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Originally Posted by kmcamp
The bump i understand, but why couldn't they line up the painted crosswalk with the actual dip in the curb, that's just plain sloppy. It's like at least a foot off centre.
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I believe that crosswalk has been there since there was just a temporary pathway to the station along the hidden under scaffolding. It likely lined up at the time of painting, then the barricades were removed, concrete pad poured and the interlock added, and it looks a little off.
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Originally Posted by Richard Eade
So, Catenary, you are saying that it was RTG who painted the lines on the roadway? If so, then I was wrong to use that photo as an example of the City’s disregard in coordinating with what others have done. If it was, as I suspect, the City which painted the lines, then it is good example.
As kmcamp mentioned, it is not the lack of the final lift of asphalt that I was referring to. I think that most people on this forum are familiar enough with what is being built to know that the road surface will eventually be (fairly) flush with the curb-cut. That is, as you point out, RTG’s responsibility. So far, from what I have seen, RTG is doing a reasonable job of making things like that work out.
What I was pointing out was the disregard for where the curb-cut and (temporary) ramp were when the pavement markings were painted. Now, it is possible that RTG put the curb-cut in the wrong place and the lines were laid-out correctly, but I would suggest that, at this point, even if that were the case, the painting should have been laid down to properly blend with the hardscape.
As it is, I think that it could be a safety issue. Given that buses generally, from my experience, stop with their nose extending well over the Stop Bar, it is likely that people could be crowed over to the side of the crosswalk. The drop at the edge of the marked crosswalk certainly exceeds the maximum allowable elevation change (i.e., it is a trip hazard). |
I witnessed contractors line painting at Hurdman the night before the new bus stops opened. Since the final lift of asphalt has yet to be laid down, I would imagine that the line painting remains their responsibility.
There are lots of crosswalks that are wider than their associated curb cuts on one or both sides. I fail to see how some painted lines on the ground create a tripping hazard.
This certainly isn't perfect, but for a temporary condition, it isn't horrible. I'd be more concerned about the slope of the temporary asphalt ramp then anything else.
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Originally Posted by dougvdh
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I don't see an issue with either of these situations. In the first, the MUP doesn't align with the crosswalk, but you aren't allowed to ride in a crosswalk anyways. If you dismount and walk as you are supposed to, you have a direct path from the MUP to the other side. Cycling crossrides are a very new concept in Ontario, and this intersection was rebuilt before they came into practice.
In the second, there's a barrel in the crosswalk, and that's not great, but it's not permanent and could be there for any number of reasons. The transition from MUP to on-road bike lane is a bit of a mess, but the city has shown an enormous willingness to improve on this in their most recent design guidelines, especially taking advantage of new provincial standards for cycling facilities.
In both situations, the pedestrian facility seems just fine: the crosswalk lines up with a wide, smooth curb depression, and in the second the pedestrian signal request button is well aligned with the crosswalk.
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