The Official PEI Project Thread

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by SummersideIslander07

Developers propose 7-storey apartment building for downtown Summerside

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed...nstruction-proposed-summerside-1.4963709

No offence, but this apartment building is pretty ugly looking. Hopefully the end product looks better than the render.

Good to see Summerside joining the "big leagues". Is there the demand in the city for a large apartment building such as this???

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

No offence, but this apartment building is pretty ugly looking. Hopefully the end product looks better than the render.

Good to see Summerside joining the "big leagues". Is there the demand in the city for a large apartment building such as this???

I don’t find the render looks that bad, but I doubt there is demand in Summerside for this. It’ll be a nice piece of infill though!

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by josh_cat_eyes

I don’t find the render looks that bad, but I doubt there is demand in Summerside for this. It’ll be a nice piece of infill though!

I dunno, I think it gives off a bit of a commie block vibe to me - very bland and flat looking, no stylistic flare and not many balconies. It will be by far the most prominent building in the city, and as such, should be a signature building (at least of sorts).

I've always been disappointed with Assomption Place in Moncton too - far too brutalist for such a prominent building in the city skyline.

[TGK]

Originally Posted by braymondg

Kent Plaza is seven stories in Charlottetown and has been the tallest apartment for many decades. Someone should correct them as the information is false.

Kent Plaza is 6.5 stories - the main floor apartments are partially underground. There's a technically name for this, but I can't think of it off the top of my head.

Either way, that Summerside project will never go ahead as planned, so I am sure Kent Plaza will retain its status as the Island's tallest apartment building.

[Ifyoubuildit]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I dunno, I think it gives off a bit of a commie block vibe to me - very bland and flat looking, no stylistic flare and not many balconies. It will be by far the most prominent building in the city, and as such, should be a signature building (at least of sorts).

I've always been disappointed with Assomption Place in Moncton too - far too brutalist for such a prominent building in the city skyline.

Agreed, this apartment building looks like a lego design built by a 5yr old. And it won't exactly add to the natural appeal of the Summerside waterfront. Sorry, but I wish some creativity could be added to designs in Atlantic Canada. And yes, it can be done without adding an exorbitant amount of cost, it is called hiring an architect.

[PEI highway guy]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

No offence, but this apartment building is pretty ugly looking. Hopefully the end product looks better than the render.

Good to see Summerside joining the "big leagues". Is there the demand in the city for a large apartment building such as this???

I live in Summerside, off hand I would say no there is not enough demand. The reality is every rental that has been built in the town in the last 5 years is full. Many rentals are taken over the phone site unseen. So While I am unsure where everyone is coming from, this project should have no issues finding tenants.

[braymondg]

Originally Posted by SummersideIslander07

Developers propose 7-storey apartment building for downtown Summerside

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed...nstruction-proposed-summerside-1.4963709

Couldn't they put this building a bit more inland. Awfully ugly and doesn't match the community. Way too much for a city of only 14,000. They need to downsize it to fit in. Also, the city is having trouble with population growth and may be half empty a good part of the time and would drastically change an otherwise beautiful waterfront.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by braymondg

Couldn't they put this building a bit more inland. Awfully ugly and doesn't match the community. Way too much for a city of only 14,000. They need to downsize it to fit in. Also, the city is having trouble with population growth and may be half empty a good part of the time and would drastically change an otherwise beautiful waterfront.

It is affordable housing so I'm guessing they are going to move people from other nearby areas to fill all 56 units.

[braymondg]

Originally Posted by SummersideIslander07

Developers propose 7-storey apartment building for downtown Summerside

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-ed...nstruction-proposed-summerside-1.4963709

Originally Posted by Scarface

It is affordable housing so I'm guessing they are going to move people from other nearby areas to fill all 56 units.

If this is where they want to put affordable housing, then they are far from shopping and medical access. The north end would be better. Is there a bus service in Summerside?

[PEI highway guy]

Originally Posted by braymondg

If this is where they want to put affordable housing, then they are far from shopping and medical access. The north end would be better. Is there a bus service in Summerside?

there is a small buss service, it uses a 20 passenger van. It is very poorly used and heavily subsidized by the city. I have not seen more than 1 or 2 people on the bus at any time.

[billy1]

Summerside has a 0.9% vacancy rate, so this is definitely needed.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by braymondg

If this is where they want to put affordable housing, then they are far from shopping and medical access. The north end would be better. Is there a bus service in Summerside?

I agree. If it is affordable housing, then it should be in the north end somewhere off Granville St., close to the shopping district, schools and the hospital.

Affordable housing does not belong on the waterfront, next to the tourist infrastructure, especially when it is a butt-ugly building.

This is a definite fail as far as I'm concerned.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I agree. If it is affordable housing, then it should be in the north end somewhere off Granville St., close to the shopping district, schools and the hospital.

Affordable housing does not belong on the waterfront, next to the tourist infrastructure, especially when it is a butt-ugly building.

This is a definite fail as far as I'm concerned.

So you would rather it be built across from Walmart Summerside Supercentre (511 Granville Street)
Potential address 512 Granville Street?

[MonctonRad]

I actually lived on Granville Street at one time for about a year (#412 if I recall correctly - it was nearly 35 years ago).

And, yes, an affordable housing commie block and a Wal Mart would make an excellent pairing........

[PEI highway guy]

According to the Journal Pioneer the building is being built on the old Burger King Parking Lot.

[braymondg]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I actually lived on Granville Street at one time for about a year (#412 if I recall correctly - it was nearly 35 years ago).

And, yes, an affordable housing commie block and a Wal Mart would make an excellent pairing........

I agree with MonctonRad! What a terrible spot to put it in! Without viable bus service, affordable living won't be so affordable if you have no way to get around. Mind you, some may have vehicles but those that don't will find it difficult.
Not much planning put into this one The Stratford location , soon to built, will have a viable bus service to access important living concerns.

[PEI highway guy]

[QUOTE=braymondg;8426287]I agree with MonctonRad! What a terrible spot to put it in! Without viable bus service, affordable living won't be so affordable if you have no way to get around. Mind you, some may have vehicles but those that don't will find it difficult.
Not much planning put into this one

I Just arrived home from passing the proposed property and it is staked off with construction stakes . The long vacant/ torn down Ultramar lot next door is also for sale. Lots of chatter at the farmer's market about this proposal and nobody was in favour.

The feeling was that council will allow the proposal because of the low income units component of the project.

Should be interesting to see this play out.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by PEI highway guy

I Just arrived home from passing the proposed property and it is staked off with construction stakes . The long vacant/ torn down Ultramar lot next door is also for sale. Lots of chatter at the farmer's market about this proposal and nobody was in favour.

The feeling was that council will allow the proposal because of the low income units component of the project.

Should be interesting to see this play out.

This building will forever change the character of downtown Summerside, and I can guarantee you that this change will not be for the better. If this proposal has not already been passed by city council, I encourage you or other people that you may know to make a petition before the next city council meeting to address the issue. If as you say most people are against this in Summerside, then city council should be made aware of the public's sentiments.

I am most certainly not against low income housing. It is desperately needed. Thought however is necessary in determining where this public housing should be located. North Granville would be infinitely better than Main Street in this regard.......

[PEI highway guy]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

This building will forever change the character of downtown Summerside, and I can guarantee you that this change will not be for the better. If this proposal has not already been passed by city council, I encourage you or other people that you may know to make a petition before the next city council meeting to address the issue. If as you say most people are against this in Summerside, then city council should be made aware of the public's sentiments.

I am most certainly not against low income housing. It is desperately needed. Thought however is necessary in determining where this public housing should be located. North Granville would be infinitely better than Main Street in this regard.......

IIRC, when the Burger King closed the Summerside Regional Development Corp bought this land. The Corp. had an eye on developing it in the same manner as Spinakers Landing, (tourist shops, Restaurants) across the street. The lot has been vacant for a good number of years. A Dixie Lee opened next door which has been struggling to attract people. I guess SRDC is giving up on their plans and selling the lot.

[Scarface]

I will point out the project has only passed a single hurdle(there are more to come), and if people would have brought up it's location, and lack of accessibility to Shopping, and Hospital instead of surrounding buildings. I do believe it would not have passed the first hurdle at all.