a public article that is meant to inform the public. If she wants to move her articles to OpEd then fine...

pattherat · #**9690** Posted **Mar 7, 2019, 10:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by pattherat

Agree, she should try to confirm assumptions. I live at Lebreton and there have been tons of trains on the west rail since early last spring. Her take on this is more than misleading.

Personal experience alone is not enough to back up a public article that is meant to inform the public. If she wants to move her articles to OpEd then fine...

...and lo and behold I have seen more than 10 trains go by in both directions since arriving home at 4:30, plus a coupled train between Pimisi and Bayview just now!

She might be calling attention to issues in some cases, but she often selectively leaves out the full context for effect. Irresponsible...

Gat-Train · #**9691** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 4:17 AM**

I was in the Makerspace at UOttawa tonight. I counted eight trains pass by in the space of 90 minutes— seven singles and one double— going both directions.

sseguin · #**9692** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 12:02 PM**

We are starting to follow the trains that are spotted.

A few fleet numbers were posted yesterday, feel free to share others.

https://www.otrainfans.ca/forum/topic/64-confederation-line-train-tests-spotting/

J.OT13 · #**9693** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 1:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by sseguin

We are starting to follow the trains that are spotted.

A few fleet numbers were posted yesterday, feel free to share others.

https://www.otrainfans.ca/forum/topic/64-confederation-line-train-tests-spotting/

That's awesome. I'm pretty confident in Q2 2019, more than I've been for any past deadline. May 24 delivery would be good; a full year after the initial date.

CanadaGoose · #**9694** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 3:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by OTownandDown

Chianello again said on the radio this morning that she lives in Hintonburg and hasn't ever seen a train run by on the rail. She seemed incredulous that the train hadn't actually even run the length of the new track... which is clearly a lie.

I know from sitting in a meeting nearby the Bayview station just two weeks ago that the train indeed runs down the trench, as it went by several times during the meeting (and was distracting, the number of times a double-train went by, in both directions).

Where does she get off just spreading rumours like that, that are clearly not based on fact?

I walk to Bayview every morning for work. I've seen trains go by, they are just not as frequent as, the east end.

Capital Shaun · #**9695** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 3:14 PM**

Just to pile on, I've seen plenty of moving trains (singles and coupled) over the past year between the tunnel and Blair. I have no idea where Joanne Chianello is coming from on this one.

CityTech · #**9696** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 4:11 PM**

It definitely seems like they got their shit together now.

IIRC, when they first starting planning the project in the late O'Brien era they said 2019 as the completion year and Watson changed it to 2018 around the time he took office. Bad move in retrospect.

J.OT13 · #**9697** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 4:49 PM**

Parliament Station.

https://twitter.com/otrainfans613/status/1103350327439491073

Bayview.

https://twitter.com/Pika3323/status/1103133633353863168

PHrenetic · #**9698** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 6:02 PM**

Good Day.

I still think that if they had gone back down to base terrain level (at the old freight line level)
then there would have been room for a mezzanine level between the two lines,
allowing better circulation, better platform use, more options, better organization, future-proofing, ...........
But that got cut in cost-cutting measures somewhere along the way ! <sigh>

NoJoy!

GoTrans · #**9699** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 7:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHrenetic

Good Day.

I still think that if they had gone back down to base terrain level (at the old freight line level)
then there would have been room for a mezzanine level between the two lines,
allowing better circulation, better platform use, more options, better organization, future-proofing, ...........
But that got cut in cost-cutting measures somewhere along the way ! <sigh>

NoJoy!

You are right on this. This is what happens when you don't take the long term view of things, but of course the city will never learn.

Truenorth00 · #**9700** Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityTech

It definitely seems like they got their shit together now.

IIRC, when they first starting planning the project in the late O'Brien era they said 2019 as the completion year and Watson changed it to 2018 around the time he took office. Bad move in retrospect.

I remember a brief period when they talked about finishing early for Canada 150. LOL.

On the other hand, maybe a good thing O'Brien aimed for 2018. If the 2019 target stood, RTG would deliver in 2020.