Calgary Construction XXVI

[Western Spaghetti]

These Calgary houses posted from speeddog are probably half the price of the Toronto ones that were over a $1million, and twice as nice. Almost makes me want to live in the inner city.













Toronto houses posted by GSS.


This is what a $1Million will buy you.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Corndogger

Nice pics. What is this one supposed to be?

I'm guessing that's the large rental building very close the the childrens' hospital and with a Save-on-foods in it. I've talked about it before, but it has been a while.
https://rhapsodycalgary.ca/

[EDIT]

Nope - I'm wrong. Just checked Rhapsody's FB page, and the crane there is yellow, not red:
https://www.facebook.com/rhapsodyunivers...78276030/391453844942810/?type=3&theater

[Daemon]

Originally Posted by speedog

Highwood, Highland Park is to the east of Highwood and is seeing the same thing.

Okay thank you I check on google and find both Highland Park and Highwood Park. Two different neighborhoods. I see sometimes confusing because they are beside one other.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by suburbia

I'm guessing that's the large rental building very close the the childrens' hospital and with a Save-on-foods in it. I've talked about it before, but it has been a while.
https://rhapsodycalgary.ca/

[EDIT]

Nope - I'm wrong. Just checked Rhapsody's FB page, and the crane there is yellow, not red:
https://www.facebook.com/rhapsodyunivers...78276030/391453844942810/?type=3&theater

So it's a mystery project. It doesn't look like housing to me. Are there plans for a professional building of some kind in that area?

[Stephen Ave]

I know you guys don't like posts that involve SRC, but because you asked.

The mystery project is Maple
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/maple-university-district-m-4s-truman.28388/

This one is Rhapsody
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/...ody-18-8m-6s-gracorp-capital-norr.27863/

Originally Posted by suburbia

I'm guessing that's the large rental building very close the the childrens' hospital and with a Save-on-foods in it. I've talked about it before, but it has been a while.
https://rhapsodycalgary.ca/

[EDIT]

Nope - I'm wrong. Just checked Rhapsody's FB page, and the crane there is yellow, not red:
https://www.facebook.com/rhapsodyunivers...78276030/391453844942810/?type=3&theater

Originally Posted by Corndogger

So it's a mystery project. It doesn't look like housing to me. Are there plans for a professional building of some kind in that area?

[topdog]

I'm nor sure those are the best examples for that argument. Some of the examples of the houses in Calgary are probably closer to the 700-800K mark, and their duplexes!

Originally Posted by Western Spaghetti

These Calgary houses posted from speeddog are probably half the price of the Toronto ones that were over a $1million, and twice as nice. Almost makes me want to live in the inner city.













Toronto houses posted by GSS.


This is what a $1Million will buy you.

[topdog]

Originally Posted by Daemon

Okay thank you I check on google and find both Highland Park and Highwood Park. Two different neighborhoods. I see sometimes confusing because they are beside one other.

They are separate communities.

Highwood
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Highwoo...75757f62!8m2!3d51.0918669!4d-114.0794622

and

Highland Park
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Highlan...1f11c83c!8m2!3d51.0912437!4d-114.0632825

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by Stephen Ave

I know you guys don't like posts that involve SRC, but because you asked.

The mystery project is Maple
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/maple-university-district-m-4s-truman.28388/

This one is Rhapsody
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/...ody-18-8m-6s-gracorp-capital-norr.27863/

Thanks for the info. So the mystery project is seniors housing. Looks nice. I had to laugh at the rendering showing the hot 20 something girls walking around the project. Is that going to be a selling feature? lol

[speedog]

Originally Posted by Western Spaghetti

These Calgary houses posted from speeddog are probably half the price of the Toronto ones that were over a $1million, and twice as nice. Almost makes me want to live in the inner city.

Just so you know, Highwood still isn't considered inner city.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Stephen Ave

I know you guys don't like posts that involve SRC, but because you asked.

The mystery project is Maple
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/maple-university-district-m-4s-truman.28388/

This one is Rhapsody
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/...ody-18-8m-6s-gracorp-capital-norr.27863/

Looks like our photos here are more up to date on these two, and I think a lot has been shared about Rhapsody over the years. Their FB construction update photos I pointed to are pretty good.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by speedog

Just so you know, Highwood still isn't considered inner city.

I suspect you're referring to some official City of Calgary map of inner city, but it got me thinking, what exactly is "inner city" and if there is more formal definition.

Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_city

The term "inner city" has been used as a euphemism for lower-income residential districts in the city center and nearby areas.

Dictionary - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/inner-city

an older part of a city, densely populated and usually deteriorating, inhabited mainly by poor, often minority, groups.

Collins English Dictionary

the parts of a city in or near its centre, esp when they are associated with poverty, unemployment, substandard housing, etc

New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, 3rd Edition

A general term for impoverished areas of large cities. The inner city is characterized by minimal educational opportunities, high unemployment and crime rates, broken families, and inadequate housing. ( See ghettos.)

Dictionary - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ghettos

a section of a city, especially a thickly populated slum area, inhabited predominantly by members of an ethnic or other minority group, often as a result of social or economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships.

Based on all of the above, I think Calgary's actual inner city is much smaller than what many consider. As an example, Crescent Height or Upper Mount Royal are neither slum'ish or high density. In fact, most of the SFH in what till now we've been calling inner city are 1,000sf or less bungalows on 6,000 sf lots. That's not inner city, that's inner sprawl.

So we have the Beltline, which for certain should be included in the "inner city" based on virtually all of the actual definitions, and only a few small areas beyond the core and Beltline. Then we have a band of what we've now coined as inner sprawl. The absolute lowest density parts of the entire city. And then the outer city. If you look at US cities, they don't think of things as suburbs till you're past our Stoney trail, and of course then you have commuter communities way out beyond that.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Western Spaghetti

Almost makes me want to live in the inner city.

IMHO, the above two are rather ugly. I think they look more like city owned utilities buildings than custom homes. The first is kinda okay, I mean it is a big home and may make you feel like you're living in a small fire station. The second one looks like it would have electrical equipment inside.

[X_ting_on]

Originally Posted by suburbia

Looks like our photos here are more up to date on these two, and I think a lot has been shared about Rhapsody over the years. Their FB construction update photos I pointed to are pretty good.

Hmmm, except there is very little on this thread for either of these projects, and no info or discussion whatsoever. Nobody including you knew what the other project was, so don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

[Western Spaghetti]

Originally Posted by speedog

Just so you know, Highwood still isn't considered inner city.

And just so you know it depends on who you talk to and the context. There is no official map outlying the inner city boundaries, so depending on the context, it still could be.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by X_ting_on

Hmmm, except there is very little on this thread for either of these projects, and no info or discussion whatsoever. Nobody including you knew what the other project was, so don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

It is true I didn't know the second project, but the most recent image of it was indeed posted here.

There has been at least ten posts on Rhapsody (and from before it was even on the SRC radar), however the thing is, it doesn't have its own thread, and nor does University District, so there is not one link I can point to that has the information consolidated. Even the Save-on-foods announcement was posted here first. The other site has better moderator ownership, and they actual ensure there are threads for all major projects. Here everything gets dumped into one thread for the most part. As a very recent example, I sent a note to our moderator suggesting that all SFH discussions, be they infill, mansion or otherwise (and possibly including lane homes) could be in a separate thread, making space for those discussions, while also de-cluttering this thread. No response, so I followed up. It has been weeks and no response. So there you have it. There the moderators try to focus on positives and improve things. Here the moderators spend they time deleting things and handing out punishments, and ignore messages.

[Western Spaghetti]

Unfortunately those formal definitions were probably defined 100 years ago, and don't really apply anymore. Sunnyside or Crescent Heights would easily be described inner city and not inner sprawl - a term used by nobody.

Originally Posted by suburbia

I suspect you're referring to some official City of Calgary map of inner city, but it got me thinking, what exactly is "inner city" and if there is more formal definition.

Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_city


Dictionary - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/inner-city


Collins English Dictionary


New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, 3rd Edition


Dictionary - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ghettos


Based on all of the above, I think Calgary's actual inner city is much smaller than what many consider. As an example, Crescent Height or Upper Mount Royal are neither slum'ish or high density. In fact, most of the SFH in what till now we've been calling inner city are 1,000sf or less bungalows on 6,000 sf lots. That's not inner city, that's inner sprawl.

So we have the Beltline, which for certain should be included in the "inner city" based on virtually all of the actual definitions, and only a few small areas beyond the core and Beltline. Then we have a band of what we've now coined as inner sprawl. The absolute lowest density parts of the entire city. And then the outer city. If you look at US cities, they don't think of things as suburbs till you're past our Stoney trail, and of course then you have commuter communities way out beyond that.

[X_ting_on]

Thanks for posting Stephen Ave. I like any post that has useful information in it, so it's much appreciated.

Originally Posted by Stephen Ave

I know you guys don't like posts that involve SRC, but because you asked.

The mystery project is Maple
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/maple-university-district-m-4s-truman.28388/

This one is Rhapsody
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/...ody-18-8m-6s-gracorp-capital-norr.27863/

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Western Spaghetti

Unfortunately those formal definitions were probably defined 100 years ago, and don't really apply anymore. Sunnyside or Crescent Heights would easily be described inner city and not inner sprawl - a term used by nobody.

Those are current definitions of inner city. The dictionaries and publications get reviewed and updated annually. I think it unfair to discount an official description just because it doesn't mesh with unsubstantiated definitions in your mind. It is reality.

Regarding "Inner Sprawl", I'm suggesting it as a new descriptor for those parts of what you're calling inner city that are not actually inner city based on official descriptions.

[Bad Grizzly]

Not that the Toronto house are any bargain, but wow, those ones from Calgary are not great examples of good value. Half of the houses are duplexes which are a poor man's version of a real house, and probably cost close to a Million bucks. The Toronto houses might actually be better value!

Originally Posted by Western Spaghetti

These Calgary houses posted from speeddog are probably half the price of the Toronto ones that were over a $1million, and twice as nice. Almost makes me want to live in the inner city.













Toronto houses posted by GSS.


This is what a $1Million will buy you.

[GeneralLea]

When quoting large amounts of photos....can we try and cut them out? It's not very exciting to see the same 8 photos 5 times over a few pages, mixed with other more important information. Great updates anyways.