Millennium Line - Broadway Extension: Planning & Pre-Construction

[misher]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

For the love of everything holy, I hope that Translink finally renames Production Way-University to "Production Way-SFU".

Well there is Fraser College there too?

[officedweller]

But what would they name the gondola stop at the top of SFU?

[Dengler Avenue]

SFU Transportation Centre?

[Migrant_Coconut]

Just "SFU," probably - unless the bus loop is named something different?

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I much prefer location names to street names. Street names might help tourists, but I'd much rather have landmarks (which might help them too). And no hyphens.

The Granville Station will be about as far from Granville Island as the OV station is from Olympic Village...

I mean, Olympic village is expanding towards Cambie St- and the downtown streetcar would need its own station name.

Originally Posted by officedweller

But what would they name the gondola stop at the top of SFU?

Burnaby Mtn.-SFU?

[Migrant_Coconut]

SkyTrain station becomes "OV West," streetcar stops become "OV Central" and "OV East." Problem solved.

[Feathered Friend]

Here are the opposition notices from the 3084-3086 West 4th Ave & 2010–2032 Balaclava St Open House. As our blog is hosted using the free tier of Wordpress, we don't always have the space to include all the photos we want to.

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1103120713068630016

[retro_orange]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1103120713068630016

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by CanSpice

No way. Production Way-UniverCity.

How about Production Way-Gondola

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1103120713068630016

This doesn't even begin to describe:

How is council going to pay for at least in part of this $4 Billion in Costs?

Of course they expect the Federal government and province to pay and UBC has offered to pay something none of which has been specified.

Hmm how about the feds and province will each pay somewhere between 33 - 40% of the costs (which I seem to remember being based on how much it would cost for elevated Skytrain).

The reason no numbers are being "specified" is because it's way too early in the process - we can guesstimate how much it will cost but until then there's no specific dollar amounts attached to it.

[waves]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

How about Production Way-Gondola

Gondaversity?

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by waves

Gondaversity?

Stop.

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1103120713068630016

See, this is why Vancouver never should have amalgamated. Let Point Grey be its own little West Van.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by fredinno

See, this is why Vancouver never should have amalgamated. Let Point Grey be its own little West Van.

Then we'd have a SkyTrain to Alma and no 99. Like it or not, part of being a larger metro means constantly having to drag the boomer-filled outskirts out of whatever decade they're still living in and into the present.

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Then we'd have a SkyTrain to Alma and no 99. Like it or not, part of being a larger metro means constantly having to drag the boomer-filled outskirts out of whatever decade they're still living in and into the present.

Hey, HWY 99 goes through West Van .

But yeah, I get what you're saying, but the situation is a bit different- West Van is the terminus here, so if they don't want it, you can't force them to have it. Just passing through an area with minimal demand or reason to redevelop is a different story. A neighborhood with a bored subway but no stop, after all, may as well have no subway.

[Chikinlittle]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

https://twitter.com/City_Duo/status/1103120713068630016

Wait... the Mayor's council did NOT approve it? (says that opposition letter)

Mayors’ council approves SkyTrain to UBC

[SpongeG]

there is some video at the source

Vancouver launches consultations on Broadway subway plan

By Simon Little Online Journalist Global News

March 6, 2019

The City of Vancouver is launching public consultations as it develops a new area plan for the Broadway corridor in preparation of the new subway megaproject.

The proposed plan would cover an area running fro Clark Drive in the east to Vine Street in the west, and from 1st Avenue in the north to 16th Avenue in the south.

The Broadway subway SkyTrain extension will be a massive undertaking, and is expected to involve a tunneling operation similar in respects to the Evergreen Line extension, rather than the disruptive “cut and cover” tunnel used to build the Canada Line.

...

https://globalnews.ca/news/5026483/broadway-subway-plan/

[SpongeG]

Elizabeth Murphy: No one should consider the UBC subway a done deal
ELIZABETH MURPHY Updated: February 26, 2019

Although TransLink’s Mayors’ Council has approved preliminary planning for the extension of the Broadway subway to the University of B.C. (the BS-Line), this is far from a done deal. The unfolding corruption scandal at SNC-Lavalin and the company’s proprietary role in SkyTrain technology puts this Millennium Line extension in question. The underlying assumptions that have been used to justify the subway also do not add up, regarding projections of growth, ridership or technology performance of various options.

The recommendations for a SkyTrain subway to UBC are based on a report that updates the 2012 SNC-Lavalin/Steer Davies Gleave report. Since SNC-Lavalin is the main supplier of SkyTrain throughout the region, it is not surprising SkyTrain was their recommendation, and since the current update is based on the 2012 report, it would come to the same conclusion again.

...

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/e...ould-consider-the-ubc-subway-a-done-deal

[Migrant_Coconut]

Also by Elizabeth Murphy. Take anything she says with a heavy dose of salt.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

Elizabeth Murphy: No one should consider the UBC subway a done deal
ELIZABETH MURPHY Updated: February 26, 2019

Although TransLink’s Mayors’ Council has approved preliminary planning for the extension of the Broadway subway to the University of B.C. (the BS-Line), this is far from a done deal. The unfolding corruption scandal at SNC-Lavalin and the company’s proprietary role in SkyTrain technology puts this Millennium Line extension in question. The underlying assumptions that have been used to justify the subway also do not add up, regarding projections of growth, ridership or technology performance of various options.

The recommendations for a SkyTrain subway to UBC are based on a report that updates the 2012 SNC-Lavalin/Steer Davies Gleave report. Since SNC-Lavalin is the main supplier of SkyTrain throughout the region, it is not surprising SkyTrain was their recommendation, and since the current update is based on the 2012 report, it would come to the same conclusion again.

...

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/e...ould-consider-the-ubc-subway-a-done-deal

It's pretty hard to appear credible when quoting DMJ and Rail for the Valley about design patents and proprietary designs. Design patents are 20 years from filing. Anything designed for the Expo Line is long expired, anything for the M-Line is recently expired.

As per usual, the media quotes talking heads and screws up any relevant technical detail they talk about.

There was a recent interview with Michelle Babiuk, one of Translink's planners where she explicitly said that other suppliers could bid the supply of rolling stock and that the designs weren't "proprietary". Most of the Japanese rolling stock suppliers have had a hand in supplying LIM vehicles. Whether or not another supplier can be competitive is beside the point.