Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[airhero]

Originally Posted by Pencil

I think they forgot to put in 3 more floors on the new renderings since I can only count 21 stories. The older rendering has 24 stories. Maybe I’m just bad at counting... who knows

Although they've updated their rendering it looks as if the description is still outdated. A building permit application was submitted last week for a 21 story, 270ish unit building. So you are counting correctly.

[shakman]

I am not too thrilled about having exposed balconies.

[ajiuO]

Originally Posted by shakman

I am not too thrilled about having exposed balconies.

I’m not to thrilled about Cowboy properties being involved. The quality of their construction is really poor.

[DMTower]

It was so much more streamlined and sexy before. They totally Utah'd the design... ugh!

Originally Posted by delts145

(Artist's rendition courtesy of Cowboy Properties) Cowboy Properties and Boyer Co. are looking to build a 24-story apartment building on the east side of State Street between
the Federal Building on 100 South and the Maverik headquarters building on 200 South. The $90 million project is being praised for its prospects of bringing more residents to downtown Salt Lake City.

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[airhero]

State population estimates for 2018 are in.

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/popest/2010s-state-total.html

I love these statistics, even though I'm not enthusiastic about Utah's population growth like I was in the past. It has now surpassed Iowa in population. It is now the 30th most populated state, up from 34th at the beginning of the decade. While Utah has passed up a lot of states this decade, it may remain at its position for a while. Although it may pass Connecticut, Nevada may pass Utah, and Utah would hold it's #30 position in 2030. Utah will likely pass Puerto Rico in population before the 2020 Census.
Some rankings below.

For the year 2017-2018:

#3 in percent growth (1.9% behind Idaho and Nevada both at 2.1%).
#12 in numerical growth (57,987). Texas, as usual, is in first, followed by Florida.
#6 in natural increase. Utah's typical propensity for popping out babies puts its 32,968 natural increase behind only California, Texas, New York, Georgia, and Illinois, states with much bigger populations (at least 3 times bigger in every case).
#14 in total net migration. 25,019 people puts Utah, as usual, behind most western states, including much smaller Idaho. Florida is #1 with 308,272, which puts it far ahead of #2 Texas at 187,545.
#21 in international net migration. At 8,967 people, Utah is interestingly, despite its low ranking, only behind California, Washington, and Arizona for western states. Florida was firmly at #1 with 175,670 with California a distant second with 117,797.
#13 in domestic migration (16,052). Again Utah is behind most western states, including Idaho. And again, Florida is firmly in first, with Arizona in second.

For the decade so far 2010-2018:

#1 in percent growth, 14.4%. For 2010-2017 Utah was behind North Dakota and Texas but growth in Texas has slowed a but and in North Dakota has slowed severely the last two years (ND added fewer than 5,000 people 2017-2018).
#12 in numerical growth. 397,214 actually puts Utah ahead of Oregon but far behind Washington (811,051), Arizona (779,358), and Colorado (666,248). Texas is number 1 at 3,555,731, it has grown by more people than are currently living in Utah.
#8 in natural increase (284,783).
#15 in net migration (397,214).
#29 in international new migration (46,555).
#13 in domestic migration (66,582).

I'd be interested to know the breakdown of natural increase/net migration by county. I bet Utah County newborn babies are more than a third of those in the entire state.

[EPdesign]

Is there enough room to still build another tower At the 151 site? It looks like this building occupies 2/3rds of the street front property.

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by DMTower

It was so much more streamlined and sexy before. They totally Utah'd the design... ugh!

I respectfully disagree. I agree with FullCircle - it has a nice historic touch to it. I like the more muted blue. I wasn't thrilled about the sleek hyper-modern feel before. There also seems to be a little bit more variation in the facade, which is important with such a wide side.

Let's be honest, it's not as if the original rendering was an architectural masterpiece. Either one would be fine with me. Ultimately I would still prefer a skinnier tower with more height, it's still too wide.

[Orlando]

It looks like they just copied a typical apartment tower from Atlanta and plopped it in SLC. It's also still very fussy and unrefined. Not impressed, but want this to get built very much.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by DMTower

It was so much more streamlined and sexy before. They totally Utah'd the design... ugh!

I disagree as well. The original design looked like they took one building and tacked a completely different building onto the side of it. It was a mess. The main problem with the new design is it being shorter looks more squat. It should be 5-10 stories taller.

[taboubak]

You guys understand this is a high rise apartment tower getting built in Salt Lake City right? I don't understand the negativity. Most residential apartment towers have exposed balconies and it looks just fine. This is a great project, and great addition to downtown. Lets get it built and hope it is successful so there are many more like it built in the future. Salt Lake City desperately needs more high density urban housing like this.

[ctobsl]

[Stenar]

It may not be a great design, but it's far better looking than either of these buildings.

Originally Posted by Orlando

It looks like they just copied a typical apartment tower from Atlanta and plopped it in SLC. It's also still very fussy and unrefined. Not impressed, but want this to get built very much.

[Marvland]

Originally Posted by taboubak

You guys understand this is a high rise apartment tower getting built in Salt Lake City right? I don't understand the negativity. Most residential apartment towers have exposed balconies and it looks just fine. This is a great project, and great additional downtown. Lets get it built and hope it is successful so there are many more like it built in the future. Salt Lake City desperately needs more high density urban housing like this.

THIS. Build it all. Build it tall. Buld it stubby, build it crooked, build it straight. I'll take pretty towers, ugly towers and meh towers. I'll take purple towers, blue towers and green towers. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDINGS!

MERRY NON-DENOMINATIONAL, INCLUSIONARY HOLIDAY OF YOUR NON-SECULAR OR SECULAR CHOOSING, BUILDING NERDS!

[Pencil]

[Comrade]

Beggars can't be choosers. Salt Lake is well behind the curve on residential high-rises. I'll take 'em where I can get 'em because I know it's likely this is the only major residential high-rise to go up in the city over the next decade or so.

[RyanD]

It's like Denver's Skyhouse in terms of style. Good project and it looks like it doesn't have an obnoxious detached parking garage which is always a win!

[Orlando]

Skyhouse is actually an apartment tower that has been copied from Atlanta to a lot of cities now. The same firm, Preston Partnership, has copied this two or three times in Atlanta, and then taken it to Tampa, Orlando, and now Denver, and probably Nashville and Charlotte. But, this is exactly what I meant that it was copied from Atlanta. Smallwood Stewart, & Reynolds is an Atlanta architecture firm. There's not much in this design that says its from SLC. It's still okay, and I would like to see it get built. Regardless, the design is very unresolved. It's very messy compared to the Skyhouse designs.

This is one of the Skyhouse apartment towers in Atlanta.

[Utah_Dave]

Originally Posted by Stenar

It may not be a great design, but it's far better looking than either of these buildings.

Hmmmm. These are good examples of what the CCH might look like.

[tchild2]

Originally Posted by Marvland

THIS. Build it all. Build it tall. Buld it stubby, build it crooked, build it straight. I'll take pretty towers, ugly towers and meh towers. I'll take purple towers, blue towers and green towers. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDINGS!

MERRY NON-DENOMINATIONAL, INCLUSIONARY HOLIDAY OF YOUR NON-SECULAR OR SECULAR CHOOSING, BUILDING NERDS!

Nailed it. Salt Lake City will become a more "liveable" and dynamic city once you change the model of suburbanites driving to downtown for work then driving home again at 5:00 PM, into the density of people living downtown and in urban areas. This is the start.

[DMTower]

Originally Posted by taboubak

You guys understand this is a high rise apartment tower getting built in Salt Lake City right? I don't understand the negativity. Most residential apartment towers have exposed balconies and it looks just fine. This is a great project, and great addition to downtown. Lets get it built and hope it is successful so there are many more like it built in the future. Salt Lake City desperately needs more high density urban housing like this.

I never said they shouldn't build it. The density will definitely help. It's just so typical of Salt Lake/Utah developers to go with a safe and conservative looking design.