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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 5:33 AM
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You need to quit with the strawman arguments abd go back to the beginning. Someone said Aspen Woods was more expensive than the Beltline and that it would be like comparing McDonalds to a steak dinner. Well he was right, no matter how you look at it Aspen Woods is more expensive. At the end of the day you get your bill at a restaurant and the steak dinner is gonna be more expensive just like a dwelling in Aspen Woods is gonna be more expensive. In the end, the only thing you can compare is the bill and most poor people can’t afford the steak dinner, and are forced to go to McDonald’s.
Maybe you do but the rest of us don’t buy real estate and a place to live like it’s a dinner. People eat steak one day and McDonald’s the next. He’s saying people only live in Beltline because it’s cheaper which is BS and you know it.
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Dude, we've all lapped you about 10 times now.
You’re the one going in circles.
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You’re the one going in circles.
No, I went straight to the point and checkmated you immediately.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 6:58 AM
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No, I went straight to the point and checkmated you immediately.
You had no point. Also, you’re playing the chess. We’re not playing chess son. We’re not even playing a game. Do you need directions?
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 3:49 PM
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Drove in from Cochrane this afternoon and saw a second crane now up at the Scenic Acres site - Scenic Grand?
Looks like it is a standard four floor structure. I'm seen more and more long term care facilities that are more interesting designs and slightly taller IE 5-6 floors (EG Walden, SkyPointe, etc.), but unfortunately not the case here.

I'm curious if all the lawsuits against Revera for abuse will impact projects like this. Apparently there are ~85 law suits across the country (I posted about four Calgary families suing them in the crime forum) each looking for an average of $2.5M for abuse, negligence causing injury, negligence causing death, etc. Apparently they have among the lowest staff to resident ratios. Problem for those requiring services like this is that demand continues to outstrip supply.
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Aside from the extra 2-3,000 homeless people in and around the Beltline most of those living in dwellings are transient population, the main reason the Beltline has no sense of community. There’s no chance to get to know neighbors and set roots. When your whole neighbourhood is rental and neighbors are coming and going every month it becomes an every man for themselves type neighbourhood.
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I'm not surprised that the Beltline has increased its population by a significant amount, solidifying position #2, with a trajectory that will likely have it take over as the most populous area this year. There are many new units that have gone up. Further, it won't stop because of two reasons. 1.) In-migration usually comes as close to the core as possible, and often requires rentals, which the Beltline is king in, and 2.) markets will push rental prices down, and that will have the desired effect of eating into the massive vacancy rate in the area.

Let me pump the Beltline's tires even more. If we go by the number of people who reside in the Beltline, and not just the people who reside in dwellings, I bet it is already the most populous area in the city, likely sitting near 27,000.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 4:46 PM
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Aside from the extra 2-3,000 homeless people in and around the Beltline most of those living in dwellings are transient population, the main reason the Beltline has no sense of community. There’s no chance to get to know neighbors and set roots. When your whole neighbourhood is rental and neighbors are coming and going every month it becomes an every man for themselves type neighbourhood.
True. If you had a survey of those living there asking how many lived in their dwelling for 10 years, the percentages would be extremely low. Even of those who may be long term residents, often they remain because they have no choice but to do so.

A thoughtful and serious look at how the beltline can keep people into adulthood likely is required, or on the other hand, acceptance that this is simply a place that you move through as you correctly observed.

I'm curious what the green line will do. Will it enhance / improve the situation, or enable more debauchery in the shadows?

I'm hopeful those outlining the detailed designs of green line underground stations in the beltline and core will have the proper technology - certainly proper cameras with 200% coverage (cover every sf from two angles minimum) plus deterrents such as noise cannons for after the line's last train of the night and/or to clear out riots and the like.
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You had no point. Also, you’re playing the chess. We’re not playing chess son. We’re not even playing a game. Do you need directions?
Are you self-destructing now?
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Are you self-destructing now?
Are you ever going to post anything of value or will it always be 4-5 word drive-bys?
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 6:50 PM
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Are you ever going to post anything of value or will it always be 4-5 word drive-bys?
The irony!

Come on Suburgatory. No one is after you, so you need to stop getting so defensive. It is almost like you have a special vibrating phone linking to if a sub-set of forumers make a new post. You are right there arguing, insulting, attempting jokes, and being sarcastic - all through not actually contributing to discussion of the topic. Let it go. Maybe take a couple days break. It'll be good for you.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 7:05 PM
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The irony!

Come on Suburgatory. No one is after you, so you need to stop getting so defensive. It is almost like you have a special vibrating phone linking to if a sub-set of forumers make a new post. You are right there arguing, insulting, attempting jokes, and being sarcastic - all through not actually contributing to discussion of the topic. Let it go. Maybe take a couple days break. It'll be good for you.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 7:07 PM
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The irony!

Come on Suburgatory. No one is after you, so you need to stop getting so defensive. It is almost like you have a special vibrating phone linking to if a sub-set of forumers make a new post. You are right there arguing, insulting, attempting jokes, and being sarcastic - all through not actually contributing to discussion of the topic. Let it go. Maybe take a couple days break. It'll be good for you.
Oh the irony!

Says the guy who gets defensive when he gets validly called out for his indiscretions.

Take a break? I’m thoroughly entertained.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 7:33 PM
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Are you ever going to post anything of value or will it always be 4-5 word drive-bys?
Fortunately his drive-bys are only 4 or 5 words. Some others who I won't mention Su*****ia, No***rn and Ba*****ly do long diatribes that are painful to read.
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Fortunately his drive-bys are only 4 or 5 words. Some others who I won't mention Su*****ia, No***rn and Ba*****ly do long diatribes that are painful to read.
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Are you ever going to post anything of value or will it always be 4-5 word drive-bys?
I feel like some people are purposely being obtuse. I get that some people like the Beltline (some people also like living in the North Pole), but by a large the vast majority of people who live there, live there not by choice, but by socio-economic circumstances. There is cheap rent, and it is a good place to start out. Once you mature and build some money it’s time to move on to better, and for most that means the suburbs. It’s always been that way and always will be.

You two or three outliers here who like the Beltline can enjoy it all you want, but don’t expect the rest of us to be interested.
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This one might be interesting for some:
https://www.rentfaster.ca/ab/calgary/rentals/beltline/shared/rad-pad-downtown-360785

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I am a young professional with a business and super flexible schedule. I work from home occasionally or leave for weeks / days to travel for work or just because I love being lost outside and normally in the mountains. I do a ton of yoga, read and smoke pot. I love to cook, so the house probably always smells like spices or garlic. I have people over when I’m feeling social and love to host a good party from time to time. PS- Circe the big, overly friendly mutt lives with me too.

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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 11:12 PM
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I feel like some people are purposely being obtuse. I get that some people like the Beltline (some people also like living in the North Pole), but by a large the vast majority of people who live there, live there not by choice, but by socio-economic circumstances. There is cheap rent, and it is a good place to start out. Once you mature and build some money it’s time to move on to better, and for most that means the suburbs. It’s always been that way and always will be.

You two or three outliers here who like the Beltline can enjoy it all you want, but don’t expect the rest of us to be interested.
And then you post that. Which is incredibly obtuse of you.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2019, 11:13 PM
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Is there a point somewhere there? Or are you just being foolish?
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2019, 12:16 AM
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Is there a point somewhere there? Or are you just being foolish?
Save a few bucks on rent and in a couple months you could get a new windshield!

Joking aside, I was demonstrating how you can live very cheaply in the Beltline, however, you do need to live a certain way of life.
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Save a few bucks on rent and in a couple months you could get a new windshield!

Joking aside, I was demonstrating how you can live very cheaply in the Beltline, however, you do need to live a certain way of life.
You could do all of those things anywhere in the city and for less.
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