Atlanta Project Thread IV - Page 187

pica · #**3721** Posted **Feb 24, 2019, 1:41 AM**

I think the Indianapolis rendering has the trying-too-hard quality of a Trump hotel, and what's proposed for Atlanta is a better complement to the already-out-there architecture of MBS. But that's just me. Which is the point -- y'all are arguing over subjective taste and that's kind of pointless.

Martinman · #**3722** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 4:57 PM**

Here's a new rendering which they are calling Waldo's O4W

http://waldosatl.com/#office

https://twitter.com/cbenderatl/status/1099970493162184704

shivtim · #**3723** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 7:44 PM**

^Looks like it's 9 stories on one side. Nice departure from the ubiquitous 5 or 6 story apartments. I wonder if it will still be stick built?

montydawg · #**3724** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 8:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by shivtim

^Looks like it's 9 stories on one side. Nice departure from the ubiquitous 5 or 6 story apartments. I wonder if it will still be stick built?

That rendering shows cement beams in many of the windows. That roof design on the right would not be possible with a stick built building. Wait for the first value engineer, then we will know for sure.

smArTaLlone · #**3725** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 9:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by shivtim

^Looks like it's 9 stories on one side. Nice departure from the ubiquitous 5 or 6 story apartments. I wonder if it will still be stick built?

This is an office project.

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Concrete’s a great invention and all, but Waldo’s uses something even better—mass timber and diverse flora—to create an environment that supports wellness and promotes productivity.

Edit: Found this description on Colliers
https://www2.colliers.com/en/Properties/40-boulevard/USA-40-boulevard-atlanta-ga-30312/USA1054236

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Our site is as unique as our neighborhood, putting thoughtfully designed hotel rooms next door to open offices, eclectic restaurants, and watering holes.

Atlriser · #**3726** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 11:22 PM**

The project is supposed to contain a hotel, office, rentals and commercial all in one development. I’m sure it will be mainly concrete from the looks of the renders. It might have a portion that is ‘timber’ framed but so far only T3 has been announced in Atlanta as being such. They can wrap the concrete in whatever they want be it Drywall or timber but it appears concrete from the views presented. They have just used wood as the finish over the concrete.

Street Advocate · #**3727** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 1:38 AM**

I am really excited for this project to move forward. More buildings like this between downtown and the EST, please! Walkable to MARTA & was hthe streetcar, too.

Martinman · #**3728** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 11:13 AM**

I agree. This kind of infill is ideal along the major corridors of the city and I'm really happy to see more projects outside of the typical formula. O4W just keeps getting cool things.

smArTaLlone · #**3729** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 11:59 AM**

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...e-projects-seeking-support-from-the.html

Some notable ones...

112-room boutique hotel at 551 Ponce de Leon
1105 West Peachtree
250-unit apartment at 777 Memorial Drive ( the next phase of apartments at Atlanta Dairies)

Street Advocate · #**3730** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 2:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martinman

This kind of infill is ideal along the major corridors of the city

This is what I find exciting for Atlanta and will make the city more cohesive. Memorial, North Ave/DLG, Ralph McGill/Joseph E Boone, MLK, RDA/Georgia Ave, Joseph E Lowery, Boulevard, Capitol Ave, Moreland, and Edgewood Ave (Amon plenty others... Hosea l Williams, cascade, Jonesboro, Marietta Blvd)... they all play vital roles for the city and can handle much more infill.

smArTaLlone · #**3731** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 2:17 PM**

From Curbed in addition to the office space...

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Waldo’s is slated to feature an 80-key hotel, 10 townhomes, and about 10,000 square feet of restaurants and retail

Neighbor · #**3732** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 3:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

From Curbed in addition to the office space...

Honestly, I like the massing of this project but aesthetically I think it may turn out like the Buckhead project everyone is bitching about.

I am soooo tired of these building with thoughtless jumbled exteriors. Random colored prefab pieces on sidings/ceilings that look aged and disgusting before one stick is put up. I just envision some Dr. Evil tier boomer thinking "The millennials love color, it'll be so hip."

Martinman · #**3733** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Neighbor

Honestly, I like the massing of this project but aesthetically I think it may turn out like the Buckhead project everyone is bitching about.

I am soooo tired of these building with thoughtless jumbled exteriors. Random colored prefab pieces on sidings/ceilings that look aged and disgusting before one stick is put up. I just envision some Dr. Evil tier boomer thinking "The millennials love color, it'll be so hip."

I don't think there is any similarity between Waldo and the Gables building. It looks there may be a different facade treatment on the hotel building (which is perfectly fine) while the office building is mostly the same treatment and there are no random colors. The Gables building the other hand on the other hand, and has 4 different facade treatments on ONE vertical side of the building.

smArTaLlone · #**3734** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 10:59 PM**

Reverb Hotel, Smith & Porter flats and Castleberry Station

(click to enlarge)

https://twitter.com/DougTurnbull/status/1100170080057524229

Castleberry Station - 50 townhomes

https://www.brockbuilt.com/new-homes/atlanta-ga/castleberry-station/

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**3735** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 2:52 PM**

Am I the only one shocked that the city is allowing such piss-poor suburban style development right in the literal core of the city. zoning here should not allow for such a horrible use of land with all those deadend interior streets. It looks like there will be literally one way in and one way out for that whole townhouse development. In the core of the city townhouse developments should be done like rowhouses. <endrant>

Historic · #**3736** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 3:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

Am I the only one shocked that the city is allowing such piss-poor suburban style development right in the literal core of the city. zoning here should not allow for such a horrible use of land with all those deadend interior streets. It looks like there will be literally one way in and one way out for that whole townhouse development. In the core of the city townhouse developments should be done like rowhouses. <endrant>

I hear your complaint and feel it. Especially as I live and own in Castleberry Hill and have very strong opinions on the design of any newdevelopments here. These new condos have a decent design, one that complements the neighborhood, but the parking lot option feels short-sighted. But again, not many options for parking in the neighborhood, as a parking deck would feel out of place and the other option is street-parking. And let’s be real, anybody shelling out 400k+ for a townhome in Atlanta will expect parking.

Neighbor · #**3737** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 3:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martinman

I don't think there is any similarity between Waldo and the Gables building. It looks there may be a different facade treatment on the hotel building (which is perfectly fine) while the office building is mostly the same treatment and there are no random colors. The Gables building the other hand on the other hand, and has 4 different facade treatments on ONE vertical side of the building.

I hope that I'm wrong, maybe it is just a low quality rendering.

Martinman · #**3738** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

Am I the only one shocked that the city is allowing such piss-poor suburban style development right in the literal core of the city. zoning here should not allow for such a horrible use of land with all those deadend interior streets. It looks like there will be literally one way in and one way out for that whole townhouse development. In the core of the city townhouse developments should be done like rowhouses. <endrant>

I was only thinking that this should be higher density in that location. The site plan is very subdivision-like but what can you do with a site that is behind existing structures and wedged against the railroad tracks? There's nothing the developer can do about dead end streets on this site. Expanding the street grid is the responsibility of the city but there will still be cases where where you will have deadend streets.

Ant131531 · #**3739** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 5:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martinman

I was only thinking that this should be higher density in that location. The site plan is very subdivision-like but what can you do with a site that is behind existing structures and wedged against the railroad tracks? There's nothing the developer can do about dead end streets on this site. Expanding the street grid is the responsibility of the city but there will still be cases where where you will have deadend streets.

This. Looking at the location of the lot, there's not....many options to be honest. The fact that this land is even being developed with a railroad track right there is surprising to be honest. Even in the most urban cities, land like this may not even be developed.

smArTaLlone · #**3740** Posted **Feb 28, 2019, 7:03 PM**

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...d-near.html?iana=hpmvp_atl_news_headline

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A new plan has emerged to bring a boutique hotel near Ponce City Market

The $20 million project would remake what was once the Ponce De Leon Hotel, but has most recently operated as Ponce Student Suites.

Plans for the property at 551 Ponce de Leon Avenue include preserving 7,000 square feet of the original two-story building and adding a five-story addition. The boutique hotel would have 112 rooms, along with a restaurant and bar. The project has expanded from ideas first floated last year.

The project could break ground in late summer, with the goal of opening around fall 2020.