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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 2:02 AM
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WTF? All of these fees added up will be the same monthly outlay as renting.

I'd love to hear what's behind that parking scheme too, very odd, other than extra cash for Westbank.
Is it Westbank that reaps the benefit of the parking scheme long term? I'd imagine that QuadReal being a pension fund developer, such a money making scheme would be in their ball park, or are they not involved what so ever with residential portion?

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I ran into a realtor friend there and his client bought a unit at Oakridge. His client is a PR and stays in Canada and Asia. However, they will be retiring in Canada and plan to live at Oakridge.
Just in time to reap the benefits of Canada and the social state without greatly paying into it

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Ok we definitely need more input from you on a daily basis on this forum. I'd un-ignore Vin with more statements like this, though likely not misher.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 2:36 AM
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Ok we definitely need more input from you on a daily basis on this forum. I'd un-ignore Vin with more statements like this, though likely not misher.
im new here.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 2:51 AM
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by the way,anyone has any inside info about The Horseshoe Bay by westbank? im not living close to that area, just saw the contruction site last week when i took the ferry to the island, looks like the project is on the standby position, you know what i mean? so wired.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 6:57 AM
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I think most (or may be all) of these foreign buyers do not knows the 2% speculation tax coming out now. 2% of $2 millions is $40,000 per year on top of the normal property tax. Vancouver also has its own 1% empty home tax. I know, I know, it is nothing to those super rich people....
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 7:43 AM
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im new here.

All the better and welcome!
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 7:47 AM
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by the way,anyone has any inside info about The Horseshoe Bay by westbank? im not living close to that area, just saw the contruction site last week when i took the ferry to the island, looks like the project is on the standby position, you know what i mean? so wired.

No clue but there's tons of info here:
https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/ca/horseshoe-bay


The rest of the forum has lots of info on other projects, though i don't think that project has been brought up before:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=161
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 7:49 AM
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I think most (or may be all) of these foreign buyers do not knows the 2% speculation tax coming out now. 2% of $2 millions is $40,000 per year on top of the normal property tax. Vancouver also has its own 1% empty home tax. I know, I know, it is nothing to those super rich people....
While I get the idea of pushing condo owners to rent out their places I can’t imsgine putting mansions on the market is anything but a tax grab no matter how much frilly dressing we put on it. Just like the expanded school tax definitely isn’t going to schools. Even Weaver got a little pissed because the NDP is naming its taxes to appeal rather than to be accurate. Speculation tax is an empty homes tax with a different name.

With the school tax many people with homes are going to be hit hard. All the % based taxes are based on values at the height of the market. Now people can’t sell at that price and no one would buy if they did try to sell with the current market. % based tax revenue is going to be huge this year but most likely will drop like a rock after next years assessment.

The worst part is that due to our charter and trade agreements were legally not allowed to discriminate so a future government is going to go bankrupt giving all this money back plus interest. Both parties love to pass popular illegal laws knowing that it’ll be years before it’s sorted out in court.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 5:17 PM
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The worst part is that due to our charter and trade agreements were legally not allowed to discriminate so a future government is going to go bankrupt giving all this money back plus interest. Both parties love to pass popular illegal laws knowing that it’ll be years before it’s sorted out in court.
wut?
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wut?
He's a constitutional scholar now.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 6:20 PM
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He's a constitutional scholar now.
Part-time I think, still earning that $15/hr at his local realtor property manager job
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 6:54 PM
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No, but im in the industry, once i joined Vancouver house's first event, i met a Shanghai representative, she told me under the table that if i have local buyer i'd better contact her as not many units prepare for local realtors. i know at least 3 guys have vancouver house presale, they all purchased oversea, 2 in HK and 1 in Beijing.
Then, The Alberni. I checked with vancouver westbank representative about 2bdr units, he told me that only 3 left, and again, i said my buyer is very serious and we need to look at more, the other day, the guy gave me 2 more. ok, the 5 units he gave me are all garbage, then i turned to ask a shanghai sales, he shown me much much more available units with best floor best exposure,best layout.
The butterfly, I heardfrom my colleague that most units for mianland china have been sold but HK returned a lot of units due to weak capital market in HK. For local, I have heard only 1 local guy bought a unit. We tried to bring almost of our clients to the presentation centre see if any of them will be interested, unfortunatily, they all believe it priced tooooooo high, with a not perfect location, soso view, soso layout, even Trump tower were selling around 2000/sqft, with better location, better view.

Oakridge, why i say it will continue targeting oversea buyers, because the price, again.
2200/sqft for the worst units, 2600/sqft average for other units, means buyers have to be very stupid. we can check all the listing on the market, even all the sold record in the history, how can you find a condo selling for that price range in that area? even in coal harbor area, water front, no one. on the cambie, brand new condo like Northwest at Marine and cambie, sold price around 1200/sqft,other building nearby around 2-4 years old selling below 1200/sqft. cambie garden selling for 1600/sqft average, COCO selling around 1500/sqft which is selling very slow. My opinion, if oakridge priced 1500-1800/saft on avaerage,it will attacted local buyers, dont forget it has 2600 units, not just 250 or 500. I go oakridge with my family every week, i m so sure that the presentation centre is so quite, 2-3 funny guys stand outside send flyers to people passing by, but mostly people are not interested.
we are all talking about affordability, why? because most locals feel housing price so high and our income can not afford the mortgage, or property tax, or rent, even most locals dont have enough down payment, how come now can afford the 2200/sqft+ condo???so when westbank said in the news that when they sell Butterfly, they give the priority to local buyer......we all laughed. hahahaha.

okokokok, i said too much.
So I guess you are saying they are targetting "stupid" overseas buyers who don't mind being ripped off?

Well, it would be a repeat of the Vancouver west side or West Van properties where investors get burnt big time.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2019, 7:34 PM
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 6:38 AM
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No clue but there's tons of info here:
https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/ca/horseshoe-bay


The rest of the forum has lots of info on other projects, though i don't think that project has been brought up before:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=161
I still not find the Tread for The Horseshoe Bay.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 6:39 AM
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So I guess you are saying they are targetting "stupid" overseas buyers who don't mind being ripped off?

Well, it would be a repeat of the Vancouver west side or West Van properties where investors get burnt big time.
who you think they are targeting?
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 10:06 AM
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I still not find the Tread for The Horseshoe Bay.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 12:23 PM
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According to the prize sheet (which was not given out, the second sales lady showed me the sheet and let me photo it), there is a penthouse.

The list is too long to type, but basically each unit type was allocated a few prizes. You spin a wheel to determine your prize. Once a prize is allocated, then its off the table.

I'll share the 3br/Penthouse prizes:
- Crystal diamond his and her Hublot watch
- Rolls Royce Cullinan
- Rolls Royce Wraith
- DeBeer's diamond jewelry set, necklace and earrings

Other prizes included several $28,000 gift cards, cars and travel prizes.
Interesting.

When I was at the westbank sales gallery in HK, all were sold out to locals (Vancouver) with the exception of one which was sold in Beijing.

However, there is one combo SPH unit available on the 41st floor; maybe that's what they're referring to as a 'PH' unit.

Do you recall how many of those prizes were given out that evening and is there any chance if you could post the photo of the prize list?
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 10:01 PM
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who you think they are targeting?
See below...

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Interesting.

When I was at the westbank sales gallery in HK, all were sold out to locals (Vancouver) with the exception of one which was sold in Beijing.

However, there is one combo SPH unit available on the 41st floor; maybe that's what they're referring to as a 'PH' unit.

Do you recall how many of those prizes were given out that evening and is there any chance if you could post the photo of the prize list?
bb1510 are you saying most units were actually sold to locals?
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 11:16 PM
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I think they meant Locals as in HK locals. At least that's how I read it.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 12:46 AM
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Interesting.

When I was at the westbank sales gallery in HK, all were sold out to locals (Vancouver) with the exception of one which was sold in Beijing.

However, there is one combo SPH unit available on the 41st floor; maybe that's what they're referring to as a 'PH' unit.

Do you recall how many of those prizes were given out that evening and is there any chance if you could post the photo of the prize list?
They did make announcements from the wheel spinning, but it was sporadic throughout the evening. I don't know how many sold that night. It was shoulder-to-shoulder in that area and I was more interested in the food and drink lol. The sheet says Penthouse, not sub-penthouse. But it was not plural, so I assume only one.

Sorry, I don't have this whole photo upload thing figured out. They don't make it easy to upload a file from my desktop. Here's a summary instead

The 1 BR wheel consisted of:
- several $28,000 gift cards, travel experiences, and BMW lease

The 2 BR wheel consisted of:
- several $58,000 gift cards, travel experiences, a Benz, and jewellery

The 2 BR suites (I assume these are bigger 2br units) wheel:
- $100,000 gift cards, travel with shopping spree, Porsche, and $180,000 West Bank gift card

- 3br and PH as listed previously
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