Calgary Construction XXVI

[ST1]

1) That's pretty obvious. How many small multi-family projects have you seen made from steel framing?

2) 3) 4) The last three questions are broad and vague and answers are all dependent on several factors. You need to be more specific.

Originally Posted by suburbia

Given the discussion about this MFH site, it got me wondering about the difference between wood-frame construction versus steel beam.

Anyone have a synopsis on which is:
1.) less expensive,
2.) takes less time to build,
3.) is a better choice for the environment, and
4.) has less longer term maintenance / longer life?

On a somewhat related note, I've also heard of some people using one or two steel beams in their wood frame construction single family homes so as to reduce the need for a post. I've not actually seen this myself. Any thoughts on this IE any real downside?

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by ST1

1) That's pretty obvious. How many small multi-family projects have you seen made from steel framing?

Fair I suppose - though perhaps it could be different over a lifespan, say over 50 or 75 years.

Originally Posted by ST1

2) 3) 4) The last three questions are broad and vague and answers are all dependent on several factors. You need to be more specific.

I do not have more specifics. And I think it is okay to have broad questions to generate construction related discussion. This is not an FAQ or DIY forum where I need to provide model number and symptoms of a faulty washing machine to get a relevant answer.

Frankly speaking, I enjoy learn from people like Rollerstud98 and others who know things about construction that I do not (like with the HVAC discussion some days ago).

[Northern]

Next time the workers are on site take note of the company that they work for or ask the workers themselves. My guess is it will be a small multifamily development.

Originally Posted by Fishthebow

Hi folks, I asked about this earlier, does anyone know what's being built at this location? It's a big lot that's been empty for a while, but there have been some worker dudes on site a couple of times in the last while.

[Northern]

There's a reason you don't see houses built out of steel frame. A metal framed house would last longer, but cost magnitudes more, and wood houses already last longer then the lifespan of the average person.

Originally Posted by suburbia

Fair I suppose - though perhaps it could be different over a lifespan, say over 50 or 75 years.



I do not have more specifics. And I think it is okay to have broad questions to generate construction related discussion. This is not an FAQ or DIY forum where I need to provide model number and symptoms of a faulty washing machine to get a relevant answer.

Frankly speaking, I enjoy learn from people like Rollerstud98 and others who know things about construction that I do not (like with the HVAC discussion some days ago).

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Northern

There's a reason you don't see houses built out of steel frame.

I could have sworn that big house coming up on Crescent Heights is metal frame - but of course, even if true, I get the spirit of your comment.

Do you think it wrong for that home owner to have paid the extra dollars for metal frame? Are there things they'll be able to do on that design that would be difficult with wood?

[Rollerstud98]

Originally Posted by suburbia

I could have sworn that big house coming up on Crescent Heights is metal frame - but of course, even if true, I get the spirit of your comment.

Do you think it wrong for that home owner to have paid the extra dollars for metal frame? Are there things they'll be able to do on that design that would be difficult with wood?

That house is being built like a commercial building. Concrete floors on both levels with Qdeck under it. Not something you see in residential construction at all really. They have payed a whole bunch more for these construction methods.

[Deepstar]

There were a few metal beams but mostly wood frame.

Originally Posted by suburbia

I could have sworn that big house coming up on Crescent Heights is metal frame - but of course, even if true, I get the spirit of your comment.

Do you think it wrong for that home owner to have paid the extra dollars for metal frame? Are there things they'll be able to do on that design that would be difficult with wood?

[Rollerstud98]

Originally Posted by Deepstar

There were a few metal beams but mostly wood frame.

More than just a few beams, the primary structure is steel and concrete with exterior walls framed in wood.

[Suburgatory]

Originally Posted by suburbia

I could have sworn that big house coming up on Crescent Heights is metal frame - but of course, even if true, I get the spirit of your comment.

Do you think it wrong for that home owner to have paid the extra dollars for metal frame? Are there things they'll be able to do on that design that would be difficult with wood?

Span

[topdog]

Nice find. Decent quality pics, and more importantly, nice to see it from angles we never get to see.

Originally Posted by Northern

Found some online pics of Telus Sky from angles we've never seen before.

https://www.emporis.com

[topdog]

Originally Posted by suburbia

I could have sworn that big house coming up on Crescent Heights is metal frame - but of course, even if true, I get the spirit of your comment.

Do you think it wrong for that home owner to have paid the extra dollars for metal frame? Are there things they'll be able to do on that design that would be difficult with wood?

The owner obviously has big bucks, he probably figured why not go for the gusto. There's a massive house in Pump hill that was built with concrete, and even had a tower crane.

[SteveP]

Thanks for posting Northern. Those must have been taken from Guardian or Arriva.

Originally Posted by Northern

Found some online pics of Telus Sky from angles we've never seen before.

https://www.emporis.com

[Western Spaghetti]

Telus sky looks amazing from that angle.

Originally Posted by Northern

Found some online pics of Telus Sky from angles we've never seen before.

https://www.emporis.com

[Western Spaghetti]

Some are taken from down around 7th ave.

Originally Posted by SteveP

Thanks for posting Northern. Those must have been taken from Guardian or Arriva.

[Western Spaghetti]

Originally Posted by topdog

The owner obviously has big bucks, he probably figured why not go for the gusto. There's a massive house in Pump hill that was built with concrete, and even had a tower crane.

Yeah, I remember when they were building it. You could see the crane from 14th street.

[thegoodlife]

Originally Posted by topdog

The owner obviously has big bucks, he probably figured why not go for the gusto. There's a massive house in Pump hill that was built with concrete, and even had a tower crane.

That house used top belong to Alfred Baum. He was the owner of Fracmaster. IIRC the house is around 30,000 sq ft give or take.

[thegoodlife]

Lots of action happening around the airport these days. I'm going to be in the area alot and will give regular updates.






Another business park (Saddleridge Business Park) getting set to go ahead.



Another business park (Cityscape Landing) going ahead


Bus route and stop already installed.






Another residential community (Cityscape) on the rise






Some more construction

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by thegoodlife

That house used top belong to Alfred Baum. He was the owner of Fracmaster. IIRC the house is around 30,000 sq ft give or take.

I didn't realize he had sold it! Who purchased it?

Although it is smaller, I prefer his property on Lake Geneva.

According to this article, Alfred's Pumphill house has the second highest appraised value in the city, behind one in Mount Royal (likely the Titanic house).

https://calgaryherald.com/business/real-...ary-housing-market-creb-report-indicates

These are the 10 most expensive residential properties and their neighbourhoods as calculated by the City of Calgary’s market value assessment. It was conducted July 1, 2018.

1. $19.90 million — Upper Mount Royal
2. $18.49 million — Pump Hill

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by thegoodlife

Another residential community (Cityscape) on the rise

Although there is an ungodly amount of monotony in that new residential area, I am appreciative of a.) the good amount of mid-density, and b.) the use of solar panels on homes / garages.

If you get a chance, cross over to the other side of Deerfoot on Country Hills, and then take a right on 14th street NE. If you continue till around 128th, you'll see the new massive Calgary Transit natural gas bus facility.

This image is quite old, and only shows the first part of the building. The rough-in on the right is the second part of the building, and the whole thing is basically done now. It's rather large, and will become important for the Transits plans going forward:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@51.1669033,-114.02192,473m/data=!3m1!1e3

This time lapse of the construction goes till I think around September. It is well past this now:
• Video Link

[topdog]

Good mix of residential, and commercial. Looking forward to the regular updates.

Originally Posted by thegoodlife

Lots of action happening around the airport these days. I'm going to be in the area alot and will give regular updates.






Another business park (Saddleridge Business Park) getting set to go ahead.



Another business park (Cityscape Landing) going ahead


Bus route and stop already installed.






Another residential community (Cityscape) on the rise






Some more construction