900 Albert St | 234/203/105m | 65/56/23fl | Approved - Page 34

ars · #**661** Posted **Dec 18, 2018, 8:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by cr872190

The project is being challenged at LPAT, so it cannot continue until that is resolved.

According to Jim Watson, this project isn't affected by the Melnyk-Ruddy lawsuit(s).

J.OT13 · #**662** Posted **Dec 18, 2018, 8:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by ars

According to Jim Watson, this project isn't affected by the Melnyk-Ruddy lawsuit(s).

LPAT (Local Planning Appeal Tribunal) is the new OMB. They can't start until the LPAT appeal is resolved.

phil235 · #**663** Posted **Dec 18, 2018, 8:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

LPAT (Local Planning Appeal Tribunal) is the new OMB. They can't start until the LPAT appeal is resolved.

Fair point.

ars · #**664** Posted **Dec 18, 2018, 9:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

LPAT (Local Planning Appeal Tribunal) is the new OMB. They can't start until the LPAT appeal is resolved.

From my understanding, the LPAT case was opened several months prior to Melnyk's lawsuit and has no relation to the lawsuit.

The LPAT case resolution is part of the normal process for the project, something that would have happened whether there was a lawsuit or not.

cr872190 · #**665** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 1:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by ars

From my understanding, the LPAT case was opened several months prior to Melnyk's lawsuit and has no relation to the lawsuit.

The LPAT case resolution is part of the normal process for the project, something that would have happened whether there was a lawsuit or not.

You are correct that the LPAT case has nothing to do with the Lebreton issue.

However the appeal was initiated by an individual from the Dalhousie Community Association and is not part of the normal site plan approval process.

cr872190 · #**666** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 8:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by cr872190

You are correct that the LPAT case has nothing to do with the Lebreton issue.

However the appeal was initiated by an individual from the Dalhousie Community Association and is not part of the normal site plan approval process.

Actually just found out that LPAT found the appeal invalid and gave the DCA until today to respond and it appears they have not met the deadline. Looks like construction can start whenever Trinity is ready.

alamgirkhan · #**667** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by cr872190

Actually just found out that LPAT found the appeal invalid and gave the DCA until today to respond and it appears they have not met the deadline. Looks like construction can start whenever Trinity is ready.

Could we get a source please?

cr872190 · #**668** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 9:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by alamgirkhan

Could we get a source please?

alamgirkhan · #**669** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 9:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by cr872190

Sorry trying to post from mobile is annoying. This might be huge.

This makes me happy. Thank you for the update!

waterloowarrior · #**670** Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 5:13 AM**

Wow, great update! New LPAT criteria make it challenging to appeal - not really a PPS issue for OPA if already designated high density, same GFA, etc

Proof Sheet · #**671** Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 11:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Wow, great update! New LPAT criteria make it challenging to appeal - not really a PPS issue for OPA if already designated high density, same GFA, etc

I haven't appeared at the LPAT (actually it has been probably 10 years since an OMB appearance) but I know those in the industry who do this as their bread and butter find the hearing structure quite strange. From what I hear, the lawyers make a presentation of the salient facts to the member and there is little in the way of cross examination etc that used to dominate hearings.

Proof Sheet · #**672** Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 11:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by cr872190

Would you be able to post the appeal letter that wasn't deemed to be complete by LPAT. That would be interesting to see.

Proof Sheet · #**673** Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 1:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Wow, great update! New LPAT criteria make it challenging to appeal - not really a PPS issue for OPA if already designated high density, same GFA, etc

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onlpat/doc/2018/2018canlii122083/2018canlii122083.html

Recent decision where this surfaces.

enrigue8 · #**674** Posted **Feb 23, 2019, 7:55 AM**

A photo of the area i took yesterday.
There's no activity at all.
I wonder if it will be built ?
Does someone have insider informations.
Thank you in advance.

Soi-Fon · #**675** Posted **Feb 23, 2019, 3:19 PM**

Ford government shuts down agency that helps people fight zoning appeals

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Opposition accuses PCs of doing favours for developers by closing new support centre

The Ford government is closing a provincial agency that gives legal assistance to residents battling development changes in their local municipality.

The Local Planning Appeal Support Centre was created just last year as part of the Wynne government's reforms to the former Ontario Municipal Board (OMB), a body long criticized for favouring developers in its decisions about zoning.

More in article linked bellow.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5029624

Is this a good, or a bad thing?

J.OT13 · #**676** Posted **Feb 23, 2019, 3:39 PM**

It's bad. Sure there are a lot of groups opposing development for the sake of opposing development, but eliminating this agency also cripples the groups who fight for legitimate reasons, for example S.O.S Vanier opposing the Salvation Army on Montreal Road.

OCCheetos · #**677** Posted **Feb 23, 2019, 3:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by enrigue8

A photo of the area i took yesterday.
There's no activity at all.
I wonder if it will be built ?
Does someone have insider informations.
Thank you in advance.

Yesterday they announced that Trinity would fund the construction of a pedestrian bridge between the developments and Bayview station. I'd assume that will only happen if the towers get built.

acottawa · #**678** Posted **Feb 23, 2019, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

It's bad. Sure there are a lot of groups opposing development for the sake of opposing development, but eliminating this agency also cripples the groups who fight for legitimate reasons, for example S.O.S Vanier opposing the Salvation Army on Montreal Road.

AFAIK know city in Canada (or the world) has such an agency. Somehow other cities manage to get by.

dougvdh · #**679** Posted **Feb 24, 2019, 9:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by acottawa

AFAIK know city in Canada (or the world) has such an agency. Somehow other cities manage to get by.

Basically means that any appeal of a planning decision will be made the courts. I can't see this being either more effective or more expeditious for contentious planning files.

This is also likely to make municipal planning decisions much more at risk of being politically motivated.

Not good.

Harley613 · #**680** Posted **Feb 28, 2019, 1:25 AM**

Rendezvous Lebreton is dead. Melnyk can't claim this project competes with it any longer.

I bet shovels are in the ground in two months.