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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 6:30 AM
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 6:31 AM
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 6:34 AM
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Mansion updates are good, but true some suburban updates would be nice.
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Mansion updates are okay. Nothing fantastic but better than ones from the Beltline (I couldn’t care less about Beltline ghetto tower updates)

What I’d like to see more of is this. It’d be nice to see updates from various areas around the city, and up by the airport is one of the busiest places going. People underestimate the value these area have.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 6:47 AM
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It's being called an Events Centre because it will hold events.
Is the Obama event at the current not an "event"?

Markusoff's thread here is excellent:
https://twitter.com/markusoff/status/1088864535295881216
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 6:59 AM
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Is the Obama event at the Saddledome not an "event"?

Markusoff's thread here is excellent:
https://twitter.com/markusoff/status/1088864535295881216
Only suburbanites get so worked up about semantics. Isn't the place you went shopping today a Shopping Centre?
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 4:50 PM
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Here is CBC's article from this morning on the four projects to be discussed at City Council today:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-infrastructure-city-council-list-1.4994997

Again, they are:
- Arts Commons expansion / upgrades around Olympic Plaza
- BMO Centre expansion
- An arena to replace the iconic Olympic Saddledome
- A new field house at Foothills athletic park

If I were to rank the importance (or urgency) of these, I'd say: BMO, Field House, Arts Commons (close to #2) and then Arena.

My general reasonings are that the BMO expansion and Field House would add to what is done / can be done in Calgary, whereas the Arts Commons project and Arena project do not actually change much. The BMO project is the only one of the four that would material add to the economy by bringing in dollars from outside the city, whereas the other three will basically be vying for Calgarians' dollars, and not bringing anyone from outside. That being said, the Arts Commons project upgrades the centre of the city, and I think would be highly visible and activate the growing architectural value of our spaces. I would have ranked Arts Commons above the Field House, but know that the city has previously placed the Field House at the top of the un-funded projects list.

From what I understand, the outcome of today will not be to zap any of the projects, but to balance cashflow with project timing. The assessments done for the now defunct Olympics bid were in this context extremely helpful. They identified that the Olympic Saddledome has still a very long life and would have been more than adequate as the premier home of an Olympic Winter Games in the second half of the next decade, so in my mind, that project is a decade out, but will be nice to pin that on a wall somewhere.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 4:52 PM
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Here is CBC's article from this morning on the four projects to be discussed at City Council today:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-infrastructure-city-council-list-1.4994997

Again, they are:
- Arts Commons expansion / upgrades around Olympic Plaza
- BMO Centre expansion
- An arena to replace the iconic Olympic Saddledome
- A new field house at Foothills athletic park

If I were to rank the importance of these, I'd say: BMO, Field House, Arts Commons and then Arena.

My general reasonings are that the BMO expansion and Field House would add to what is done / can be done in Calgary, whereas the Arts Commons project and Arena project do not actually change much. The BMO project is the only one of the four that would material add to the economy by bringing in dollars from outside the city, whereas the other three will basically be vying for Calgarians' dollars, and not bringing anyone from outside. That being said, the Arts Commons project upgrades the centre of the city, and I think would be highly visible and activate the growing architectural value of our spaces. I would have ranked Arts Commons above the Field House, but know that the city has previously placed the Field House at the top of the un-funded projects list.
Events Centre, not Arena.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 5:06 PM
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Events Centre, not Arena.
The BMO Centre is more an Events Centre than is the arena project to replace the existing arena. But don't get so caught up in semantics.

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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 5:18 PM
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The BMO Centre is more an Events Centre than the arena to replace the existing arena. But don't get so caught up in semantics.
Sounds more like it should be called the BMO Arena then???
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 5:27 PM
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 7:29 PM
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Only suburbanites get so worked up about semantics. Isn't the place you went shopping today a Shopping Centre?

you are the irony king. lol
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2019, 8:09 PM
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you are the irony king. lol
Please elaborate Mr.NoShiftKey.
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Today I learned the Louvre is in the Beltline. Neat.



Anyway.. Anyone know whats being constructed at Deerfoot City on the Deerfoot trail side? Looks odd, like two large/tall concrete A looking pillars right now.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2019, 1:14 AM
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Today I learned the Louvre is in the Beltline. Neat.

Yeah. They have a satellite site out in some place called Paris.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2019, 1:14 AM
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Update on the Cancer Centre

https://twitter.com/AHS_CancerCare/status/1089970846402195457
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The Calgary Cancer Centre just finished the concrete pour for the first slab area of L1. The area poured is the drop off area / front entrance / donor recognition and town square! https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/info/page15399.aspx
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Looks like Bill Smith is pushing for a McMahon replacement that would eat up land that was destined for a separate fieldhouse while absorbing funds that were meant for the fieldhouse project and transferring prime land at 16th and Crowchild for the hockey conglomerate and PBA Land and Development to make additional billions.

Published by the UCP media team at Post Media:
https://calgarysun.com/news/local-news/f...wcm/2f3512bf-5dbf-4a1a-b430-31a163071584

Without having looked at the details, it seems more interesting than the West Village fiasco. Very positive if they truly have the university on board.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2019, 1:58 AM
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Looks like Bill Smith is pushing for a McMahon replacement that would eat up land that was destined for a separate fieldhouse while absorbing funds that were meant for the fieldhouse project and transferring prime land at 16th and Crowchild for the hockey conglomerate and PBA Land and Development to make additional billions.

Published by the UCP media team at Post Media:
https://calgarysun.com/news/local-news/f...wcm/2f3512bf-5dbf-4a1a-b430-31a163071584

Without having looked at the details, it seems more interesting than the West Village fiasco. Very positive if they truly have the university on board.
Bill Smith is still around? I'm shocked, I assumed he literally did not have any thoughts of his own and that probably remains the case. Still though, I have much more sympathy for a new stadium than I do for a publicly subsidized arena, so I'm open to ideas on the subject.

The fact though that they couldn't even draw their diagram/map such that it fitted within the boundaries of the road network makes me think this is not yet a fully fleshed out proposal...
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2019, 2:14 AM
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Hopefully they keep a tailgating area for pregame and what not.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2019, 2:22 AM
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Looks like Bill Smith is pushing for a McMahon replacement that would eat up land that was destined for a separate fieldhouse while absorbing funds that were meant for the fieldhouse project and transferring prime land at 16th and Crowchild for the hockey conglomerate and PBA Land and Development to make additional billions.

Published by the UCP media team at Post Media:
https://calgarysun.com/news/local-news/f...wcm/2f3512bf-5dbf-4a1a-b430-31a163071584

Without having looked at the details, it seems more interesting than the West Village fiasco. Very positive if they truly have the university on board.
What hockey conglomerate?
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