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lrt's friend · #**9221** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 5:38 PM**

Fun little tidbit. Post Confederation Line. Bus trips are 15 minutes between Rideau Centre to Hurdman Station when the train is down. Pre- Confederation construction, that trip was 5 minutes at most. The reason is that you have meander your way out of downtown to hit every stop. Forget about even a semi-direct route.

J.OT13 · #**9222** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 5:46 PM**

I tried Tunney's to Blair current vs. future. Status quo takes 26 mins vs. 25 mins with Line 1. Considering Line 1 will have more stops, that's pretty good.

Anyone remember how much time it took when the Transitway was open?

J.OT13 · #**9223** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 5:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by OCCheetos

Some observations from playing around with the planner:

If you're headed eastbound from Bayview it will tell you to board a westbound train and then stay on that train since it will be doing a return trip immediately afterwards.
This might suggest that only one of the platforms at Tunney's will be used initially (and tbh that makes perfect sense).

That makes. Train arrives at Tunney's, sticks around for 2 mins then leaves. Next arrives 2 mins later. Having only one platform in use would make it much easier for passengers as they wouldn't have to guess where the next train will leave from. That also explains why the public washrooms are on the north platform. On the other hand, now we have one platform that will be disused for 5+ years. How will it work for Blair? Will they just use one track?

bartlebooth · #**9224** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

I'd save one minute in the morning and evening would stay the same. Remember though, that's on paper. Buses are subject to heavy delays downtown due to weather, protests and others. That's not taken into consideration by the Travel Planner. Trains will be nearly 100% consistent.

I think I am most looking forward to a simpler commute. I often miss my morning or afternoon bus because of the long line that approaches the station at the same time. If I don't see the bus or can't run past three articulated buses to get to the end of the platform once I realize my bus has arrived (which happened to me this morning), my commute time goes up significantly.

Even if the train only saves me 3-4 minutes overall from station to station, I will benefit over the long term given how much more simple my commute will become.

lrt's friend · #**9225** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 5:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

I tried Tunney's to Blair current vs. future. Status quo takes 26 mins vs. 25 mins with Line 1. Considering Line 1 will have more stops, that's pretty good.

Anyone remember how much time it took when the Transitway was open?

Sorry, but that is shocking. This is where the improvement should have been most noticeable.

lrt's friend · #**9226** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:02 PM**

I tested my current commute at the normal end of my day. Travel time 56 minutes, most of which is waiting for buses, versus 8 to 10 minutes by car. I don't think I will be changing.

CityTech · #**9227** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:22 PM**

Playing around with comparisons and I'm actually looking at the current posted schedules for the first time and WOW are they ever wildly optimistic. It says the 91 takes 23 minutes from St-Laurent to Westboro, I take that trip every day and that's BS, I've never been on a trip that short.. usually its around 30 minutes.

The LRT/bus trip from St-Laurent to Westboro is listed as 22 minutes (19 min train + 3 min bus) plus 3 mins for the transfer so on paper my trip is 2 min longer than today but in reality its about 5 minutes faster. Plus way higher frequency - 4 mins train and 3-6mins bus compared to 10-15 minutes for today's bus, so way less concern if I end up missing my trip. In fact, with this I really won't have to plan my trip at all anymore, I can just leave whenever and wait time will always be short.

CityTech · #**9228** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:25 PM**

It appears Saturday schedules aren't posted. When you click Saturday it displays a weekday schedule. (5am-1am instead of 6am-2am).

The separate Friday schedule (consisting of later service and higher evening frequencies) is also not displayed.

Ottawaresident · #**9229** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:26 PM**

Yeah. Buses are very vulnerable to delay, shown greatly by the Westboro crash. Trains really should be more consistent.

lrt's friend · #**9230** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:37 PM**

It is funny how the trip planner doesn't consider the start waiting time. I put in the current time and the start time was 25 minutes later. Effectively my real travel time was over one hour from the Rideau Centre to home. The only benefit I get from rail is they are adjusting my local bus schedule by 4 minutes, which can be two edge sword. It also only gives you 1 minute to get to the Rideau station platform. Is it going to be that fast to get down there?

H>T&T>P · #**9231** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

I tried Tunney's to Blair current vs. future. Status quo takes 26 mins vs. 25 mins with Line 1. Considering Line 1 will have more stops, that's pretty good.

Anyone remember how much time it took when the Transitway was open?

Tunney's to Mackenzie King and vice versa regularly takes 20 mins right now!
I don't think another 6 minutes would get me to Hurdman let alone Blair.

CityTech · #**9232** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:50 PM**

The 95 was scheduled to take 28 minutes from Blair to Tunney's in 2014. I remember checking it then.

CityTech · #**9233** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by H>T&T>P

Tunney's to Mackenzie King and vice versa regularly takes 20 mins right now!
I don't think another 6 minutes would get me to Hurdman let alone Blair.

Yeah. No way is 26min accurate. Again it takes me 30 from St-Laurent to Westboro...

kmcamp · #**9234** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

I tried Tunney's to Blair current vs. future. Status quo takes 26 mins vs. 25 mins with Line 1. Considering Line 1 will have more stops, that's pretty good.

Anyone remember how much time it took when the Transitway was open?

You must not have done that in rush hour, right now it can take me 20 minutes just from World Exchange to Hurdman in the evening trip home. That's why i'm so impatient for the train, it's during rush hour that the detour is especially hellish. Usually escaping downtown itself takes at least 50% of my travel time.

lrt's friend · #**9235** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by kmcamp

You must not have done that in rush hour, right now it can take me 20 minutes just from World Exchange to Hurdman in the evening trip home. That's why i'm so impatient for the train, it's during rush hour that the detour is especially hellish. Usually escaping downtown itself takes at least 50% of my travel time.

I totally agree with your comment. I once took 30 minutes (reverse peak) to get from Hurdman to the Rideau Centre. It is especially bad when you get stuck on Route 98 that runs through the University. This should be better with rail, and more reliable compared to pre-construction. I used to be able to depend on a 20 minute trip between the Rideau Centre and Greenboro pre-construction. This will not improve with rail because of the transfer.

TransitZilla · #**9236** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityTech

The 95 was scheduled to take 28 minutes from Blair to Tunney's in 2014. I remember checking it then.

And how often did it actually do it in that time? Almost definitely never, at least at rush hour.

J.OT13 · #**9237** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 7:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by kmcamp

You must not have done that in rush hour, right now it can take me 20 minutes just from World Exchange to Hurdman in the evening trip home. That's why i'm so impatient for the train, it's during rush hour that the detour is especially hellish. Usually escaping downtown itself takes at least 50% of my travel time.

I chose a random hour assuming the travel time would be the same on paper. Turns out it is for the train (as expected), but not for the bus. Tried it again just now. At rush hour, the estimated travel time for the bus is 32 minutes Tunney's to Blair.

TransitZilla · #**9238** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 7:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by lrt's friend

Route 6 service cut on weekends to every half hour in many hours south of Billings. Confederation Line not running to 2 am as promised on Saturday nights.

Are you sure about that? I checked Saturday and the frequency seems to be the same as today- every 20 minutes in the morning and every 15 minutes int the afternoon.

TransitZilla · #**9239** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 7:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

I chose a random hour assuming the travel time would be the same on paper. Turns out it is for the train (as expected), but not for the bus. Tried it again just now. At rush hour, the estimated travel time for the bus is 32 minutes Tunney's to Blair.

And that's for a 91, meaning no service to uOttawa, Lees, Hurdman, Tremblay or St Laurent.

J.OT13 · #**9240** Posted **Feb 7, 2019, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

And that's for a 91, meaning no service to uOttawa, Lees, Hurdman, Tremblay or St Laurent.

Precisely.