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Originally Posted by OtrainUser
No i didn't miss the point there are a number of towns that MOOSE wants to serve that can be easily served by VIA rail since they have stations there now already. Those towns can be served better with HFR from VIA.
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VIA's primary service target is long distance travelers (i.e. Ottawa to Toronto, or Kingston, or Montreal) not short distance travelers between Ottawa and places like Richmond or Vars... You might get some overlap in service from places that are further out like Smiths Falls and Alexandria but as it is today the large majority of passengers travelling on VIA are travelling further out than that.
One of the selling points of HFR (IIRC) is an increased number of trains travelling between "major hubs" with no stops in between to allow for faster travel times between large cities. So if there are hourly VIA trains between Ottawa and Toronto and you think that they'll all stop a those little stops along the way, then you're wrong. Anyone taking those trains from say, Toronto, won't be happy that their trips are being slowed down to serve those extra stops either.
They're designed for longer distance travel that don't have stops every 2-5km like a regional system has. They don't have automatic doors and the configuration of each car is not well designed for loading and unloading passengers efficiently. They're great for comfort (which is great on long distance trips) but otherwise they're lacking for commuter rail.
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You are asking us to trust MOOSE who has no experience as a rail company since they have yet to prove themselves which is why no invester has taken an interest in them. Again those stations in the GTA were already served by GO and before that CN's former commuter service in the GTA which is why you only have 1 VIA station in Oshawa but that is not what i'm talking about, VIA already has the stations in eastern Ontario going all the way to Smith's falls SO THE VIA STATIONS ARE ALREADY THERE and thats what I'm talking about.
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It doesn't matter if it's MOOSE or some other "more trustworthy" organization (like idk, GO) setting up a commuter rail system. It does not make sense to ask VIA to take a major hit to their efficiency to provide a service that they clearly don't have an interest in and that they clearly aren't designed to provide.
They have 5 stations in Eastern Ontario which doesn't even cover half the places I listed or that are possible. If these regions are going to be served by rail, it should be a regional rail provider who does so, not VIA.
On top of that it also doesn't address the other 20-30 stops that MOOSE wants to target such as Arnprior, Wakefield, anything east of Gatineau, North Kanata, etc.
I don't know why it's so hard for you to get the difference between long distance rail and regional rail and why it isn't a bad thing to have overlapping rail lines with one providing the long distance service (that doesn't stop everywhere in between) and on providing the regional service (that does stop everywhere in between). VIA is set up exclusively to provide the latter service and has shown no interest in providing the latter because they leave it to other railways such as GO or exo to provide instead.
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Again the current populations in those Exurbs don't justify rail service, their populations need to be at least 100,000 people and thats per town. Orleans and Kanata for stage 2 and 3 will be just getting LRT and those populations are over 100,000 people.
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Hence the unconventional business model.
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