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[Gonzo the Great]

Originally Posted by City Wide

Maybe the next pro sports stadium will once again be suggested for 30th ST. during the next round of stadium building happens----whenever that is.

At this point , that idea ain't a bad one ..... So how 'bout a brand new spanking clean domed 45,000 seat park for the Philadelphia ,
Kansas City , Oakland , back to Philadelphia Athletics ..... Just joking but past experiences prove the city could do a lot worse ....

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by City Wide

Maybe the next pro sports stadium will once again be suggested for 30th ST. during the next round of stadium building happens----whenever that is.

The Phillies proposed that for their new stadium, and it almost went there, before losing out to the south philly stadium district.
http://www.geocities.ws/Colosseum/Lodge/1534/phibpk.htm

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by Gonzo the Great

At this point , that idea ain't a bad one ..... So how 'bout a brand new spanking clean domed 45,000 seat park for the Philadelphia ,
Kansas City , Oakland , back to Philadelphia Athletics ..... Just joking but past experiences prove the city could do a lot worse ....

dome? no. but I'd be on board with bringing the A's back. the Phillies could use the competition.
but if we're doing that, build their ballpark in NE Philly, near the NE airport. then build the Roosevelt blvd subway with a station at the ballpark (and throw in a 25000 seat soccer stadium, for good measure.)
and my daughter would also like a unicorn that sneezes rainbows while we're at it.

[Gonzo the Great]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

dome? no. but I'd be on board with bringing the A's back. the Phillies could use the competition.
but if we're doing that, build their ballpark in NE Philly, near the NE airport. then build the Roosevelt blvd subway with a station at the ballpark (and throw in a 25000 seat soccer stadium, for good measure.)
and my daughter would also like a unicorn that sneezes rainbows while we're at it.

The unicorn sneezing rainbows has been put on hold .... city council said there was a problem with the Pennsylvania raising commission

[Urbanthusiat]

While we're sharing pipe dream stadium fantasies I always thought the Phillies should put their next stadium on top of the PECO substation behind the zoo, while Septa could add a stop at the 34th street bridge and cap the area leading up to the stadium. Imagine the views from the broadcast booth looking out towards the city and our rising Schuylkill Yards and 30th Street station district skyscrapers and the art museum in this orientation! While obviously I'm sure it would be an engineering nightmare, it would be really cool nonetheless. It'd alleviate Phillies game traffic by making it accessible via regional rail, which would really help with attendance from the Phillies target demographic - suburban families. I can imagine the Phillies partnering with Septa where a gameday ticket gets you a free ride to the stadium, and SEPTA runs additional nightime regional rail trains after the game. Also could partner with the zoo and encourage people to take their kids to the zoo before or after the weekend day games. You could revitalize the parkside area and really play up the Victorian nature of the area, with baseball, the zoo, the 1876 centinnial stuff over there.... Only problem is that it'd bee more difficult for people in South Jersey to get there. Would be amazing, but it'll never happen.

[Nova08]

Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

It'd alleviate Phillies game traffic by making it accessible via regional rail, which would really help with attendance from the Phillies target demographic - suburban families.

The Phillies winning some games would help attendance. It wasn't that long ago that every game was sold out with 40,000+ people.

Sports traffic is largely isolated to a small portion of south philly. Bringing any stadium closer to center city will also bring the traffic closer to center city. Only so many people consider Septa an option.

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

While we're sharing pipe dream stadium fantasies I always thought the Phillies should put their next stadium on top of the PECO substation behind the zoo, while Septa could add a stop at the 34th street bridge and cap the area leading up to the stadium. Imagine the views from the broadcast booth looking out towards the city and our rising Schuylkill Yards and 30th Street station district skyscrapers and the art museum in this orientation! While obviously I'm sure it would be an engineering nightmare, it would be really cool nonetheless. It'd alleviate Phillies game traffic by making it accessible via regional rail, which would really help with attendance from the Phillies target demographic - suburban families. I can imagine the Phillies partnering with Septa where a gameday ticket gets you a free ride to the stadium, and SEPTA runs additional nightime regional rail trains after the game. Also could partner with the zoo and encourage people to take their kids to the zoo before or after the weekend day games. You could revitalize the parkside area and really play up the Victorian nature of the area, with baseball, the zoo, the 1876 centinnial stuff over there.... Only problem is that it'd bee more difficult for people in South Jersey to get there. Would be amazing, but it'll never happen.

That sounds more like a doomsday scenario for SEPTA RRD, considering their track record for handling large events.

[mcgrath618]

Not only would that be an engineering nightmare, you would have not one but four railroads to deal with. SEPTA, NJT, Amtrak, and CSX all have trackage there. You would need to get every single company to approve the project which is probably what would hinder this more than engineering (though designing this would be a nightmare. People do drive, so where would they park? Where would the SEPTA station go?)

I've always thought that the North Broad Station area would be good for a stadium of some kind.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I've always thought that the North Broad Station area would be good for a stadium of some kind.

The Phillies played there for 50 years, at Baker Bowl, before moving to Shibe Park / Connie Mack Stadium.
https://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/ballparks/baker-bowl/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Broad_station
just reading the first article, there were a few minor corrections to be made: first, it says that the Phillies moved after the 1938 season, but in reality they moved there on July 4, 1938, right in the middle of the season. Second Shibe Park wasn't "on the other side of Philadelphia", it was 6 blocks away. They were within sight of each other.

[Mr Saturn64]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

The Phillies played there for 50 years, at Baker Bowl, before moving to Shibe Park / Connie Mack Stadium.
https://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/ballparks/baker-bowl/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Broad_station
just reading the first article, there were a few minor corrections to be made: first, it says that the Phillies moved after the 1938 season, but in reality they moved there on July 4, 1938, right in the middle of the season. Second Shibe Park wasn't "on the other side of Philadelphia", it was 6 blocks away. They
were within sight of each other.

Connie Mack Stadium is one of those things I wish I could've seen in my lifetime. My grandfather saw Babe Ruth face the Philadelphia A's there back in the day, and my Aunt got autographs from Jackie Robinson and Connie Mack outside the stadium. I wish I could go back in the time for a day and see the A's play there.

Originally Posted by Gonzo the Great

At this point , that idea ain't a bad one ..... So how 'bout a brand new spanking clean domed 45,000 seat park for the Philadelphia ,
Kansas City , Oakland , back to Philadelphia Athletics ..... Just joking but past experiences prove the city could do a lot worse ....

Eh, domes are way out of style. The Rays are the only MLB team left with a dome, and they're looking to replace it. Retractable roofs, on the other hand, are a different story. I personally don't think we need one here in Philly, but my Uncle always thought that the Bank should've had one.

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I, for one, wish the Phillies had built at Broad and Spring Garden. You can see renderings in the Philly.com article below, but I think that would've been the best option. It would've been nice to have the Inquirer Building as a centerpiece of sorts, and to have those sort of colonial-esque buildings in left-center and right field would've been nice additions. And plus, the views of the city from there look great. Now all you need to do is take the Liberty Bell that the Bank has and put in in right-center there and you've got yourself quite the ballpark.

http://www2.philly.com/philly/blogs/real...s-ballpark-was-built-in-Center-City.html

[Knight Hospitaller]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

my daughter would also like a unicorn that sneezes rainbows while we're at it.

Be realistic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=YbYWhdLO43Q

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64

Eh, domes are way out of style. The Rays are the only MLB team left with a dome, and they're looking to replace it. Retractable roofs, on the other hand, are a different story. I personally don't think we need one here in Philly, but my Uncle always thought that the Bank should've had one.

Pittsburgh's now-demolished Civic Arena said, why not both.

Civic Arena’s stainless-steel domed roof, designed by local architects James Mitchell and Dahlen Ritchey, had eight panels. To open the roof, most of the panels rotated to one side behind one section that acted as a “cantilevered arm” holding them in place, Sacco said.

Hold on, Vegas: Pittsburgh arena first with retractable roof | Sports Business Journal

It was quite an experience when the dome opened. I particularly remember a Pink Floyd concert in the early 70s, feeling a rush of fresh air just at the moment they began singing "Breathe," and then seeing the slow reveal of the nighttime city skyline over the course of about 5 minutes.

[Mappy]

Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

.... Only problem is that it'd bee more difficult for people in South Jersey to get there. Would be amazing, but it'll never happen.

No Problem. We will have options by then.
(1) We could use the commuter section of the NJT AC-Line NJT that stops at Woodcrest, Cherry Hill, Merchantville, and DelAir junction which would have its own stop at the Zoo.
(2) We could take PATCO, with its new extension to 30th St Station, and get on the City line, AC-Line, or any other Regional rail heading north to stop at the Zoo.
(3) Take PATCO to Franklin Square and transfer to the City Line there.

[Mr Saturn64]

Here's the park.

[Jayfar]

Amtrak shortlists development teams for 30th St. Station revamp | Philly.com

Philadelphia-based Brandywine Realty Trust and Meridiam of France are among the developers on Amtrak's short list to oversee the redevelopment of historic 30th Street Station, the rail operator's third-busiest station.

Amtrak named teams led by the companies in a statement Tuesday as finalists in its search for a master developer to update the station in what's seen as a first step toward revamping its vast University City land holdings.

The Brandywine team also includes Pelli Clarke Pelli Architects and commercial real estate firm CBRE. Brandywine has already built extensively in the area, with projects including the Pelli Clarke Pelli-designed Cira Centre building and FMC Tower, and is leading the so-called Schuylkill Yards redevelopment project on nearby land.

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[RowanGrad]

Anyone know when this park is gonna open? It doesn't look like much progress has been made.

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by RowanGrad

Anyone know when this park is gonna open? It doesn't look like much progress has been made.

I used to walk by it every day when going to math class. It's made steady progress. Still, it has gone very slow.

[mcgrath618]

Drove by today. Lots of pouring has been done since I've last seen it in December. All of the materials have arrived, and are currently sitting next to the Bulletin Building on the north side. There are crates full of stones and other building materials which assumedly will be put into place as soon as initial pouring is complete.
In other news, there was a quick mention in this article today:
https://urbanland.uli.org/development-business/driving-office-redevelopment-in-the-northeast/
Basically more talk of the first phase of development. Not much new info, but glad to hear there are still Redwood trees planned to go here.

[mcgrath618]

First section is finished pouring. I don't know what purpose this will serve in the grand scheme of things, but I do know that it is brand new.

[RowanGrad]

Based off this rendering, it looks like that is the tree podium at the top left corner of the park.