YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 702

thenoflyzone · #**14021** Posted **Feb 1, 2019, 10:16 PM**

Weak December numbers...

2018

Total: 25,936,907 +7,3%

Domestic: 12,446,722 +6,1%

International: 13,490,185 +8,5%

Transborder: 6,332,091 +5,6%

Asia Pacific: 4,465,253 +9,6%

Europe: 1,754,538 +9,4%

December

Total: 2,064,001 +2,8%

Domestic: 999,351 +2,8%

International: 1,064,650 +2,9%

Transborder: 494,549 +1,9%

Asia Pacific: 382,177 +4,9%

Europe: 80,459 +1,6%

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/...ecember/yvr-december-passenger.pdf?la=en

Johnny Aussie · #**14022** Posted **Feb 1, 2019, 11:07 PM**

What was that sound?

The braking sound of pax stats!

Despite a rather weak December the total year result was excellent.

Based on what’s coming up no doubt 2019 will be a much slower growth year.

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/...cember/december-traffic-update.pdf?la=en

The fantastic result is the increase in international.

Total international was up over 1,060,000 for the year to just under 13.5 million. 52% of YVR pax are international.

Increased the gap with YUL to over 1.2 million.

For comparison SEA Intl was up 5.8% to 5.43 million which was an increase of under 300,000.

The gap with SEA just increased to over 8 million pax.

For SEA intl to catch up they would have to add 40 daily 280 seaters. Don’t really see that happening in the next few years

Decent cargo result to... just shy of 340,000 tonnes

mezzanine · #**14023** Posted **Feb 2, 2019, 3:08 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG

So I am going to go to Tokyo in April and wonder any suggestions for an airline? some interesting options. Cheapest is with Air China but you have a short layover in Beijing. Cathay Pacific with a stop first in Hong Kong with a 20-hour layover, Korean Air with a stop in Seoul for a few hours or direct with either Air Canada or Japan Airlines, there are other options too, even Delta. I'm leaning to Air Canada.

I would add to the TPE camp. CI/BR/TPE really work to make connections easy, pricing is competitive and you can easily open jaw out of japan if you wanted to.

thenoflyzone · #**14024** Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 2:46 AM**

https://www.anna.aero/2019/01/30/global-...anada-overtakes-us-to-become-top-market/

highlights

Global turboprop capacity up 22% since 2009.

AC is leading carrier for turboprop seats/year, with 12.69 million seats available across its network in 2018.

YVR is ‘Top of the Props’ with the most departing seats on props per year in the world. YYZ is second, YYC is 4th.

Canada is the largest market for scheduled turboprop services, with more than twice as many seats as the next largest market, Indonesia

YTZ-YUL busiest turboprop route in the world, with over 700,000 one way seats available in 2018

libtard · #**14025** Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 4:52 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

What was that sound?

The braking sound of pax stats!

Despite a rather weak December the total year result was excellent.

Based on what’s coming up no doubt 2019 will be a much slower growth year.

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/...cember/december-traffic-update.pdf?la=en

The fantastic result is the increase in international.

Total international was up over 1,060,000 for the year to just under 13.5 million. 52% of YVR pax are international.

Increased the gap with YUL to over 1.2 million.

For comparison SEA Intl was up 5.8% to 5.43 million which was an increase of under 300,000.

The gap with SEA just increased to over 8 million pax.

For SEA intl to catch up they would have to add 40 daily 280 seaters. Don’t really see that happening in the next few years

Decent cargo result to... just shy of 340,000 tonnes

Total overall pax is what matters and SEA had 50 million.

nname · #**14026** Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 5:43 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by libtard

Total overall pax is what matters and SEA had 50 million.

That' probably not going to happen until Canada suddenly gain 200M population, or the US or China annexed BC... or maybe SYD-YVR-LHR somehow becomes a domestic route...

The population in Canada is just too small compared to US.

Anyways, about time for this week's AC schedule update...

Johnny Aussie · #**14027** Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 5:48 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by libtard

Total overall pax is what matters and SEA had 50 million.

Matters in what way? Depends on what metric you're looking at.

That is impressive for SEA no doubt. Almost cracked 50 million last year. That's an insane number.

I think it's amazing YVR has the 8th largest international pax figures among US and Canadian airports.

One of Seattle’s new routes SEA-KIX has just been made seasonal as well (“replaced” their year-round SEA-HKG flight)
They have CX, JL and SQ starting this year... that’s a start!

SpongeG · #**14028** Posted **Feb 5, 2019, 11:02 PM**

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SpongeG · #**14029** Posted **Feb 6, 2019, 12:26 AM**

WOW air cancels Vancouver route before it even launches

DH Vancouver StaffFeb 05, 2019

WOW air has officially cancelled its upcoming Vancouver route.

According to a statement from the airline, WOW air “had to stop the Vancouver route due to restructuring of the airline and aircraft availability.”

The airline also announced it has begun a conversation with Indigo Partners, a private equity firm established to pursue acquisitions and strategic investments in the air transportation and related industries.

...

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/wow-air-cancel-vancouver-route-2019

thenoflyzone · #**14030** Posted **Feb 6, 2019, 1:52 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG

WOW air cancels Vancouver route before it even launches

DH Vancouver StaffFeb 05, 2019

WOW air has officially cancelled its upcoming Vancouver route.

According to a statement from the airline, WOW air “had to stop the Vancouver route due to restructuring of the airline and aircraft availability.”

The airline also announced it has begun a conversation with Indigo Partners, a private equity firm established to pursue acquisitions and strategic investments in the air transportation and related industries.

...

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/wow-air-cancel-vancouver-route-2019

old news....posted this a while ago...

thenoflyzone · #**14031** Posted **Feb 6, 2019, 2:15 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

One of Seattle’s new routes SEA-KIX has just been made seasonal as well (“replaced” their year-round SEA-HKG flight)

Hardly surprising.

As I said last June, SEA-KIX is a poor substitute for SEA-HKG. I doubt the route will last.

trofirhen · #**14032** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 2:55 AM**

It seems that YVR has no new major transborder or foreign destinations coming down the pipe this year. Kind of a shame, but hopefully it will get a couple more in 2020 or so.

CareerShow · #**14033** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 5:20 AM**

Apparently the reason for the PEK downgrade is due to a tail strike incident at HKG, which significantly damaged one of AC’s 77W. The aircraft is yet to re-enter service, and a write-off could be in order according to rumours.

Johnny Aussie · #**14034** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 11:04 PM**

Canada Jetlines now states YVR will be its base of operations.

Has this not gone full circle?

Let's see what next week brings....

https://jetlines.ca/2019/02/canada-jetli...s-selected-the-airport-as-its-home-base/

VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Canada Jetlines Ltd. (JET: TSX-V) (JETMF: OTCQB) (the “Company” or “Jetlines”) is pleased to announce that it has chosen Vancouver International Airport (YVR) to be its home airport and primary base of operations when it begins flight operations targeted for later this year.

stiffdeadman · #**14035** Posted **Feb 9, 2019, 5:41 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Canada Jetlines now states YVR will be its base of operations.

Has this not gone full circle?

Let's see what next week brings....

https://jetlines.ca/2019/02/canada-jetli...s-selected-the-airport-as-its-home-base/

VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Canada Jetlines Ltd. (JET: TSX-V) (JETMF: OTCQB) (the “Company” or “Jetlines”) is pleased to announce that it has chosen Vancouver International Airport (YVR) to be its home airport and primary base of operations when it begins flight operations targeted for later this year.

i laugh at the part where it says a 30 minute drive for 2.5 million people. obviously the writer has never driven in vancouver. i live in south surrey and with the constant congestion in the tunnel it's more like an hour and 30 minutes to get there. i can almost get to seatac in that time. driving from coquitlam a similar experience as there is no real direct express route. usually takes over an hour.

thenoflyzone · #**14036** Posted **Feb 11, 2019, 12:09 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by CareerShow

Apparently the reason for the PEK downgrade is due to a tail strike incident at HKG, which significantly damaged one of AC’s 77W. The aircraft is yet to re-enter service, and a write-off could be in order according to rumours.

Not really, considering C-FITW is now back in service.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-fitw

nname · #**14037** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 9:36 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by CareerShow

Apparently the reason for the PEK downgrade is due to a tail strike incident at HKG, which significantly damaged one of AC’s 77W. The aircraft is yet to re-enter service, and a write-off could be in order according to rumours.

YYZ-AMS/SFO gets the 77W from YVR-PEK/YYZ
YYZ/YYC-FRA gets the 789 from YYZ-AMS/SFO/LAX
YVR-PEK and YYZ-YVR/LAX gets the 77L from YYZ/YYC-FRA

Johnny Aussie · #**14038** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 10:40 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname

YYZ-AMS/SFO gets the 77W from YVR-PEK/YYZ
YYZ/YYC-FRA gets the 789 from YYZ-AMS/SFO/LAX
YVR-PEK and YYZ-YVR/LAX gets the 77L from YYZ/YYC-FRA

So does this mean all 789 77L and 77W frames are now accounted for?

Also AC increasing YVR-YOW to 4 daily this summer.

And a huge shift to Q400 flying this summer.

YXC, YYF, YKA, YPR, YYD, YZP will see DH4s for the first time. Shifting some DH3s to YYC to operate YQL and YXH.

nname · #**14039** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 11:23 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

So does this mean all 789 77L and 77W frames are now accounted for?

Also AC increasing YVR-YOW to 4 daily this summer.

And a huge shift to Q400 flying this summer.

YXC, YYF, YKA, YPR, YYD, YZP will see DH4s for the first time. Shifting some DH3s to YYC to operate YQL and YXH.

I think so... with big change like this, maybe there are further changes tomorrow.

YKA YYF YXC YYD YCD all got frequency reduced anywhere from 5x weekly to 1x daily. Not sure what's the change in overall seat count.

YXC and YKA got reduced or cut from both YVR and YYC with the upgauge.

Also, unrelated, but Rouge now invades AC15xx... now I need to go change all my formulas

Johnny Aussie · #**14040** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 11:32 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname

I think so... with big change like this, maybe there are further changes tomorrow.

YKA YYF YXC YYD YCD all got frequency reduced anywhere from 5x weekly to 1x daily. Not sure what's the change in overall seat count.

YXC and YKA got reduced or cut from both YVR and YYC with the upgauge.

Also, unrelated, but Rouge now invades AC15xx... now I need to go change all my formulas

Yes frequency reductions with the upgauge to DH4s

YKA, YXC, YYF, YYD and YCD generally down 1 per day but overall seat count would be a wash or an increase in some cases.

YXT and YYJ both seeing increases in frequency and now all Q400s on every flight.

YXC is cut from YYC.