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  #901  
Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 8:26 PM
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Please kill Stage 2 Trillium! The $600 million estimate was already ridiculous considering the little benefit we were getting out of it. But now at almost 3 times over budget, WOW!
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 8:28 PM
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And useless at probably 30 minute frequency. Hence the need for a separate route at least connecting to Greenboro
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 8:28 PM
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Was suppose to close for 16 months. Now it's up to 27/28 months!!! For what!? Service won't even be improved!!! Just more capacity, capacity that still isn't nearly enough to support ridership within just a few years.

https://twitter.com/meganshawCTV/status/1099042180562407424
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 8:29 PM
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https://twitter.com/meganshawCTV/status/1099042180562407424

16 month closure has become a 27-28 month closure. Ughhhhhhh

Edit: Oops, posted above first^
I wonder what the "rehabilitation" is that they intend to do. The original 16 month closure was supposed to include repairs to the tunnel, but unless they added some other things then... wow.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 8:36 PM
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Welcome to Ottawa, people
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 8:46 PM
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"Clarification", it will be 22 months (assuming all goes to plan).
https://twitter.com/DenVan/status/1099042353074135041
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 8:47 PM
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"Clarification", it will be 22 months (assuming all goes to plan).
https://twitter.com/DenVan/status/1099042353074135041
Oh. So much better.

This guy is posting some good pictures.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 9:02 PM
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16 month closure has become a 27-28 month closure. Ughhhhhhh

Edit: Oops, posted above first^
I wonder what the "rehabilitation" is that they intend to do. The original 16 month closure was supposed to include repairs to the tunnel, but unless they added some other things then... wow.
Perhaps the bridge at Carleton University. Then there is the grade separation at Ellwood Junction. I imagine that will be complicated.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 9:08 PM
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Perhaps the bridge at Carleton University. Then there is the grade separation at Ellwood Junction. I imagine that will be complicated.
I thought the recommended plan for the bridge was to build it several meters upstream and separate from the bridge. That shouldn't interfere with rail operations.

Since it looks like they only extended it to 22 months instead of 28 months I'm guessing it's more that they're just giving themselves more time to get it done because they realized that 16 months just wasn't going to happen.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 9:42 PM
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I like what I see so far at airport station. It's nice to finally see how the station will connect with the airport. I also like that the waiting area inside the station looks like an airport waiting area.



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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 9:48 PM
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I thought the recommended plan for the bridge was to build it several meters upstream and separate from the bridge. That shouldn't interfere with rail operations.

Since it looks like they only extended it to 22 months instead of 28 months I'm guessing it's more that they're just giving themselves more time to get it done because they realized that 16 months just wasn't going to happen.
Isn't that the separate pedestrian bridge? I know that is part of the plan.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 9:48 PM
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I have shared the news release from the Stage2LRT technical briefing today on O-Train Fans here:
https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/city-hol...stage-2-lrt-and-the-preferred-proponents
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 11:14 PM
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LRT Stage 2 now $1.2B more than projected; SNC-Lavalin, American-French consortium recommended as builders

Taylor Blewett, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: February 22, 2019




Embattled construction group SNC-Lavalin has been selected as one of the recommended proponents to build Stage 2 of the city’s light-rail transit system — a project which has ballooned in projected cost by $1.2 billion — Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson announced Friday.

The announcement comes while SNC is at the centre of controversy around the PMO’s alleged political pressure on then-Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould in her handling of the criminal prosecution of the Quebec company.

Watson announced that after a three-year procurement process, the city has chosen TransitNEXT (made up of Montreal-based SNC-Lavalin) to work on the next $1.6-billion phase of the north-south Trillium Line, which will see it extended to Riverside South.

East West Connectors (made up of American construction company Kiewit and French builder and transit operator Vinci) has been selected to handle the next phase of the east-west Confederation Line, which will bring it out to Orléans on one end and Algonquin College in the other.

In contrast to the $3.4-billion Stage 2 LRT construction cost estimated in 2017, the city now says the project will cost $4.6 billion due to changes in scope and market pressures that have driven up the cost.

The first phase of the Confederation Line is slated for handover to the city March 31, but the mayor and transit head John Manconi have voiced doubts that the builder Rideau Transit Group can achieve that deadline.

Construction on LRT Stage 2 — which will bump the number of stations from 19 to 41 — is expected to begin in 2019.

The city said the completion of Stage 2 will bring 77 per cent of residents within five kilometres of light rail.

City staff said the province has confirmed it’s still on board for a $1-billion contribution to LRT Phase 2, and an announcement and formal agreement will be arranged in the near future.

Chris Swail, the city’s director for the Stage 2 project, said the city needs council approval and executive agreements in place with the provincial and federal governments by the end of March, to ensure they can lock in with the selected proponents at the prices they’ve put on the table.

“We have to move quickly, unfortunately,” Swail said.

Stage 2 of the Confederation Line is expected to be delayed — initially, the city cited a completion date of 2023, but said Friday it would be 2025.

Coun. Diane Deans suggested the city needs to check with Ottawa residents to determine if they’re still on board with LRT Stage 2, given the project changes announced Friday.

Deans also questioned why the city would “reward” SNC-Lavalin with a contract for Stage 2 given their involvement in the delay-plagued first phase of the Confederation Line.

Swail answered that “running a procurement process is not about rewarding anyone … whoever has the strongest bid in the process evaluation is the winner.”

Deans also alluded to the company’s ongoing legal issues, asking: “Given their more precarious position now, and the potential for loss of income in the future … could that create a jeopardy for us and delay the project if they get in more trouble?”

The city will also be applying some hard-earned Stage 1 lessons to Stage 2, including stronger penalties if “projection completion notifications” are missed; a better idea of cost management; and “expanded mobility matters” to include pedestrians and cyclists.

The report on Stage 2 will come before committee on Wednesday. Council will vote on it March 6.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...d-as-recommended-builder-for-lrt-stage-2
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2019, 11:37 PM
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best quality images I could get (all from here).

Bayview


Gladstone


Walkley


South Keys


Leitrim


Bowesville


Limebank


Uplands


Airport
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2019, 12:18 AM
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One thing that seems to be missing from those renders is the power pack car on those trains. In fact, some of those trains look like they only have 3 cars... (Bayview, Limebank)
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One thing that seems to be missing from those renders is the power pack car on those trains. In fact, some of those trains look like they only have 3 cars... (Bayview, Limebank)
Since the cab is quite long, maybe the engine is at the front on this model?
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2019, 1:21 AM
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South Keys

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but where's the 3rd track for the Airport spur?
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2019, 1:23 AM
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Since the cab is quite long, maybe the engine is at the front on this model?
Unlikely. The FLIRT's trademark is its power pack car especially because of the electrification potential (which is still referenced in the report). It was probably just an error.

Here's another diagram of the FLIRT featuring the classic paint job from the Talents (I prefer the one in the renders).

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Old Posted Feb 23, 2019, 1:38 AM
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How can the Line 2 extension can be ever approved at the price?! I can't fathom it, I see most stations are double tracked, is it possible that is what is proposed?
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2019, 2:21 AM
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How can the Line 2 extension can be ever approved at the price?! I can't fathom it, I see most stations are double tracked, is it possible that is what is proposed?
I'm not sure. But that Uplands Station only has an actual station platform on one side of the track (even though there are two in the rendering)
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